Gottrich Northeim Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 (edited) Congrats to RoK on your decision. also: [quote name='pezstar' timestamp='1299776283' post='2658596'] Blaming Xiphosis in 5.... [/quote] lol Edited March 10, 2011 by Gottrich Northeim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurion Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 (edited) There's a lot of things that could be said, but... I think I'll just add my voice to those of my colleagues and say it would have been nice to avoid the spin. Good luck, Rok. Edited March 10, 2011 by Aurion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChairmanHal Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 [quote name='AirMe' timestamp='1299781748' post='2658759'] To be fair, GOD is running around telling people who they can and can't sign with. I remember MK applauding GOONS when they distanced themselves from GOD. [/quote] It's what GOD does. As I pointed out in the past, Rok was pressured constantly to drop TPF as an ally prior Karma. I saw this coming. I thought perhaps another member or two might leave and the bloc dissolve. That may still happen. One thing is for sure though, good move, Kait. I wish Rok all the best for the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xiao Weng Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 Happy trails, RoK! We should do lunch sometime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KainIIIC Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 This is both surprising to see this come about, yet not surprising at all, given previous disagreements in the past and strange occurances of this war. Best of luck to all of those involved, except of course for the obligatory Xiphosis . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illustrious Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 Good luck Rok! I remember being during my time there that Superfriends was the greatest thing to everyone. o/ Rok! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoADarthCyfe6 Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 (edited) No surprise here, I knew this was going to happen after the PB - NpO war. It was quite clear through the discontent of RoK members and the way that SF were moving already with certain alliances. I must say that this is an excellent move by Rok as SF is no longer the Super Friends. I applaud RoK for severing ties with one of the main contributors to the treaty web tangle. Best of luck in the future RoK, I know you will not disappoint. Edited March 10, 2011 by SoADarthCyfe6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Curzon Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 Wow, good luck Rok in where ever you head to next. GL to SF too, perhaps you can avoid outright implosion after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurunin Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 i have to say...everytime i think of SF, Rok is the firs that comes to mind...i never would've guessed this would have happened... however, after your bloc mates flat out refused to help your decision to go to war i'm not surprised....especially if at least one of them was pressuring you to drop a treaty... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groucho Marx Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 I can't say this surprised me but I am surprised that it took as long as it did. I wish all the best to Ragnarok and I hope this works towards your best interests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardus Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 (edited) [quote name='AirMe' timestamp='1299782334' post='2658771'] So you wanted GOONS to drop you because you signed with TOP so they could appease GOD? [/quote] What? We, the Kingdom, didn't want anything. GOD wanted GOONS to stop MK from signing with TOP. When that did not happen, GOD canceled on GOONS. But this is not particularly relevant to this thread. If you'd like I'd be happy to continue the conversation via PM or IRC. Edited March 10, 2011 by Ardus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Stupid Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 [quote name='Goose' timestamp='1299782312' post='2658770'] If you view it as us dictating what treaties you can sign when we're upset when you time and again place outside treaties over the best interest of the bloc, I fear the problem lies with RoK, not SF. [/quote] Defending Polar once is time and time again. Math checks out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirMe Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 [quote name='Ardus' timestamp='1299783999' post='2658803'] What? We, the Kingdom, didn't want anything. GOD wanted GOONS to stop MK from signing with TOP. When that did not happen, GOD canceled on GOONS. But this is not particularly relevant to this thread. If you'd like I'd be happy to continue the conversation via PM or IRC. [/quote] I was just trying to make you wiggle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordBucks Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 [quote name='Lurunin' timestamp='1299783796' post='2658800'] however, after your bloc mates flat out refused to help your decision to go to war i'm not surprised....especially if at least one of them was pressuring you to drop a treaty... [/quote] Oh? Seems like we have spy who thinks he knows what went down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereno Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 Somehow, I think there's a bit more to this other than noble Ragnarok being shunned and bullied by their Super Friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardus Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 [quote name='AirMe' timestamp='1299784088' post='2658806'] I was just trying to make you wiggle. [/quote] When the Third EndWar descends upon us, yours will be a long and painful death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chefjoe Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 And so the next chapter begins... Better off not in SF RoK, truly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goose Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 [quote name='Joe Stupid' timestamp='1299784083' post='2658805'] Defending Polar once is time and time again. Math checks out. [/quote] There have been other instances. If you want more details, please find me on IRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theophilos Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 Good luck Rok and Bon courage Kait! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 [quote name='Bob Janova' timestamp='1299782928' post='2658780'] Enjoy yourself in the Polar sphere, you've obviously wanted to be there for quite some time. [/quote] After watching recent events unfold, I really don't see how you could come to the conclusion that Ragnarok did what they did because of spheres. The way I see it, they're on this path precisely because, for better or worse, they don't view the world in the same narrow-minded, spherical manner that you do. Step outside of your polar coordinate system for a moment my friend and heed my words: Planet Bob is a torus! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred von Tirpitz Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 (edited) Civility and respect people. You have been friends for far too long to throw it all out the window. The paper may be gone, but you are still the same people. So goddamnit act like it. Edited March 10, 2011 by Alfred von Tirpitz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChairmanHal Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Goose' timestamp='1299782312' post='2658770'] If you view it as us dictating what treaties you can sign when we're upset when you time and again place outside treaties over the best interest of the bloc, I fear the problem lies with RoK, not SF. [/quote] And yet...we were supposed to believe that the other members of SF were totally fine with Rok standing by its convictions, that Rok was fine other members of SF being on the other side of this war, and that at the end of it you would all stand around in a circle and sing camp songs together. Please. Rok was told to get in line or else there would be a vote to kick them out of the bloc and I'm certain you and Xiph were lining up the votes to get it done. They took a walk instead, end of story. [quote name='Alfred von Tirpitz' timestamp='1299785213' post='2658827'] Civility and respect people. You have been friends for far too long to throw it all out the window. The paper may be gone, but you are still the same people. So goddamnit act like it. [/quote] It never works that way you know. Edited March 10, 2011 by ChairmanHal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz Girard Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 [quote name='Alfred von Tirpitz' timestamp='1299785213' post='2658827'] Civility and respect people. You have been friends for far too long to throw it all out the window. The paper may be gone, but you are still the same people. So goddamnit act like it. [/quote] 100% Agreement here. We're still the same people. Same friends. The paper just isnt there anymore (CSN aside). Different FA paths do not spell out destruction of friendships. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schattenmann Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 Good luck, RoK, not really much else to do given their abandonment and plotting. [quote name='Van Hoo III' timestamp='1299776722' post='2658616'] CSN. Unless they canceled that too ... [/quote] Xiphosis cancelled CSN's RoK treaty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz Girard Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 [quote name='ChairmanHal' timestamp='1299785313' post='2658829'] And yet...we were supposed to believe that the other members of SF were totally fine with Rok standing by its convictions, that Rok was fine other members of SF being on the other side of this war, and that at the end of it you would all stand around in a circle and sing camp songs together. Please. Rok was told to get in line or else there would be a vote to kick them out of the bloc and I'm certain you and Xiph were lining up the votes to get it done. They took a walk instead, end of story. [/quote] Goose has been on vacation sipping Tequila. So you're talking out of your ass here buddy. RoK was not told to get in line. SF laid out our FA plans and feelings, RoK laid out theirs. The two didn't match. A compromise could not be reached. NO ONE WAS TOLD BY ANYONE TO DROP TREATIES. Friends parted ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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