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  3. Thrash

    A Farewell to Arms

    Aww, cmo'n NG, you couldn't have gave us at least one more love tap on your way out? But seriously, good luck guys, you definitely made a name for yourselves.
  4. Rush Sykes

    A Farewell to Arms

    Seriously my old friends... I love you guys. Godspeed.
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  6. The Zigur

    Notice to the New Pacific Order

    The whole point of a written peace agreement is that both sides can be held to it in the context of public opinion. *If SPATR violated it, there would be near universal support for NPO (since NPO is the more powerful party). *If NPO violated it, NPO's reputation would be harmed, and other alliances, including allies, would find her untrustworthy. NPO, however, finds continued permawar to be useful in a machiavellian sense, because it reduces the development potential of new nations, forcing them to sell tech longer. NPO also finds it useful in an Orwellian sense because it unifies the membership against a common enemy. Finally, it strikes fear into others who might consider standing up to NPO down the road (thus the necessity of PZIing dissidents like myself). This is why no reasonable peace agreement has been presented, that doesn't allow for future attacks from NPO or her proxies. It's rather transparent for anyone with half a brain.
  7. bart416

    Notice to the New Pacific Order

    So basically you're saying "we don't trust what you write down, so could you write down what you already wrote and add a line that you won't attack us again."? Wouldn't that be a rather flawed tactic from both ends, from ours since we could actually just keep them at war and not offer peace like we did without raising a word about it? While if we did it your way we'd open ourselves up to a whole lot of drama. It just doesn't make much sense if our original intention is to keep fighting SPATR. And it'd also be flawed from SPATR's, since if they don't trust us, adding that line won't make a difference. It's still just words according to you. Now I'm quite certain, that *if* SPATR was actually interested in peace, they'd be talking to Lord of Darkness and not through you over here. So it'd be brilliant if you would stop making up these dream scenarios. And that Junka, is where you're mistaken. Our goal is not to reduce your infrastructure to zero, in fact we very much like that Nashorn sends you money and you buy infrastructure with it. Our goal is to prevent you from joining another small alliance and starting the drama all over again. Additionally, your attempts at analysing our behaviour do amuse me in a particular way, and I'm certain DeathAdder and many others think about this in the same manner. It's most definitely a new one! "We don't want peace with absolutely zero terms on both sides, but please give us a protectorate!" The interesting bit is that we're impossible to trust according to Junka, so a protectorate from us would be meaningless by that logic.
  8. The Zigur

    Notice to the New Pacific Order

    I mean, if NPO legitimately wants peace, then there is nothing to lose from such an arrangement. Obviously there would be a cause that aggressive actions from SPATR would nullify the agreement. But the truth is that NPO's leadership doesnt want peace, and finds SPATR a useful enemy for two reasons: *It knocks down tech producers before they can become buyers. *It provides NPO with an Orwellian-style enemy to keep people focused. Of course, the key is convincing people that NPO actually wants peace, when it doesnt.
  9. Neo Uruk

    Notice to the New Pacific Order

    that's a really weird way to ask for a protectorate
  10. The Zigur

    Notice to the New Pacific Order

    Until a written agreement is presented to SPATR offering concrete protection from further warfare by NPO or her proxies, the talk of peace by NPO is just so much hot air designed to convince members and others that SPATR is at fault for the continuing fighting. But, at least we are getting somewhere here with NPO admitting the re-establishment of PZI policy, and the intent of forcing nations like myself to quit this world or remain permanenty besieged. We have come full circle to the Moo hegemony of 2008. The only question is, how many are willing to resist it, openly or in secret?
  11. Dre4mwe4ver

    Happy Friday the 13th

    I like seeing Walsh post
  12. bart416

    Notice to the New Pacific Order

    Since there's a large logic gap in your entire post I'll try to fill in the blanks and response based on that: a) How are they going to rebuild if they're at war? b) Which mercenaries are you talking about? c) We fight our own wars, if they have trouble with someone else they should talk with them about that. We keep our word. Peace is peace, war is war. You claimed that an IO was on a personal rampage, even though these actions were approved by the rest of the alliance's command chain. You tried to intentionally spread disinformation. You pretty much managed to convince the rest of the alliance it was necessary to put you on PZI. You really didn't help your case with those actions.
  13. The Zigur

    Notice to the New Pacific Order

    I have spoken with SPATR leadership and they have confirmed that while NPO has publicly offered peace, they refuse to address concerns such as long-term peace while rebuilding, or attacks from barbarian mercenaries. The only reason this could be the case is that NPO plans attacks by themselves and/or their proxies after peace is achieved. As to messaging your members, it was not a stunt, but a warning that Deathadder was gambling with the welfare of NPO members by publicly target listing me. You can claim that is grounds for PZI, but Deathadder had already stated I would be PZI'd so that is disingenuous.
  14. bart416

    Notice to the New Pacific Order

    I prefer Leibniz notation. I recommend self-administered lobotomies before reading my threat. In other news, the nation of Ravenholm recently started selling lobotomy kits to foreigners. Ignore the "ice pick" label on the packaging that was crossed out please! We're honestly not putting in too much effort. And it's SPATR who decided to continue it for this long, if they want peace they should talk to Lord of Darkness, JesseEnd or DeathAdder. Please stop telling lies, SPATR is continuing this because they want to. You on the other hand, well you don't have much of a choice after that messaging stunt you pulled...
  15. Centurius

    Paradox No More

    Love you too, snowflake
  16. The Zigur

    Notice to the New Pacific Order

    That's literally not what happened lol, unless offering tech deals to a bunch of warring barbarians is somehow oppression. As to being careful, NPO has clearly stated that there will be no peace for myself or SPATR. Where in times past adversaries could settle disputes in a civilized manner and gaurantee the safety of the other party, NPO will send their affiliated barbarians to do their dirty work.
  17. Wemedge

    A Farewell to Arms

    There are no better group of a-holes I would rather have on the sinking ship with me than my comrades at NG. And Methrage sucks balls.
  18. MaineGOP

    Notice to the New Pacific Order

    That would mean I actually actively play CN anymore and that I don't just watch this thread to laugh at his stupidness. Meh, need something to get me through the monotony of work.
  19. Stonewall14

    Santa CLAWS is Coming to Town

    o/ Pacifica o/ CLAWS
  20. MaineGOP

    Notice to the New Pacific Order

    He has no ideology, only that which further his own goals. When he is on top he will oppress and subjugate when on bottom he will scream repression and hegemony. It is pitifully obvious to those who have watched him for a decade. I just feel bad for the people who don't follow the game closely and might get fooled by his shenanigans.
  21. Lucius Optimus

    Notice to the New Pacific Order

    You left Polar to make your own mark on the world and you did so by oppressing alliances smaller than yours don't act like you are some kind of angel. Careful Ziggy. Those are the words of anarchists and LPCN scum. The only end of a Libertarian regime on Bob we can be sure of is death....
  22. Lucius Optimus

    Santa CLAWS is Coming to Town

    Knew it was coming. Good post and nice CLAWS o7
  23. DeathAdder

    Notice to the New Pacific Order

    Pretty sure you would've been quickly thrown out on your ass with their current .gov.
  24. The Zigur

    Notice to the New Pacific Order

    If I only cared about myself, I would have remained to enjoy a cushy lifestyle in Polar. Instead, I always seek to confront the forces of evil and aggression, regardless of the numerical superiority of the enemies arranged against us. This is why I respect SPATR, they refuse to die despite the efforts of an entire hegemony. This is the center of the revolution... a stubborn guerrilla resistance against the relentless fascism of NPO.
  25. Banned

    Santa CLAWS is Coming to Town

    This is good to see. o/ Pacifica o/ CLAWS
  26. AlmightyGrub

    Paradox No More

    During my time TOP were my second greatest enemy and we were never ever friends, I wish the wheel had kept on turning, they were at least passionate. You are right though, for a couple of years they were central to the cycle of Bob. It has however been a very long time since that was true.
  27. AlmightyGrub

    Notice to the New Pacific Order

    Except you aren't a political dissident, you are a tool who rambles. To the untrained eye there might not appear to be a great deal of difference, but you stand for nothing except yourself.
  28. The Zigur

    Notice to the New Pacific Order

    Going to point out that this thread wouldn't be necessary if NPO wasn't persecuting political dissidents.
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