supercoolyellow Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 [quote name='flak attack' timestamp='1306704616' post='2720223'] During that time, NPO fought more wars that I would consider medium or larger than MK has fought in our entire history. [/quote] This really has more to do with the period between wars since WOTC, than the character of alliances. You and I would both agree that MK is very militant and aggressive alliance, nothing really wrong with that, but its who you guys are. Perhaps if steps were taken however, such as lower reps, and in this instance not drawing wars out forever, we could have them more often. Although, I really think VE made a lot of headway in keep there theater to a rather good amount of time, and make reps reasonable. Unfortunately your alliance's decisions will mean that it should be many months till the next rodeo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Ilyani Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 [quote name='supercoolyellow' timestamp='1306726436' post='2720407'] This really has more to do with the period between wars since WOTC, than the character of alliances. You and I would both agree that MK is very militant and aggressive alliance, nothing really wrong with that, but its who you guys are. Perhaps if steps were taken however, such as lower reps, and in this instance not drawing wars out forever, we could have them more often. Although, I really think VE made a lot of headway in keep there theater to a rather good amount of time, and make reps reasonable. Unfortunately your alliance's decisions will mean that it should be many months till the next rodeo. [/quote] No offense, but I always find it hard to stomach ex-Hegemony alliances complaining about crippling reps or power-mongering behavior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroofTime55 Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 [quote name='Bob Ilyani' timestamp='1306726758' post='2720409'] No offense, but I always find it hard to stomach ex-Hegemony alliances complaining about crippling reps or power-mongering behavior. [/quote] Why provide a counter argument when you can just bring up ancient history? And FYI, the Old Hegemony never charged the ridiculous sums we see under the New Hegemony. Just sayin'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercoolyellow Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Bob Ilyani' timestamp='1306726758' post='2720409'] No offense, but I always find it hard to stomach ex-Hegemony alliances complaining about crippling reps or power-mongering behavior. [/quote] Well here's the thing, my nation wasn't around for any of that. I did have a different nation for a few months during wotc, but I was an inconsequential nooby, in an inconsequential alliance (pyramid.) Some say I still am In MCXA that same circumstance of not being around when were in power, is true for a good majority of our members. All that is besides the point. If reps my alliance demanded were wrong, and they very well could be, I don't endorse every decision MCXA made in its past, then the same decisions are wrong still today. Edited May 30, 2011 by supercoolyellow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owned-You Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 All Hail the reestablishment of tech deals and purchase cycles! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Ilyani Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 [quote name='HeroofTime55' timestamp='1306727025' post='2720411'] Why provide a counter argument when you can just bring up ancient history? And FYI, the Old Hegemony never charged the ridiculous sums we see under the New Hegemony. Just sayin'. [/quote] Tech deals! Such ridiculous sums! Oh the humanity! /me faints Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Ilyani Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 [quote name='supercoolyellow' timestamp='1306727070' post='2720412'] Well here's the thing, my nation wasn't around for any of that. I did have a different nation for a few months during wotc, but I was an inconsequential nooby, in an inconsequential alliance (pyramid.) Some say I still am In MCXA that same circumstance of not being around when were in power, is true for a good majority of our members. All that is besides the point. If reps my alliance demanded were wrong, and they very well could be, I don't endorse every decision MCXA made in its past, then the same decisions are wrong still today. [/quote] Fair enough. That being said, there are plenty of others who aren't exceptions to the rule like you are. *cough*HoT*cough* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan King Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 The next time you two miscreants decide to wave your sticks at each other, be dolls and don't drag the rest of us into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Stuart Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Heh..did anyone else predict this thread descending into an argument about what A did to B years ago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Bromeini Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 ...This was still going on? lolwut Well, good luck on rebuilding to all involved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varianz Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 [quote name='Charles Stuart' timestamp='1306729782' post='2720434'] Heh..did anyone else predict this thread descending into an argument about what A did to B years ago? [/quote] Happens every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
President S O Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Congratulations, New Pacific Order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrotskysRevenge Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 [quote name='Letum' timestamp='1306706794' post='2720242'] On the contrary, I fully expect the future between NPO and MK to be brighter than the sun itself. [/quote] Especially with Cager and I as diplomats. [size="1"]Edited by Sharon, nurse[/size] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorConcept Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Reloading time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroofTime55 Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 [quote name='Bob Ilyani' timestamp='1306727822' post='2720422'] Fair enough. That being said, there are plenty of others who aren't exceptions to the rule like you are. *cough*HoT*cough* [/quote] Oh right, I forgot that 64Digits was at the center of the Old Hegemony. PS: The two parties we took trivial reparation sums from in that era, I have personally apologized to. And I'm going to repay what we took from STA with interest, as soon as we're done rebuilding (the other party no longer exists). We've since took a stance that we will never demand reps in those sorts of conflicts again, not when we're each just defending allies. Oh, and I've always stood against EZI even at the height of the Old Hegemony, even when that deplorable option was available to me. So, uh, NO U. Also love how "Ex Heg" is never applied to those who jumped ship in the final hours, only to those who stuck with it and paid for everyone's crimes. And then paid again and again, often suffering under the blade of the worst offenders who are now magically absolved of their past sins. And I further love the attempts to now label the massive extortion as some sort of "tech deals." Really? Where are the tech deals again? Usually that involves a two-way exchange of some sort, not us just emptying our wallets into Doomhut's bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 [quote name='WarriorConcept' timestamp='1306732613' post='2720445'] Reloading time. [/quote] Considering what this war started over (NPO not walking into the trap voluntarily when NpO was attacked), reloading in case it happens again isn't a bad idea. It will be interesting to which side breaks the peace first next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crymson Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 [quote name='HeroofTime55' timestamp='1306732655' post='2720446'] Oh right, I forgot that 64Digits was at the center of the Old Hegemony. PS: The two parties we took trivial reparation sums from in that era, I have personally apologized to. And I'm going to repay what we took from STA with interest, as soon as we're done rebuilding (the other party no longer exists). We've since took a stance that we will never demand reps in those sorts of conflicts again, not when we're each just defending allies. Oh, and I've always stood against EZI even at the height of the Old Hegemony, even when that deplorable option was available to me. So, uh, NO U. Also love how "Ex Heg" is never applied to those who jumped ship in the final hours, only to those who stuck with it and paid for everyone's crimes. And then paid again and again, often suffering under the blade of the worst offenders who are now magically absolved of their past sins. And I further love the attempts to now label the massive extortion as some sort of "tech deals." Really? Where are the tech deals again? Usually that involves a two-way exchange of some sort, not us just emptying our wallets into Doomhut's bowl. [/quote] Another county heard from... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernesto Che Guevara Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Glad to see this one over. The parties involved in this announcement all fought very well. I guess it's time for us to roll GOONS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cataduanes Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 [quote name='Ashoka the Great' timestamp='1306714250' post='2720301'] Anyone started a pool on the date on which the Embassies will be closed again? [/quote]Yeah I am game, who is taking book? [quote name='Charles Stuart' timestamp='1306729782' post='2720434'] Heh..did anyone else predict this thread descending into an argument about what A did to B years ago? [/quote] Sadly it was inevitable...the [i]new kids[/i] on the block have to paint the old crew in a certain light and so forth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tygaland Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 [quote name='D34th' timestamp='1306703926' post='2720221'] Poor Potato, nuking him isn't fair. [img]http://polarorder.net/forum/Smileys/default/sob.gif[/img] [/quote] I'd just like to thank williambonney for the laugh. Really, seeing potato crying about getting nuked on the last day of a war his alliance not only started without reason but demanded last 3-4 weeks longer after peace was agreed is absolutely hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Velox Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 [quote name='Tygaland' timestamp='1306739380' post='2720474'] I'd just like to thank williambonney for the laugh. Really, seeing potato crying about getting nuked on the last day of a war his alliance not only started without reason but demanded last 3-4 weeks longer after peace was agreed is absolutely hilarious. [/quote] It will never end if you keep this up you know. I wish i had that Hopeless Coalition - Pandora's Box thread flowchart thingy to illustrate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banksy Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 I think this thread, in length, posters and content is the epitome of the current state of the planet. Good night, and good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalasin Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 [quote name='Banksy' timestamp='1306743405' post='2720492'] I think this thread, in length, posters and content is the epitome of the current state of the planet. Good night, and good luck. [/quote] Are you leaving? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alterego Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 [quote name='Bob Ilyani' timestamp='1306711696' post='2720279'] My god, you really will make an argument out of anything. I swear, you and Alterego are like the crazy conspiracy theorists of CN. Just chill for a sec, eh? Maybe it's possible that not everything MK does is some sort of inane grasp for power? [/quote] They said NPO can never be allowed to rebuild and regain power or attempt to rebuild and regain power. MK said that, their government said that, Archon said that. Its not a crazy theory they made that statement at the outset of the war. They also said they can attack anyone at any time without the need for a CB and their motto is everything must die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Blair Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 [quote name='Alterego' timestamp='1306747558' post='2720500'] They said NPO can never be allowed to rebuild and regain power or attempt to rebuild and regain power. MK said that, their government said that, Archon said that. Its not a crazy theory they made that statement at the outset of the war. They also said they can attack anyone at any time without the need for a CB and their motto is everything must die. [/quote] I am pleased to see the level of fear we have shot into your heart. Now if only we could turn that fear up so high that you would be silenced by it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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