Thrash Posted January 22, 2021 Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 54 minutes ago, janax said: Also, we hold not treaties, public or private, with DBDC. Not on paper, but in spirit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liltrekkie Posted January 22, 2021 Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 4 hours ago, Stewie said: Johnny and I have been saying that ourselves. Twice in recent memory Non Grata has faced a declaration of several times our nation count. Personally I'm flattered that they think we have that level of firepower. Interesting take, as someone who has done the same thing to others in the past. Pot, meet kettle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted January 22, 2021 Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 4 hours ago, janax said: Also, we hold not treaties, public or private, with DBDC. You hold treaties with CLAWS, which happens to also mysteriously end up at war with alliances a few months after the same alliances get hit by DBDC, on more occasions than could be taken as a coincidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galtian Commune Posted January 22, 2021 Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 11 minutes ago, Mogar said: You hold treaties with CLAWS, which happens to also mysteriously end up at war with alliances a few months after the same alliances get hit by DBDC, on more occasions than could be taken as a coincidence. To be fair, we’ve also raided a number of alliances who have not been involved in any wars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted January 22, 2021 Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 37 minutes ago, Galtian Commune said: To be fair, we’ve also raided a number of alliances who have not been involved in any wars. But those alliances you hit are also are effectively blacklisted from participating in global politics. To pretend as though there is no agreements between DBDC and other alliances at minimum due to dual memberships is rather silly. It's alzo alright to admit the goal is killing the planet, not that I expect those actually creating this scenario to acknowledge that to their general memberships, but when it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, odds are it is exactly what it appears to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroofTime55 Posted January 22, 2021 Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 6 hours ago, janax said: I'm the founder, but no longer the Emperor. I stepped down in 2013. I'm just a small mouthpiece of government now. I don't make the decisions as to what is or isn't released. I feel confident that it's not a war of extermination. PZI went away long ago. Forced disbandment as well. Also, we hold not treaties, public or private, with DBDC. Yes, you do. CLAWS and DBDC are one and the same. And CLAWS/DBDC have been harassing Cobra and NG for a year, in direct violation of the NAP, prior to this noCB curb stomp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrash Posted January 22, 2021 Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 5 hours ago, Liltrekkie said: Interesting take, as someone who has done the same thing to others in the past. Pot, meet kettle. If we're punishing people for what they did in the past, when is the second Karma coming? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrash Posted January 22, 2021 Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Thrash said: sorry double post. and I'm a retard for quoting myself. Edited January 22, 2021 by Thrash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewie Posted January 22, 2021 Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, LJ Scott said: Think I sussed it: I actually chuckled at this. I mean.. If I was plotting to do something I would have made significantly more treaty movements than I have.. Reference: 2011 where I dumped Pandoras Box because they didn't want to hit SF/XX Me being coup'd from NG leadership in 2014 because I wanted to sign treaties with Polar/XX to go after former PB alliances. Edited January 22, 2021 by Stewie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citizenkane Posted January 22, 2021 Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 The more and more that one applies logic and cold hard facts to this scenario; the more it becomes apparent that NPO are without morality, honour, and integrity. Your citizens do not get put in prison without knowing what they are in prison for. You do not punish your children without telling them the reason. You communicate with your allies when you're about to hit one of their allies In this scenario, I strongly feel that NPO are acting, quite frankly, as a rogue alliance and should be treated as such. Any form of sovereignty; any form of legitimacy from NPO walked out the door with this DOW. Lets call NPO what they really are, instead of hiding behind a lie of integrity, honour and trust: They are rogue, they are outsiders, they are not to be trusted, and most importantly - they arent good allies. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kapleo Posted January 22, 2021 Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 3 hours ago, Thrash said: If we're punishing people for what they did in the past, when is the second Karma coming? Well, you know what they say. No one escapes Karma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hakai Posted January 22, 2021 Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 thrash and kapleo out here like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Bad Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 15 hours ago, citizenkane said: The more and more that one applies logic and cold hard facts to this scenario; the more it becomes apparent that NPO are without morality, honour, and integrity. Your citizens do not get put in prison without knowing what they are in prison for. You do not punish your children without telling them the reason. You communicate with your allies when you're about to hit one of their allies In this scenario, I strongly feel that NPO are acting, quite frankly, as a rogue alliance and should be treated as such. Any form of sovereignty; any form of legitimacy from NPO walked out the door with this DOW. Lets call NPO what they really are, instead of hiding behind a lie of integrity, honour and trust: They are rogue, they are outsiders, they are not to be trusted, and most importantly - they arent good allies. . Well yeah that has been NPO for decade at least, nobody would really deny it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankobite Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 2 hours ago, The Big Bad said: Well yeah that has been NPO for decade at least, nobody would really deny it. I mean some would say since 2006... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyanna Mormont Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 @Lord Hitchcock Ben, My deepest apologies for the delay, however, Cobra officially recognizes your attacks against us. Your patience is appreciated as we are currently unable to tend to the needs of King Neptune's Bar. Please, take a number and have a seat, a representative will be with you shortly. You are #972638446 in the queue. Signed for Cobra: Johnny Apocalypse - King Cobra Lyanna, General Tiki - Royal Guard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caustic Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 Poor Ben, late to the table and forgotten like always. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hitchcock Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 4 hours ago, Lyanna Mormont said: @Lord Hitchcock Ben, My deepest apologies for the delay, however, Cobra officially recognizes your attacks against us. Your patience is appreciated as we are currently unable to tend to the needs of King Neptune's Bar. Please, take a number and have a seat, a representative will be with you shortly. You are #972638446 in the queue. Signed for Cobra: Johnny Apocalypse - King Cobra Lyanna, General Tiki - Royal Guard An official Statement from King Neptune’s Bar “I, Lord Hitchcock am confused by Cobra’s claims. The referenced war on General Kannibis was a bipartisan agreed upon term during the Cobra-KNB war. The Gladiator term Cobra themselves drafted and we signed to. The term could not be fulfilled due to range issues and Johnny wrote it off publicly without our consent. KNB chose to fulfill said term (no timeline was ever established, nor does a write off not allow the lender to repay its debts) when possible (while this war made it possible, if the war was not occurring and it was possible it would still have been performed.) In fact, an additional cobra nation was added so that it didn’t appear KNB was let off easy or given any slack on their end because GK hasn’t fought back. That said, Cobra and KNB agreed to these legalities. To set terms of which we obliged only to war after terms were followed sets the same dangerous precedence Cobra is accusing their aggressors of. These legalities have also been vetted by lawyers who recognize this legal framework to be, and should be, recognized by Cobra who voided their obligation. Therefore, KNB does not recognize Cobra as they have become a Failed State.“ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talbrys Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 14 minutes ago, Lord Hitchcock said: These legalities have also been vetted by lawyers who recognize this legal framework to be, and should be, recognized by Cobra who voided their obligation. Therefore, KNB does not recognize Cobra as they have become a Failed State.“ Pretty sure we stopped recognizing it when we realized you never were a legitimate state to begin with. Disclaimer: I'm not gov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citizenkane Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 54 minutes ago, Lord Hitchcock said: An official Statement from King Neptune’s Bar “I, Lord Hitchcock am confused by Cobra’s claims. The referenced war on General Kannibis was a bipartisan agreed upon term during the Cobra-KNB war. The Gladiator term Cobra themselves drafted and we signed to. The term could not be fulfilled due to range issues and Johnny wrote it off publicly without our consent. KNB chose to fulfill said term (no timeline was ever established, nor does a write off not allow the lender to repay its debts) when possible (while this war made it possible, if the war was not occurring and it was possible it would still have been performed.) In fact, an additional cobra nation was added so that it didn’t appear KNB was let off easy or given any slack on their end because GK hasn’t fought back. That said, Cobra and KNB agreed to these legalities. To set terms of which we obliged only to war after terms were followed sets the same dangerous precedence Cobra is accusing their aggressors of. These legalities have also been vetted by lawyers who recognize this legal framework to be, and should be, recognized by Cobra who voided their obligation. Therefore, KNB does not recognize Cobra as they have become a Failed State.“ They the same lawyers that NPO used by chance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyanna Mormont Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Lord Hitchcock said: An official Statement from King Neptune’s Bar “I, Lord Hitchcock am confused by Cobra’s claims. The referenced war on General Kannibis was a bipartisan agreed upon term during the Cobra-KNB war. The Gladiator term Cobra themselves drafted and we signed to. The term could not be fulfilled due to range issues and Johnny wrote it off publicly without our consent. KNB chose to fulfill said term (no timeline was ever established, nor does a write off not allow the lender to repay its debts) when possible (while this war made it possible, if the war was not occurring and it was possible it would still have been performed.) In fact, an additional cobra nation was added so that it didn’t appear KNB was let off easy or given any slack on their end because GK hasn’t fought back. That said, Cobra and KNB agreed to these legalities. To set terms of which we obliged only to war after terms were followed sets the same dangerous precedence Cobra is accusing their aggressors of. These legalities have also been vetted by lawyers who recognize this legal framework to be, and should be, recognized by Cobra who voided their obligation. Therefore, KNB does not recognize Cobra as they have become a Failed State.“ Ben, Please feel free to leave a message and a representative will get with you shortly. As always, we appreciate your time. Stay safe out there. Sincerely, Ly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewie Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Lord Hitchcock said: An official Statement from King Neptune’s Bar “I, Lord Hitchcock am confused by Cobra’s claims. The referenced war on General Kannibis was a bipartisan agreed upon term during the Cobra-KNB war. The Gladiator term Cobra themselves drafted and we signed to. The term could not be fulfilled due to range issues and Johnny wrote it off publicly without our consent. KNB chose to fulfill said term (no timeline was ever established, nor does a write off not allow the lender to repay its debts) when possible (while this war made it possible, if the war was not occurring and it was possible it would still have been performed.) In fact, an additional cobra nation was added so that it didn’t appear KNB was let off easy or given any slack on their end because GK hasn’t fought back. That said, Cobra and KNB agreed to these legalities. To set terms of which we obliged only to war after terms were followed sets the same dangerous precedence Cobra is accusing their aggressors of. These legalities have also been vetted by lawyers who recognize this legal framework to be, and should be, recognized by Cobra who voided their obligation. Therefore, KNB does not recognize Cobra as they have become a Failed State.“ Cobra are not a state, they are an alliance of nations. If you are going to claim legalities get it right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankobite Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 5 hours ago, Stewie said: Cobra are not a state, they are an alliance of nations. If you are going to claim legalities get it right. This is why he has to hire lawyer. Too bad they’re sovereign citizen caliber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerdge Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 18 hours ago, Lyanna Mormont said: You are #972638446 in the queue. It should have been 9,998,383,750,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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