Canik Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 It depends on how you define independent. You took it in the literal sense, Starfox. We take it as puppet vs non-puppet. A free-thinking alliance with it's own ambitions and agendas vs an alliance who defers all of that to another Although I don't see what activating an optional clause has to do with it. Unless you define independence as being able to roll an entire sphere by yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfox101 Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 Independent would be WTF or to some extent GOP. Â I'm sorry but whatever definition you wish to create for independent - WTF does not occupy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williambonney Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 Once again, you are missing the point. Nowhere did I say FTW was a puppet, and there was absolutely no mention of Polar anywhere. I'm not sure why you bothered to respond if you didn't even read the discussion. Optional means not independent when you activate it without a CB. If you want to make an argument that FTW is an independent alliance...go ahead. I'll wait right here. Starfox, I'm not entirely sure you understand what independant means....http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/_/dict.aspx?rd=1&word=Independence+%28politics%29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canik Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 lol okay Starfox. I'm not gonna keep on about it here. You can start a blog about it if you want to keep discussing it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDragon Posted December 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 (edited) Day 29 (Nov 7 11pm - Dec 6 6pm) Edited December 7, 2014 by ShadowDragon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfox101 Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 Starfox, I'm not entirely sure you understand what independant means....http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/_/dict.aspx?rd=1&word=Independence+%28politics%29 First off, you can't even spell independence so please don't lecture me on it. Â Secondly, from your own link: Â INDEPENDENCE. A state of perfect irresponsibility to any superior; the United States are free and independent of all earthly power. Â Â Â Â 2. Independence may be divided into political and natural independence. By the former is to be understood that we have contracted no tie except those which flow from the three great natural rights of safety, liberty and property. The latter consists in the power of being able to enjoy a permanent well-being, whatever may be the disposition of those from whom we call ourselves independent. Â Again, I'll state: If you wish to argue FTW is an independent alliance, please do. I'll wait here. Â Â Â lol okay Starfox. I'm not gonna keep on about it here. You can start a blog about it if you want to keep discussing it Mature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxasm Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 First off, you can't even spell independence so please don't lecture me on it. Â Secondly, from your own link: Â INDEPENDENCE. A state of perfect irresponsibility to any superior; the United States are free and independent of all earthly power. Â Â Â Â 2. Independence may be divided into political and natural independence. By the former is to be understood that we have contracted no tie except those which flow from the three great natural rights of safety, liberty and property. The latter consists in the power of being able to enjoy a permanent well-being, whatever may be the disposition of those from whom we call ourselves independent. Â Again, I'll state: If you wish to argue FTW is an independent alliance, please do. I'll wait here. Â Â Â Mature. In order to understand what you mean by independent, since that definition was hardly obvious, which of the following alliances would you say are independent: DS, GPA, NPO, NpO, Invicta, SNX, IRON, WTF, FTW? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartfw Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 You all are ruining my enjoyment of stats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auctor Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 "independent" and "relevant" are synonymous with "people I like" in the context of CN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tehmina Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 You all are ruining my enjoyment of stats. THIS. FUCKING THIS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tehmina Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 Invicta Dmg received : 1,549,208.16 Dmg Inflicted: 1,520,203.04 RESPECT. o/ Invicta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfox101 Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 In order to understand what you mean by independent, since that definition was hardly obvious, which of the following alliances would you say are independent: DS, GPA, NPO, NpO, Invicta, SNX, IRON, WTF, FTW? GPA and WTF. Â Invicta Dmg received : 1,549,208.16 Dmg Inflicted: 1,520,203.04 RESPECT. o/ Invicta Agreed. Legion doing very well, also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hershey Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 I don't see Alpha Wolves on the recent stats. They are currently at war with FTW and DS. Â Thanks for keeping track of the stats, it is certainly addicting to look at! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDragon Posted December 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 I don't see Alpha Wolves on the recent stats. They are currently at war with FTW and DS. Thanks for keeping track of the stats, it is certainly addicting to look at! Added Alpha Wolves. They'll be in tonight's update now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldConqueror Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 InvictaDmg received : 1,549,208.16Dmg Inflicted: 1,520,203.04RESPECT.o/ Invicta Agreed. Legion doing very well, also. They are, it's interesting to look at it by each alliance they're respectively fighting though. Some fronts are more skewed than others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfox101 Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 True. Pretty much any alliance avoiding the upper tier killing will have better numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tehmina Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 True. Pretty much any alliance avoiding the upper tier killing will have better numbers. eh, LSF isn't avoiding Upper tier wars but are having good ratio too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDragon Posted December 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 Day 30 (Nov 7 11pm - Dec 7 6pm) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anarquista Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 still kickin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogaden Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 And RIA flies up the leaderboard! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralWright Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 Its about time GATO were added to these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berbers Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 I suspect NpO's ratio is about to even out much like NPO last war Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonator21 Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 Looking forward to watching MI6 climb the list :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arentak Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 So are a lot of people, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubaQuerida Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 Looking forward to watching MI6 climb the list :D I'm looking forward to one of the columns yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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