Ogaden Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Even without the disclaimer -- making this a statement about current wars in general rather than about one large war in particular -- that's a rather damning figure. I'd heard a lot of complaining about this from people on both sides, but didn't realize the number of nations simply 'turtling' was so high. However, it may not be any kind of statement about ability, but rather another example of the problem of inactivity that seems to be afflicting every alliance; a problem that is defining this war in more ways than people probably realize. This is pretty much it, classic example is for instance Delta1212, who logs in maybe once a month to collect, Thunder Strike, who maybe logs in once a week, and us who log in every day. TS's damage ratio was 0 for 100 for the first 3 days after he was hit, Delta still hasn't fired anything back, and a lot of us have net positive and we're defending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabcat Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 How many of these inactive players are going to log in after a week or so, find their nation in ruins and never log in again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDragon Posted December 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 I did take screenshots of the last 2 days despite not posting them. Was too busy but here they are now:Day 35 (Nov 7 11pm - Dec 12 6pm) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDragon Posted December 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 yesterday's update:Day 36 (Nov 7 11pm - Dec 13 6pm) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabcat Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Our damage ratio is so close to 1:1 now. Another day and we'll be negative. So it goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubaQuerida Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Our damage ratio is so close to 1:1 now. Another day and we'll be negative. So it goes.where did you learn to interpret data?! Just because both numbers are in the 20s doesn't make it almost 1:1. If this were an election you would call it a triumphant win, borderline landslide, with one side winning 58% to 41%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabcat Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 where did you learn to interpret data?! Just because both numbers are in the 20s doesn't make it almost 1:1. If this were an election you would call it a triumphant win, borderline landslide, with one side winning 58% to 41%. On that interpretation it'll be a landslide in the opposite direction tomorrow. We're pretty much a spent force by this point. Still some fight left though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxasm Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 (edited) where did you learn to interpret data?! Just because both numbers are in the 20s doesn't make it almost 1:1. If this were an election you would call it a triumphant win, borderline landslide, with one side winning 58% to 41%. I think he was referring to LSF's ratio, which is almost exactly 1:1, not to the overall war ratio. Edit: Specifically, they have done 9.8 NS more damage than they have taken. Not 9.8k, just 9.8NS. A single CM will tip them into the negatives. Edited December 14, 2014 by saxasm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcrews Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 [Sat-12-2014 21:02:39] <&Dcrews|FTW> Fuck is up with these two Npotards trolling my chan. [Sat-12-2014 21:02:52] <Terminator> to be fair [Sat-12-2014 21:02:59] <Terminator> I proved your member wrong [Sat-12-2014 21:03:15] <Terminator> its not really trolling when I stated a fact your guy said I was wrong [Sat-12-2014 21:03:20] <Terminator> and I proved I was right [Sat-12-2014 21:03:37] <&Dcrews|FTW> We've delt more damage to them, we have a higher damage per war than most of the alliances involved, and we are 21st in damaged caused [Sat-12-2014 21:03:44] <&Dcrews|FTW> How does that equal we cannot fight [Sat-12-2014 21:03:46] <&Dcrews|FTW> it doesn't [Sat-12-2014 21:04:08] <%TheDon125> Dcrews|FTW: Terminator is clinging to the tiny victory where I didn't believe Sima started the war with only 200 tech. [Sat-12-2014 21:04:09] <&Dcrews|FTW> It was a baseless attempt to attempt to get an emotional response [Sat-12-2014 21:04:18] <%TheDon125> He was terribly incorrect on everything else he said. [Sat-12-2014 21:04:44] <Terminator> oh that too [Sat-12-2014 21:04:47] <&Dcrews|FTW> Seems to me [Sat-12-2014 21:04:49] <Terminator> but in the wars [Sat-12-2014 21:04:56] <Terminator> polars have dealt more damage to FTW [Sat-12-2014 21:05:00] <Terminator> than you have to us [Sat-12-2014 21:05:02] <Terminator> NS wise Vs Polar 321384.56 damaged caused 307713.73 damage taken. And these are from last night, about two cycles after we decided you weren't worth our time and decided to play with your friend Sparta. Whatever you're smoking Terminator, stalp. You're embarrassing yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabcat Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 I think he was referring to LSF's ratio, which is almost exactly 1:1, not to the overall war ratio. Edit: Specifically, they have done 9.8 NS more damage than they have taken. Not 9.8k, just 9.8NS. A single CM will tip them into the negatives. Yep, I was talking about LSF's ratio. Good while it lasted :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyt2k Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Yep, I was talking about LSF's ratio. Good while it lasted :) I read it the same, I was about to laugh and the Tywin style poster and mock, then I saw this post and realised i jump to assumptions too quickly lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovidsidios Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Whatever you're smoking Terminator, stalp. You're embarrassing yourself. The butt hurt is strong with this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scolar visari Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 i feel sorry for NpO even though they screwed me over many times in the past, they don't deserve this beating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopherbashi Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 So I was checking out the new stats and noticed that SNX has been in *exactly* 1000 wars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIEIXIAIS Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 [Sat-12-2014 21:02:39] <&Dcrews|FTW> $%&@ is up with these two Npotards trolling my chan. [Sat-12-2014 21:02:52] <Terminator> to be fair [Sat-12-2014 21:02:59] <Terminator> I proved your member wrong [Sat-12-2014 21:03:15] <Terminator> its not really trolling when I stated a fact your guy said I was wrong [Sat-12-2014 21:03:20] <Terminator> and I proved I was right [Sat-12-2014 21:03:37] <&Dcrews|FTW> We've delt more damage to them, we have a higher damage per war than most of the alliances involved, and we are 21st in damaged caused [Sat-12-2014 21:03:44] <&Dcrews|FTW> How does that equal we cannot fight [Sat-12-2014 21:03:46] <&Dcrews|FTW> it doesn't [Sat-12-2014 21:04:08] <%TheDon125> Dcrews|FTW: Terminator is clinging to the tiny victory where I didn't believe Sima started the war with only 200 tech. [Sat-12-2014 21:04:09] <&Dcrews|FTW> It was a baseless attempt to attempt to get an emotional response [Sat-12-2014 21:04:18] <%TheDon125> He was terribly incorrect on everything else he said. [Sat-12-2014 21:04:44] <Terminator> oh that too [Sat-12-2014 21:04:47] <&Dcrews|FTW> Seems to me [Sat-12-2014 21:04:49] <Terminator> but in the wars [Sat-12-2014 21:04:56] <Terminator> polars have dealt more damage to FTW [Sat-12-2014 21:05:00] <Terminator> than you have to us [Sat-12-2014 21:05:02] <Terminator> NS wise Vs Polar 321384.56 damaged caused 307713.73 damage taken. And these are from last night, about two cycles after we decided you weren't worth our time and decided to play with your friend Sparta. Whatever you're smoking Terminator, stalp. You're embarrassing yourself. lol terminator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anarquista Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 yeah sabcat! where did you learn to interpret data sabcat! you not smart! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tehmina Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 terminator still plays the game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scolar visari Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 (edited) it would be better for the game if a lot of old nations like terminator quit or reroll, when they get beaten down with their full wonder set and nukes and destroy new nations, those nations end up quitting . Edited December 16, 2014 by scolar visari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDragon Posted December 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 yesterday's updateDay 37 (Nov 7 11pm - Dec 14 6pm) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDragon Posted December 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 (edited) Day 38 (Nov 7 11pm - Dec 15 6pm) Edited December 16, 2014 by ShadowDragon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longshadow Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 it would be better for the game if a lot of old nations like terminator quit or reroll, when they get beaten down with their full wonder set and nukes and destroy new nations, those nations end up quitting . Or perhaps someone should put to admin an idea for dealing with this issue, instead of demanding they reroll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfox101 Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Perhaps a way to destroy wonders. But then we might get rage quits. System is about as good as it gets I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkfox Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Having a certain amount of infra and/or tech to maintain wonders would probably be most fair. Have them deactivate or be destroyed after the minimum amount is gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 it would be better for the game if a lot of old nations like terminator quit or reroll, when they get beaten down with their full wonder set and nukes and destroy new nations, those nations end up quitting . Oh no, they finally figured out why trying to annihilate Polar was a bad idea! Lets hope we don't accept the peace offers from all of them. Cooking lulzists in imu pits is what's feeding my nation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Having a certain amount of infra and/or tech to maintain wonders would probably be most fair. Have them deactivate or be destroyed after the minimum amount is gone. That would be very convenient for war dodging infra-huggers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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