The Warrior Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 So do we. That would have been a positive FA move for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush Sykes Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 So do we. That would have been a positive FA move for us. At this point, a treaty with GGA would be a positive FA move for you. Or making Terry Howard your leader. Literally ANYTHING is an improvement over your last 72 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ch33kY Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 (edited) Sorry, double post. Edited November 19, 2013 by Ch33kY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ch33kY Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 OMG lol a NAP? What is this, 2006 :P somebody had to say it Those were my thoughts as well :laugh: Tough I think we (TOP) had some kind of agreement with NpO along the lines of an NAP, and that genuinely benefitted relations. I think you can only have an NAP after a serious conflict in order to better relations. NAPs serve no purpose otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonator21 Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 This gives me a feeling of some sort. It makes you feel some type of way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cataduanes Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Excellent presentation as always Pacifica :wub: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londo Mollari Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Notice of Cancellation This world is one noted for its many relationships changes. Over the years, alliances shift their allegiances; friends can become enemies, and enemies can become friends. Relationships are fluid, changing just as alliances themselves change. It is therefore all the more notable when a relationship remains steady throughout such upheavals. For almost seven years the New Pacific Order and the Independent Republic of Orange Nations have maintained the Cordiality Accords; a treaty of Civility, Non-Aggression, Intelligence Sharing and Optional Assistance in Foreign Conflicts. During these seven years, our relationship has had many ups and downs, but both parties have always stood as friends, never opposing each other on the battlefield. For both the Order and the Republic, it is a relationship without equal in its historic significance and resilience. It is therefore with immense regret and no small amount of debate that we had to deliver the notice of this treatys cancellation earlier this evening. Per Article IV, Section 2, this treaty shall be void in 3 days. For seven years, the Order and the Republic never stood on opposite ends of the battlefield; however, this changed when IRON decided to enter, via a treaty of optional aggression, on an aggressive war upon our sphere and specifically upon our ally in TLR. Whilst we can appreciate the reasons that led IRON to this decision and hold them no ill-will for deciding to pick the side on which they have the most allies, we can also no longer in good faith maintain a stance of non-aggression with them when they are in the middle of beating down our ally. To do so would be a disservice to the bonds of allegiance between NPO and TLR, as well as our duty to our allies in the wider coalition. We can also no longer in good faith maintain a policy of intelligence sharing with the Republic when IRON without sharing this information with the Order has actively been involved in the planning and execution of a coalition whose end goal (even if by unfortunate necessity rather than desire) can only succeed by inflicting widespread destruction on the New Pacific Order and its allied sphere. We can no longer maintain a policy of intelligence sharing when, in return, the New Pacific Order is forced to take a leading role in a coalition that has to plan a defense against IRONs attack a defense that by unfortunate necessity will mean damages for the Republic. To do so would be a great disservice to our duties to all of our allies in our coalition. Whilst we greatly appreciate the many conflicts of interest and hard decisions that IRON has had to make over the past few months, hard decisions can only be called so because they have a price. In this situation, the price has been one of the worlds most long-standing and cherished relationships. Despite our disappointment, and despite the necessity of this war forcing us on opposite sides, the Order bears no grudge against the Republic for its decisions. We will continue to regard them as a friendly alliance, and commit ourselves to maintaining the atmosphere of civility that was enshrined in this treaty. It is our sincere hope that, whatever path they have managed to gain access to through these decisions, they will come to find the benefits to be worth the price.Farrin Xies, Emperor of the New Pacific Order The Lone Star EmperorRed, Imperial Regent of the New Pacific Order I knew that getting to know NPO after Karma was the right choice. This is classy and a good thing to see. And yes, even now people still plot to take you down. They'll never top the first time it happened though. <3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikolay Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 A sad day, how sad it is that such an ancient and once respected Alliance had fallen into such disgrace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oranges Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Lol yeah the damage that could do. Not all damages can be measured in terms of infrastructure, or tech. Holding on to the notion that pixels matter is what keeps you from understanding why this was necessary. To our friends in IRON, all the very best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samus Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 I don't think anyone from IRON really cares lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hombre de Murcielago Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 I don't think anyone from IRON really cares lol Yes, RON has made it abundantly clear that they do not care about their treaties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memoryproblems Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Oh, please, if this war had gone off the way NG wanted, TPF was already pledged to go with the optional Fark treaty over all the NG-side mutuals you have (unless you all were lying to CoJ).I've refrained from commenting on TPF gov posts like this so far because I respect TPF, but with a post like that you guys have got to the point where I'm not going to sit around and let you pretend that TPF are the flag-waiving patriots you're acting like over there.You wound me, sir.But actually, it wasn't until the day before we entered that we decided to be on the NPO side. I have no interest in pretending to being flag-waving patriots, perception means very little to me, but I still can't pretend like this is anything more or less then IRON deserves. When you act like a fool, there are consequences, and IRON has been very foolish lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Coulson Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 I believe this is called the "You can't quit, you're fired." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinux Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 To all my freinds on both sides, best of luck to Pacifica. You all are in the right on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander shepard Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Yes, RON has made it abundantly clear that they do not care about their treaties. This announcement would not be posted if IRON did not care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icewolf Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 As a former diplomat to NPO I am sad to see this announcement, just as I was sad when we cancelled our MDP with you. Friends cannot always march together and it shows great maturity on your side that you recognise that and can accept it without bitterness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daimos Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Sad day indeed. Gook luck IRON. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sardonic Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 I don't think anyone from IRON really cares lol You should probably start caring before you dig your grave more than you have already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgiganto Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Can't say I didn't see this coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third King Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 I don't think anyone from IRON really cares lol Then you are very wrong, amigo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berbers Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 "Honored" implies a whole lot more than reality: shoulder-shrugging blind obedience. And as such, I cordially invite them to stop acting like it's anything more than that and/or as if being slaves to slow-paced, lazy, schizophrenic FP makes them better than IRON. Schatt, you couldn't be further from the truth, it's mind-boggling how wrong you are really. This wasn't about obedience, it was about making the right decision based on changing variables. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvon Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 I don't think anyone from IRON really cares lol That's exactly why this happened. This announcement would not be posted if IRON did not care. Fixed that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereno Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 I don't think anyone from IRON really cares lol This is the worst possible thing you could have said. Just lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta1212 Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Actually there was Intel sharing clauses with this treaty as stated in the OP. Nobody takes intel clauses seriously. They share information with who they want to share information with and withhold it from whomever they don't. I seriously don't know why that clause even exists let alone makes it into every single treaty ever written. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samus Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 This is the worst possible thing you could have said. Just lol I don't care that a NAP was cancelled? The MDoAP was cancelled a long time ago, I don't see what this changes between our alliances, unless NPO is planning to attack us, which I doubt is their intention Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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