Devilyn Caster Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Good move, Pacifica, good luck moving into a brighter future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Markus Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Honour? Why would anyone WANT to honour a treaty with an alliance whose PR department doesn't know how to spell HONOUR correctly? ...honour... *drinks moose blood...pees maple syrup* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Paul Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 I knew that getting to know NPO after Karma was the right choice. This is classy and a good thing to see. And yes, even now people still plot to take you down. They'll never top the first time it happened though. <3 As the Grey Lady of the Cyberverse, all Pacifica has left is her grace, poise, class, and nuclear arsenal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauty Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 I don't think anyone from IRON really cares lol Thread has been won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Bad Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Thread has been won. Yep sure has. IRON does not care about treaties, or allies, or common sense. Thread won indeed. No better way to insult them. Nice to see you have come around and started using your brain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montosh Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Yep sure has. IRON does not care about treaties, or allies, or common sense. Thread won indeed. No better way to insult them. Nice to see you have come around and started using your brain. I think it was more referring to not caring about the OWF banter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branimir Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 I think it was more referring to not caring about the OWF banter. No it wasnt. Nor is it important. Lets go back to the war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wickedj Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Good riddance to bad rubbish. Haven't like you lot ..well..ever... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunny Side King Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 Thread has been won. It's not very often I agree with you. Nice call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeguy Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 (edited) Oh, please, if this war had gone off the way NG wanted, TPF was already pledged to go with the optional Fark treaty over all the NG-side mutuals you have (unless you all were lying to CoJ). I've refrained from commenting on TPF gov posts like this so far because I respect TPF, but with a post like that you guys have got to the point where I'm not going to sit around and let you pretend that TPF are the flag-waiving patriots you're acting like over there. We could have easily just sat this one out. Our treaties are non chaining as far as I'm aware, but FA isn't my area of expertise. You are right though, we did plan to go a different route in this war. It was when we noticed that one of our allies was getting, what we viewed as, unfairly dogpiled and the other wasn't even getting touched we changed our minds. If you want to demonize us for that choice then hey, go ahead. But I think we did a good thing. Edit: Oh I think I misunderstood you. If you want to use a hypothetical situation that never came to reality to demonize us go ahead. Edited November 20, 2013 by leeguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the rebel Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 Yep sure has. IRON does not care about treaties, or allies, or common sense. Thread won indeed. No better way to insult them. Nice to see you have come around and started using your brain. Reminds me of INT and by extension CnG during the LSF-NoR situation. Wasn't this much moral outrage by the world, but its funny to see the same people who supported that decision to ignore the treaty cry about something similar today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauty Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 (edited) Yep sure has. IRON does not care about treaties, or allies, or common sense. Thread won indeed. No better way to insult them. Nice to see you have come around and started using your brain. NPO cancelled a NAP for public show. I really hope IRON doesn't care for it. The fact that you go so deeply into trying to turn it around shows just how petty you are. Nice try, but no. Reminds me of INT and by extension CnG during the LSF-NoR situation. Wasn't this much moral outrage by the world, but its funny to see the same people who supported that decision to ignore the treaty cry about something similar today. Don't bring up hypocrisy. They already know they're hypocrites. They do not care. Edited November 20, 2013 by Rotavele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pd73bassman Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 A NAP cancellation, important stuff here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schattenmann Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 If you want to demonize us You'll know if I'm demonizing you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oranges Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 NPO cancelled a NAP for public show. I really hope IRON doesn't care for it. The fact that you go so deeply into trying to turn it around shows just how petty you are. Nice try, but no. You really just don't get it, do you? You might not personally understand the obligations that come with a treaty, but the New Pacific Order does, and that's why this cancellation was necessary. You longer you keep bashing something you don't understand, the more obvious your ignorance is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauty Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 (edited) You really just don't get it, do you? You might not personally understand the obligations that come with a treaty, but the New Pacific Order does, and that's why this cancellation was necessary. You longer you keep bashing something you don't understand, the more obvious your ignorance is. I know you are but what am I?A NAP cancellation, important stuff here It's DEAD serious broooooo. Edited November 20, 2013 by Rotavele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aegon Targaryen Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 (edited) I know you are but what am I? An idiot. Now, if we could return to the topic at hand. Edited November 20, 2013 by Aegon Targaryen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cataduanes Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 You'll know if I'm demonizing you. Your just breaking us all in right Schatt? :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauty Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 An idiot. Now, if we could return to the topic at hand. I no u are, but wut am I? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomInterrupt Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 Those were my thoughts as well :laugh: Tough I think we (TOP) had some kind of agreement with NpO along the lines of an NAP, and that genuinely benefitted relations. I think you can only have an NAP after a serious conflict in order to better relations. NAPs serve no purpose otherwise. Assuming you are referring to the post-Grudge war era, it wasn't so much of an NAP as an agreement to reset relations to neutral and to end the perpetual war cycle between us. So, sort of the same but different. I think it worked. "Back in the day" people used NAPs as an opener treaty. Something to sign with an alliance to facilitate discussion and avoid direct conflict. Alliances didn't bring their entire sphere into every war back then either (only the big ones) so it was conceivable that two alliances on opposing sides could agree to not fight each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauty Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 Those were my thoughts as well :laugh: Tough I think we (TOP) had some kind of agreement with NpO along the lines of an NAP, and that genuinely benefitted relations. I think you can only have an NAP after a serious conflict in order to better relations. NAPs serve no purpose otherwise. I would sign them with everyone so I knew who was going to hit me beforehand and have target lists ready. #FoodForThought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBilly1 Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 just given my support to the Emperor. tough decision from the Order.... o/ Farrin o/ Pacifica Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owney OSullivan Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 I normally don't care too much about cancellations, but this one is truly unfortunate to see. I've had nothing but the utmost respect for NPO since before I was even in IRON, well over 2,200 days ago. You guys have been cut some rough deals over the years with folks seemingly always out to get you, yet always stuck to your guns and fought hard, built back up, and stared down your enemies once again on the battlefield. Much respect, and I sincerely hope relations can be repaired down the line. o7 NPO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shan Revan Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 (edited) I remember when this treaty was signed. IRON had people like Sister Midnight and Shan Revan in charge, and was actually a respected alliance. These days, who do you have left? HAHAHAHAHAHA Hey, I'm still around... Sorta. Rey's point was stupid and without substance. If he adds an actual "argument", then perhaps I will address it. If you are truly of the belief that IRON is one to stab their allies in the back, then go ahead, believe that. But you may find we are a very honorable alliances. And I believe the NPO will want to work with us again once dust has settled. Also, added the I :) Confriming this to the IRON members, IRON has indeed stabbed several good allies in the back (and some not so good ones), either through knee jerk reaction (NPO-Karma), Cowardice (NoV, ONOS, original VE... sorta), or unintentionally/incompetence (Polaris... well sorta not really it's complicated..., TOP - well that was was more intentional but we wanted them beside us not against. ) and probably a handful of others. Possibly ODN depending on how broad you want to get. Most alliances that have done anything of worth in this game have a similar list though. Hell at one point we nearly straight up attacked Sparta whilst a treaty was active because we forgot it existed. Good times. What are you trying to say here, duelking? You seem unable to complete your thought. While I knew RON had suffered a drain in leadership and intelligence, I had no idea it was so severe. It is no wonder NPO had to cancel on you. Now really, this is an NAP. They have canceled an NAP. What does it say when you get an NAP dropped in this day and age? I am really going to enjoy watching you guys burn in a few months. Oh don't be too mean to DK, he's one of the better new councillors in ron. ;) (ron really is a terrible insult though) What a historical event between NPO and IRON. Well the last time it was nearly cancelled was during GW1 so it kinda is. I don't think anyone from IRON really cares lol This is a bad post and you should feel bad. Edited November 23, 2013 by Shan Revan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernesto Che Guevara Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 Solid move, NPO. You're better than that trash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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