Merrie Melodies Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='Farrin Xies' timestamp='1339646630' post='2982805'] For those with reading comprehension problems, let me give a tl;dr: NPO thinks that MK is wrong in their actions; however, we stand by our allies and will not ignore our treaties. I'm not sure how many more times, how much louder, or how much more clearly we can say that WE DO NOT SUPPORT MK'S ACTIONS. [/quote] By stating you will defend them you are also stating you defend there actions. I have no issue with what MK is doing ( I rather enjoy it) my issue is NPO trying to claim honor out of hypocrisy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canik Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='Dajobo' timestamp='1339644877' post='2982735'] Yeah I'm afraid I can't accept the boiled down version here. "We believe it's wrong but seeing as it's our friends doing it we'll support it" Put me in the disappointed group. [/quote] Put me in the proud group. NPO's allies stood with them through thick & thin. Only proper they should do the same. And I hate to say it, but NpO could learn a lesson here? Perhaps? <3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntyCrist Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 I find my self fully in agreement with NPO, but wold add CSN/GoD coulden't have happen to a nicer group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernesto Che Guevara Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 Brehon Doesn't Lie. Brehon Doesn't Rep. Pax Brehonia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taget Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 No side on this planet in any conflict is ever perfect. In fact it is those very imperfections that usually give us the gift of war. The best you can do is stick by your friends and hope for the best. And TLR is proud to call NPO a friend. I share your aversion to reps and hope others will as well. Though that is just my personal opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCX28 Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 How honorable of you Brehon. I greatly admire the stance the NPO has taken in this conflict. o/ Pacifica Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 Perhaps the non-chaining clauses could actually be determined to be meaningful? I guess that won't happen. There's also reevaluating FA ties after this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D34th Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 Actions speak louder than words NPO, your fancy words worth less than nothing when with your actions you support the ridiculous war started by Mushroom Kingdom. That said, I'm not even slightly surprised for you deciding this course of action, Pacifica always was a selfish alliance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subcomandante VL Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 Interesting. This was unexpected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MutedFaith Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 Nice move NPO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Buscemi Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 Is this a bad time to talk about the reps you owe me? I still think about 100,000 tech is due to my nation in the next 30 days. Not sure how that going to work logistically, but I'll let you figure that out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 Does this mean NPO might oppose the MK side, but promises no reps? Or is this a confirmation that your allies will probably put you firmly on MK's side this war despite disagreement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banksy Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 more lik new pepsi order Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horatio Longworth Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='King William' timestamp='1339643507' post='2982665'] The patents have been filed. [/quote] Still waiting on the royalties due us... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diogenes Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='Methrage' timestamp='1339654772' post='2983073'] Does this mean NPO might oppose the MK side, but promises no reps? Or is this a confirmation that your allies will probably put you firmly on MK's side this war despite disagreement? [/quote] I interpreted it as the NPO saying that they find our (MK's) CB against CSN distasteful, that they will defend any allies on our side of the conflict in spite of that, and that they will not impose vindictive terms upon any alliances they find themselves engaged with, regardless of sides. I'm not a member of the NPO, though, so any of them can feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeta Defender Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Quiziotle' timestamp='1339646803' post='2982814'] cry out against us all you'd like, you'll never obfuscate the fact that we control you [/quote] I honestly thing no one can control Pacifica but herself but thanks for playing. [quote name='D34th' timestamp='1339650882' post='2982959'] Actions speak louder than words NPO, your fancy words worth less than nothing when with your actions you support the ridiculous war started by Mushroom Kingdom. That said, I'm not even slightly surprised for you deciding this course of action, Pacifica always was a selfish alliance. [/quote] D34th, I expect better from yourself. If we were a selfish alliance, wouldn't we just give our x hour notice and end any treaties which we do not want to honor. While we have to deal with the political world, we also care about our allies and idiocy should not be a reason to watch someone honorable burn for it. As for the recent DoW; this game is more than just politics and treaties. Sometimes you have to take a stand for the moral fiber of your alliance and its members. Pacifica loves her allies and we will do whatever we can to defend them. However, we also feel that this war is something the world does not need and regardless of if MK wanted to take advantage of CSN based on one person incident. Regardless, know that we stand with our allies, to hell and back and with rolling a few hard sixes in there for good measure. Edited June 14, 2012 by Zeta Defender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobsanders2 Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='Zeta Defender' timestamp='1339660849' post='2983160'] Sometimes you have to take a stand for the moral fiber of your alliance and its members. Pacifica loves her allies and we will do whatever we can to defend them. However, we also feel that this war is something the world does not need and regardless of if MK wanted to take advantage of CSN based on one person incident. Regardless, know that we stand with our allies, to hell and back and with rolling a few hard sixes in there for good measure. [/quote] The New Pacific Order surrendered its right to pontificate about morality a long time ago. ‘Morality is the attitude we adopt towards those we personally dislike’ – Oscar Wilde. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeta Defender Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='bobsanders2' timestamp='1339662972' post='2983169'] The New Pacific Order surrendered its right to pontificate about morality a long time ago. ‘Morality is the attitude we adopt towards those we personally dislike’ – Oscar Wilde. [/quote] Call me an old sucker for some of the treatises which Vladimir and Cortath used to write. Plus I like musing Who appointed you as the philosophy musing police. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muwen1234 Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 honorable message. o/NPO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shahenshah Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='Boogeyman657' timestamp='1339643186' post='2982635'] Very interesting. [/quote] Not really, happens every war GL NPO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCRABT Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 Good luck Pacifica Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Stuart Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 Smart move brehon. Smart move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerdge Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='Bob Ilyani' timestamp='1339643136' post='2982632']I hate to point out the irony of NPO complaining about unprovoked aggression and blatant imperialism. [b]GPA would like a word with you[/b].[/quote] While I won't say that I don't understand the reasons you made that implicit comparison for, I'll have you know that we actually don't care about this whole situation. The Agency and her government have no specific opinion about the NPO (of the past or of today) and the WoP chapter was closed a long, [i]long[/i] time ago. We're not indifferent, though. We are happy of any honest, friendly and impartial interaction between us and the NPO. Or anyone else, for that matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saniiro Matsudaira Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 Sounds good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alterego Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='Bob Ilyani' timestamp='1339643136' post='2982632'] I hate to point out the irony of NPO complaining about unprovoked aggression and blatant imperialism. GPA would like a word with you. Mind you, MK knows just as well what being underneath a jackboot feel like. [/quote] 4 years ago perhaps. Have you been sleeping? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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