twodivine Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 So the question to this is will the God of Admin, and destroyer and life giver of Planet Bob drop his Admin bomb on this version like the first version? hmmm awaits the next chapter of drama. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pd73bassman Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 Yea the first go around didn't end so well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigrun Vapneir Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 [quote name='Vilien' date='29 April 2010 - 10:40 AM' timestamp='1272501640' post='2279109'] You see, my over-aggressive opponent-of-the-day, "moralism" is an [i]ideology[/i], and relative to Cybernations refers to the strict adherence to a code of ethics, typically in the sense of classical liberalism. That means that a moralist, or moralist alliance, would fight for the principles of "liberty" and "self determination" over concepts like, say, "order" and "stability". Any casual forumgoer might have trouble distinguishing between Pacifica's consistently and clearly stated policy of scientific realpolitik and emotionally based moralism. However, you and I both know that you are much, much more intelligent than the average poster.[/quote] You are confusing your own particular theory of morality with the broader meaning of the term. There are many theories of morality, generally incompatible. What they all have in common is that they provide a theoretical framework within which to approach the questions of right and wrong. Vladimirs postings were in very large part concerned with doing just that, therefore he provided a theory of morality (or to be more precise, he actually could be argued to have articulated several, depending on the vintage of the work you want to cite, but in each case he sought to provide a theoretical framework concerned with questions of right or wrong tailor-made to defend the rightness and justice of Pacificas actions.) Just because a theory is not compatible with one particular theory of morality, be it yours, or mine or anyone elses, does not make it any less a moral theory. [url="http://ocw.capcollege.bc.ca/philosophy/phil-208-environmental-ethics/Morality-and-Moral-Theories.html"]Educate thineself[/url] before you presume to correct others, lest ye embarrass yourself further. [quote name='Cortath' date='29 April 2010 - 12:10 PM' timestamp='1272507041' post='2279199'] You might not like what we do politically, but my neither government nor the members of my alliance have ever engaged in concerted efforts to violate RL law. [/quote] [color="red"]OOC: quit taking this OOC, it may be the first post of yours like this in this thread but your members have done it several times already and it is not appropriate. This is an IC forum, and I am not discussing the RL crimes of former players. That is for Admin and/or law enforcement to deal with not for us. Their IC crimes are quite enough to justify the death sentence VE pronounced upon them, and that is all we should be discussing here, and all I will discuss here. [/color] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noob Cake Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 (edited) /b/ could very easily deface CN, ruin admin's life IRL, or DDoS CN to death. They have no reason to do the above, so they post CP and gore on main forum, which amounts to nothing much and should be considered mild. /O /b/ Edited April 29, 2010 by Noob Cake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardus Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Sigrun Vapneir' date='28 April 2010 - 11:51 PM' timestamp='1272513090' post='2279327'] [color="red"]OOC: quit taking this OOC, it may be the first post of yours like this in this thread but your members have done it several times already and it is not appropriate. This is an IC forum, and I am not discussing the RL crimes of former players. That is for Admin and/or law enforcement to deal with not for us. Their IC crimes are quite enough to justify the death sentence VE pronounced upon them, and that is all we should be discussing here, and all I will discuss here. [/color] [/quote] A death sentence VE has repeatedly expressed little intention of pursuing, much to my own chagrin (though it is probably the wisest course of action). Oh, and take a dose of your own advice and let the Gods remind us of their commandments--playing deity in so vain a sense is annoying. Edited April 29, 2010 by Ardus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 *sigh* Not again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TypoNinja Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 [quote name='Ardus' date='29 April 2010 - 02:10 AM' timestamp='1272521418' post='2279571'] A death sentence VE has repeatedly expressed little intention of pursuing, much to my own chagrin (though it is probably the wisest course of action). [/quote] Whats wrong with giving people enough rope to hang themselves with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Impero Romano Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 [quote name='Ardus' date='29 April 2010 - 07:10 AM' timestamp='1272521418' post='2279571'] A death sentence VE has repeatedly expressed little intention of pursuing, much to my own chagrin (though it is probably the wisest course of action). Oh, and take a dose of your own advice and let the Gods remind us of their commandments--playing deity in so vain a sense is annoying. [/quote] Ardus, if you keep talking like that people are going to have to start reading before they post, and we cant have that now can we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olaf Styke Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 If Furseiseki couldn't make it work, you can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonymguy Posted April 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 Well I am not leading an alliance of 400 screaming monkeys for nation leaders like Fur was. There is a relatively small number of us, and those that I have spoken to do not express any interest in sabotaging ourselves by engaging in the same sort of activities as our predecessors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Savage Man Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 Condemning an alliance to death because of the actions of a small group of people three years ago? I'd like to think that I spent all that time in Vox for something. Please don't validate my fears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonymguy Posted April 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 [quote name='Chief Savage Man' date='29 April 2010 - 01:38 AM' timestamp='1272533886' post='2279721'] Condemning an alliance to death because of the actions of a small group of people three years ago? I'd like to think that I spent all that time in Vox for something. Please don't validate my fears. [/quote] Correct me if I am wrong, but isnt \m/ dead and disbanded? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Savage Man Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 [quote name='Nonymguy' date='29 April 2010 - 07:17 AM' timestamp='1272539855' post='2279745'] Correct me if I am wrong, but isnt \m/ dead and disbanded? [/quote] \m/ was re-created on Christmas day of 2009. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonymguy Posted April 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 [quote name='Chief Savage Man' date='29 April 2010 - 03:20 AM' timestamp='1272540001' post='2279747'] \m/ was re-created on Christmas day of 2009. [/quote] It's a Christmas miracle, by Jove! Seriously though, Congrats on reforming. I read up on a bit of the history here on Planet Bob and you guys went through some serious !@#$ what with The Unjust War and such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Savage Man Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 [quote name='Nonymguy' date='29 April 2010 - 07:27 AM' timestamp='1272540412' post='2279754'] It's a Christmas miracle, by Jove! Seriously though, Congrats on reforming. I read up on a bit of the history here on Planet Bob and you guys went through some serious !@#$ what with The Unjust War and such. [/quote] Heh, thanks. I do hope this goes well for you. This place could use a few new active alliances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poyplemonkeys Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 [quote name='Il Impero Romano' date='28 April 2010 - 06:53 PM' timestamp='1272477185' post='2278622'] Holy crap I swear to admin you people either cant read or just jump so quick at the chance to make a snide remark that you don't read. Read a few pages back, I'm done repeating myself. [/quote] I read it. You said people only need to some talk to you etc. I only asked why you've been at war with a non-existent alliance for roughly 3 years, what it's achieved, what the point of it is. Seems pretty clear to me that it is a different question to the "Will you give them peace now?" that you've already answered, but that could be my reading comprehension again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Impero Romano Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 [quote name='Poyplemonkeys' date='29 April 2010 - 12:46 PM' timestamp='1272541579' post='2279762'] I read it. You said people only need to some talk to you etc. I only asked why you've been at war with a non-existent alliance for roughly 3 years, what it's achieved, what the point of it is. Seems pretty clear to me that it is a different question to the "Will you give them peace now?" that you've already answered, but that could be my reading comprehension again [/quote] Answer seems kinda self evident as, um, they weren't around to give peace to.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonymguy Posted April 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 Can we end this communique yet? This was a Declaration of Existence, not an invitation to a "moral high-ground debate". For Admin-sake, can you leaders pull your heads out of your collective buttocks for 1 day and quit bickering like a bunch of housewives? Uh, don't look at me like that... No, I would not like to see what your nukes look like falling from above... IGNORE the man behind the curtain *hides in a fallout shelter* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USOFAA Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 I think i am going to change my name to hitler, And make a group called the Nazi party.just becuse it sounds like fun today. And we can help sell girl scout cookies, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voytek Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 [quote name='USOFAA' date='29 April 2010 - 11:39 PM' timestamp='1272548341' post='2279829'] I think i am going to change my name to hitler, And make a group called the Nazi party.just becuse it sounds like fun today. And we can help sell girl scout cookies, [/quote] Quality post from a quality member of a quality alliance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejayrazz Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 (edited) [quote name='USOFAA' date='29 April 2010 - 09:39 AM' timestamp='1272548341' post='2279829'] I think i am going to change my name to hitler, And make a group called the Nazi party.just becuse it sounds like fun today. And we can help sell girl scout cookies, [/quote] It's better than posting children porn and mutilated pictures of animals. Edited April 29, 2010 by Ejayrazz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cormalek Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 [quote name='Nonymguy' date='29 April 2010 - 03:03 PM' timestamp='1272546164' post='2279799'] Can we end this communique yet? This was a Declaration of Existence, not an invitation to a "moral high-ground debate". For Admin-sake, can you leaders pull your heads out of your collective buttocks for 1 day and quit bickering like a bunch of housewives? [/quote] Hahaha... Wow, you really don't know us, do you? This thread has probably the most positive vibe and of all current OWF threads. It's kinda' our thing (for reference - see New Gre, Who's tech dealing with Gre, and Is the war eternal ;-P ), hence the unofficial name - The Peanut Gallery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
commander thrawn Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 [quote name='Nonymguy' date='29 April 2010 - 02:03 PM' timestamp='1272546164' post='2279799'] Can we end this communique yet? This was a Declaration of Existence, not an invitation to a "moral high-ground debate". For Admin-sake, can you leaders pull your heads out of your collective buttocks for 1 day and quit bickering like a bunch of housewives? Uh, don't look at me like that... No, I would not like to see what your nukes look like falling from above... IGNORE the man behind the curtain *hides in a fallout shelter* [/quote] Its ok you guys are too small to worry about nukes atm. But... yeah welcome, bickering is what alliance leaders do around here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChairmanHal Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 [quote name='Noob Cake' date='29 April 2010 - 02:08 AM' timestamp='1272521280' post='2279565'] /b/ could very easily deface CN, ruin admin's life IRL, or DDoS CN to death. They have no reason to do the above, so they post CP and gore on main forum, which amounts to nothing much and should be considered mild. /O /b/ [/quote] Blackmail attempts, subtle or otherwise, generally go very, very badly. [i]OOC: Word to the wise and my last on this subject...a significant number of us are adult who have been around on the Internet since before there was a World Wide Web. We've seen everything there is to see. There is nothing left that shocks us, only really annoys us or bores us to no end. Yes, even "2 Girls, 1 Cup" and all the variations. This isn't Haboo. If you must do Haboo-esque like things, go mess up some other browser based game for a while. If you are here to play the game and try to be a little bit serious about it however, then there is room at the gaming table. The choice is yours.[/i] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime minister Johns Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 [quote name='ktarthan' date='27 April 2010 - 03:45 PM' timestamp='1272347086' post='2277044'] Roger. Initiating... "PLAN /B/" [/quote] Normally I hate raiding but in this case I will make an exception. Proceed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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