Olaf Styke

A round of mindless hails on the house, gents, Anarchy Inc. is buying. o/ Anarchy Inc. o/ NPO /o Anti-Gravity

And Anarchy makes another furious leap up the rankings!

I smell a new era of win.

Warning: May contain nuts.

Pretty sure Schatt just leveled up. Hope DH dropped some good loot!

[quote name='D34th' timestamp='1329979609' post='2926335'] [img]http://i41.tinypic.com/9jnjg4.gif[/img] Hey Sparta, remember when I made this sig in PB-NpO/NPO-DH war? Well I hate to say that but, I told you so. For the others alliances who still have treaties with DH I'd like to remember you that a wise man once said: "Wise men learn by other men's mistakes, fools by their own." It's to late for ex-Mj alliances and Sparta, but it's not too late for the rest of you. [/quote] For once, D34th, I agree with you down to the letter.

[quote name='Chris Kaos' timestamp='1329839261' post='2925137'] You're both very wrong, so allow me to correct you. There are three things that made VX go from hero to zero in the eyes of everyone outside of GATO, although those in GATO knew the truth the whole time. 1. SDRD posted a long winded explanation as to why he left GATO and joined NPO, and included logs showing how Vincent Xander asked SDRD to spy on the NPO. This, frankly, was completely ridiculous and entirely a fabrication. Not only was SDRD's post immaculate in its grammar and orthography (which was entirely out of character, as he was German with a rather poor handle on English), claiming a friend helped him write it (more like Philosopher or USBR wrote it for him), but the logs were [i]complete[/i] fabrications. VX and I didn't trust SDRD at all, and we kept a very close eye on him, and if VX had been in need of someone to spy for him, he'd have asked me. 2. VX had a length discussion with Sir Galahad, then-MoFA of the Legion, about how to approach the NPO problem. There was one line in particular where VX said, "Help me hurt the NPO" or something to that effect, by which he meant politically, with propaganda and PR and NOT militarily. These logs were then posted in the general membership area of the Legion by SG, and were promptly leaked to the CN forums. I still can't believe SG had the audacity and balls to claim that the leak came from our end, when literally two people had seen them in GATO--VX and myself. The NPO decided to take it out of context, assign their own meaning, and attack GATO pretty much out of the blue. Those two things were the CB of GWIII, essentially. 3. At this point, VX had served two consecutive terms as AC and couldn't run for a third, so he went for Congress and became Speaker. For those of you who don't know anything about GATO's governmental system, Congress is the legislative body, and from within their ranks, they elect a Speaker, who is first among equals and the general administrator of Congress. VX took it further than that, though, and pushed the limits of what he could do by inserting himself into the peace negotiations, and took a hardline approach with the NPO's negotiators, while Kevlar (the AC at the time), wanted to go a different route. The end result was that the NPO ridiculed him and essentially destroyed his name, and he decided to leave CN after this because the NPO had ruined his fun. That was basically NPO standard operating procedure back then. They delighted in ruining people and alliances. They had no qualms about doing anything in order to win, and there were a lot of people who tried to be genuinely honest and upstanding in CN who just couldn't keep up with the NPO's practices. For those of you who haven't been around long than, let's say, a few months leading up to Karma, you really can't understand how bad they were. MK and friends have tried to be villains, but there's just nothing like vintage NPO villainry. [/quote] Not only was I in GATO when this happened, I was in the government when it happened. I seem to recall his discredit being more the product of his working toward smoothing over relations with NPO/NpO/GOONS in public, and making a big show of it, and then logs were leaked to the effect that he was actually trying to start a war with them (which, I guess, are the forged logs you're talking about). In any case it was obvious horse!@#$ cooked up by NPO, The League was an empty shell, and it had become obvious that NPO's military completely outclassed anyone on our side; The Legion was about to be revealed as the 'Paper Tiger', NAAC had that annoying habit of just throwing themselves head-long in to NpO without any attempt at strategy, and we just couldn't match NPO's stat line, even at 1k nations. In any case, NPO may have been bad back then, but I do not remember them being anywhere near as bad as MK is now.

I... I love you TTK. There, I said it ;_;

I remember VX. It's been a few years now, but I seem to remember him being forced to resign from the Chairmanship in disgrace after some logs were leaked that proved him to be a rather more insidious character than any of us had surmised. I don't remember exactly what though. He certainly wouldn't have gotten my vote if I'd known he was the two-faced snake he turned out to be. Didn't know Grenval well enough to know weather VX = Grenval is a plausible assertion, though.

[quote name='Crymson' timestamp='1329732673' post='2924487'] If Sparta is seeking a spokesperson for itself to speak in this topic, then I suggest that they find themselves somebody not quite so staggeringly foolish as you are. [/quote] Coming from you, that's practically a complement. Roq is speaking for us for the moment, I'm just here to enjoy the ride and, on occasion, clarify things.

Brehon, Letum, you have my assurances, as well as those of the rest of the government (the non-Roq portion of it) that Sparta has no intention now, or in the future of engaging in any acts of hostility or subversion (military or otherwise) directed at the New Pacific Order. Just for the record. Edit: Crymson, is that your way of threatening us with 'consequences'? The 'consequences' of calling CN's attention to MK & Co.'s blatant abuses? No good deed goes unpunished.

[quote name='Banksy' timestamp='1329602343' post='2923564'] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/IJfkC.gif[/IMG] Wow good argument! [/quote] Since you're apparently unfamiliar with the word, I've enclosed a link to a Dictionary article that will help you avoid this mistake in future. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/argument No need to thank me, pay it forward.

[quote name='Londo Mollari' timestamp='1329626138' post='2923819'] You know in the real world blackmail is a crime. If MK chooses to apply that reasoning here Sparta just may get plowed unless they disown you. I think you are the one who shouldn't play with fire. [/quote] Please, teach us a lesson. Put up or shut up.

An analysis of the motives for posting this thread: DESPARATION An analysis of the merits of Londo's argument: NONE Delete already.

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[quote name='itseZe' timestamp='1329357908' post='2921427'] Lucky for us then that we do not follow a concept such as monarchy, but that our elected leaders simply follow the will of the General Assembly. Come on, as a former member you should know how we operate internally. [/quote] Yes, I do know, and the irony is that ODN's government is more rigid and impermeable than Sparta's. Remember all that horse!@#$ you guys were shoveling us mid-war about how the decision to attack XX didn't represent the will of the GA, and that ODN was really with us? Now you're telling me the elected leaders follow the will of the GA... There is a word for this... Hip... Hipo... I'll get back to you on that.

[quote name='Stewie' timestamp='1329324075' post='2921082'] I didn't say it wasn't an alliance. I said that it had no OTPs. Therefore is "unaligned". [/quote] I hear FAN is unaligned, I bet they have lots of tech...

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[quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1329300072' post='2920994'] Leet Guy for WLE 2012. [/quote] Where's your sense of patriotism? I'm not out of the running yet...

[quote name='Bob Ilyani' timestamp='1329311076' post='2921032'] The better question is, are you actually going to show some sort of proof that we spied or are you just going to continue to talk out of your rear end without backing it up? I mean, I know it's a consistent trait of yours, but there might as well be a point where you need to back your words up.[/quote] MK asked for the same thing... I wouldn't want to be in their position right now.

[quote name='Beefspari' timestamp='1329310270' post='2921026']That's fair. There are plenty of policies I consider stupid. You're free to think this is stupid, I'm free to think protecting an entire sphere of unaligned is stupid, someone else is free to think that secret treaties are stupid. That's not the debate topic though. The discussion is about if this "changes" things or "sets the bar." It doesn't. [img]http://meru.xfury.net/images/aeris/aerisdisL11.jpg[/img] [/quote] Since when is a member of an alliance of 2 million NS considered 'unaligned'?

[quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1329226686' post='2920239'] OsRavan knows what the right thing to do is. I wish he would just do it. [/quote] Os wouldn't know the 'right thing' if it crawled down his throat. If ODN's conduct has proven anything it's that their leadership has about as good a grip on what is just or ethical as MK. Fitting, considering how long they've had their noses up MK's ass.

Nice new high-res screens, Roq. Now I can watch MK fail in high-definition.

[quote name='Beefspari' timestamp='1329245878' post='2920457'] NG raiding an alliance doesn't "set the bar" on who can be raided. GOONs has a similar policy in that we have a numeric rule for alliance size but can throw that out the window if we want. Different alliances have different rules on what can be raided. If you don't like it then the good news is you don't have to follow NG's example. They could raid GPA if they wanted; it might not be a good idea, but it doesn't mean the entire world goes to chaos if they do. Trying to claim this is going to be the new standard is just nonsense. [img]http://meru.xfury.net/images/aeris/aerisdisL3.jpg[/img] [/quote] The fact that it isn't new doesn't make it any less palatable. It's a !@#$ policy either way.

[quote name='Banksy' timestamp='1329022226' post='2918847'] Honestly these responses are so tedious. You just posted that you were having difficulty communicating with NG over the issue which led to your OP (i.e. you are in the dark) and then you lash out at someone for being ignorant. OOC: LET NO ONE BESMIRCH THE HONOUR OF MY INTERNET POLITICAL SIMULATOR ROLEPLAYING ALLIANCE WITH ONE LINERS. [/quote] Yes, communication problems and ignorance... same thing. You keep at it, slugger, we all know you're trying.