Lord of Destruction Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 (edited) You think white peace is fair after suckerpunching and then dogpiling on TPF? Now you will share their suffering. I think white peace is fair, considering that whichever side loses will likely have to pay ridiculous amounts in reparations to those who win. Edited January 2, 2010 by Lord of Destruction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The AUT Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 even Zenith stated it was TPF who rejected it. not Athens/CO....... as for war, i am down for it. always have been. So? Any idea how much damage TPF has sustained? Athens declared on TPF before even talking to them, TPF at least had the courtesty of outright rejecting them. I respect you, Doch. But honestly, we all knew what the result ultimately would be. The side stuff is just an attempt to grab some PR before heading into the biggest Great War CN has ever seen. I wish you all a good fight, heaven knows this planet needs it. And to the GPA, I know you're update blitzing WTF and TDO don't hide it I can see it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulmar Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 (edited) even Zenith stated it was TPF who rejected it. not Athens/CO....... as for war, i am down for it. always have been. No, not what I said. I said that TPF had told us peace talks were not working out and that they had ended, not that they rejected them. I was not involved in peace talks and do not know what went down. Edited January 2, 2010 by Sulmar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dochartaigh Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 So? Any idea how much damage TPF has sustained? Athens declared on TPF before even talking to them, TPF at least had the courtesty of outright rejecting them.I respect you, Doch. But honestly, we all knew what the result ultimately would be. The side stuff is just an attempt to grab some PR before heading into the biggest Great War CN has ever seen. I wish you all a good fight, heaven knows this planet needs it. And to the GPA, I know you're update blitzing WTF and TDO don't hide it I can see it! AUT- i knew it was coming to war sooner or later. i am gonna have a blast. i am just stating a fact, that the so-called Coincidence Coalition is full of a bunch of hypocrites who hold others to standards they seemingly refuse to hold for themselves. sorry, but if ya'll ain't gonna hold yourselves to those standards, ya'll should not have been preaching it for days now. also have fun AUT. sad to see you on the other side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ch33kY Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 To random coincidences. And coalitions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V The King Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 Wait. You stopped this many alliances from upholding their treaties for one guy? One guy? I don't know LM that well, but can he walk on water or something? Seriously just hit peace mode for a few days. I'm calling shenanigans unless LM is the only person that is capable of preparing TOP for war, and even that would be pretty embarrassing. LM's request was a reasonable one, for his image wound up representing those nation leaders who were unable to lead their people to war. OOC: I am sure you are aware that a lot of people go poof around New Year's day...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathias Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 LM's request was a reasonable one, for his image wound up representing those nation leaders who were unable to lead their people to war. OOC: I am sure you are aware that a lot of people go poof around New Year's day...? TPF wasn't attacked on New Year's Day, or New Year's Eve for that matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentkiller Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 AUT- i knew it was coming to war sooner or later. i am gonna have a blast. i am just stating a fact, that the so-called Coincidence Coalition is full of a bunch of hypocrites who hold others to standards they seemingly refuse to hold for themselves. sorry, but if ya'll ain't gonna hold yourselves to those standards, ya'll should not have been preaching it for days now. also have fun AUT. sad to see you on the other side. Yeah white peace with an admission of guilt. But the TPF side feels that TPF has done nothing wrong since they surrendered and rejected the terms. Your point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derwood1 Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 OMG, Ivan you have a competitor for the biggest Ego on Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingClassRuler Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 I'm not entirely sure what rational you could use to justify white peace after this fiasco. I mean, unless you reached into the dark days of CN wherein white peace was offered with an add on "Or we could just continue to grind you into the ground...your choice". No, instead they amassed all of this political power just to hit 20 something nations. Woo. Peace was on the table and quickly rejected because there was a shiny list of alliances who wanted to DoW with their pretty flags. I wasn't in the discussions for peace but if Athens and co were willing to call this fiasco to an end, and all of these alliances gathered to support TPF (impressively, I must add), then this Coalition had the power and the opportunity to stop this ridiculously stupid war. If we had truly learnt anything from those dark days of CN, then they would have taken that opportunity. If the only argument is "well Athens didn't use diplomacy when they first attacked", then it's a failure of the Coalition to be the bigger man and use the diplomacy that their opposition could not. That's nothing to be proud of. So let's call this for what it truly is, dispense with all the !@#$%^&* semantics and just conclude that everyone wanted a war, so they got one. *shrug* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nizzle Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 wait wha? Athens and Co were defending Athens from an aggressive action by TPF. even after that, TPF was offered white peace. i have no clue what you are even getting at..... if all those on the opposite side truly felt diplomacy and the non-escalation of this war was the way to go, then they failed horribly when TPF rejected white peace in order to escalate this war. but like i said before i am down for war. at least i won't be bored while on break. You presume that TPF believed they took an aggressive action, as has been discussed over and over. I'm sure in the noCB War white peace would not have been acceptable to those alliances who felt they were unjustly attacked, thus one side had to come out dominant. If you really want to talk about diplomacy, and not the presentation of white peace to save face and avoid a larger war, you should inquire why this entire issue was resolved without the declaration of war on TPF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omfghi2u2 Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 And yet NO ONE declared on RoK. What? Strategy? Oh sure sure. -omfg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nizzle Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 And yet NO ONE declared on RoK. What? Strategy? Oh sure sure.-omfg Yeah. Strategy. Sort of like why two large alliances would rather fight through proxies rather then go head to head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooksland Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 No, instead they amassed all of this political power just to hit 20 something nations. Woo. Peace was on the table and quickly rejected because there was a shiny list of alliances who wanted to DoW with their pretty flags. I wasn't in the discussions for peace but if Athens and co were willing to call this fiasco to an end, and all of these alliances gathered to support TPF (impressively, I must add), then this Coalition had the power and the opportunity to stop this ridiculously stupid war. If we had truly learnt anything from those dark days of CN, then they would have taken that opportunity. If the only argument is "well Athens didn't use diplomacy when they first attacked", then it's a failure of the Coalition to be the bigger man and use the diplomacy that their opposition could not. That's nothing to be proud of. So let's call this for what it truly is, dispense with all the !@#$%^&* semantics and just conclude that everyone wanted a war, so they got one. *shrug* Ding, ding, ding..... we have a winner. One thing that hasn't changed since the "dark days of CN" is that everyone wants a war (when they assume they will win the war) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wickedj Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 And yet NO ONE declared on RoK. What? Strategy? Oh sure sure.-omfg ohnoez wez afraid of teh big bad Polar bears. if you wanted to avoid Polar you shouldve JUST hit Athens....has anyone kept track of the number of fails this "Coalition" has comitted thus far? fairly certian we're in double digits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V The King Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 TPF wasn't attacked on New Year's Day, or New Year's Eve for that matter. OOC: "Around" New Year's Day, which would obviously include one or two days prior to the event. >Athens declares war on the 27th; earliest dates for counter attack are either 28th or 29th What if... >Counter attack comes on the 29th >A day later some people go missing, the following one even more go missing >??? >Not profitable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfox101 Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 Traitor to the cause, Liquid. You will as soon turn on this coalition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoppistan Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 so let me get this straight. ya'll !@#$%*, whine, and moan about no diplomacy being used but when it happens you DoW? to top that off, TPF rejects white peace while none of their allies use diplomacy to resolve this situation and in fact reject it completely in order to launch attacks? heh. hypocrisy continues unabated it seems. it seems ya'll never wanted diplomacy at all as can be seen by TPF rejecting a white peace. congrats on coming over to the dark side. How's that hangover? Besides, they had plenty of time to offer peace, all the comments from Athens and her allies made it perfectly clear that they wanted only war. This "oh we were offering white peace" just before retaliation started is nothing but a coward's ploy to escape their crimes. It's despicable that they even tried to pull this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earogema Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 You presume that TPF believed they took an aggressive action, as has been discussed over and over. I'm sure in the noCB War white peace would not have been acceptable to those alliances who felt they were unjustly attacked, thus one side had to come out dominant.If you really want to talk about diplomacy, and not the presentation of white peace to save face and avoid a larger war, you should inquire why this entire issue was resolved without the declaration of war on TPF. Er, what? I'm sure almost ALL alliances in NoCB would have rather gotten white peace compared to the terms they got. Vox didn't even get any terms itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiCkO Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 finally got to put my video up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earogema Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 How's that hangover?Besides, they had plenty of time to offer peace, all the comments from Athens and her allies made it perfectly clear that they wanted only war. This "oh we were offering white peace" just before retaliation started is nothing but a coward's ploy to escape their crimes. It's despicable that they even tried to pull this. You're kidding right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentkiller Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 No, instead they amassed all of this political power just to hit 20 something nations. Woo. Peace was on the table and quickly rejected because there was a shiny list of alliances who wanted to DoW with their pretty flags. I wasn't in the discussions for peace but if Athens and co were willing to call this fiasco to an end, and all of these alliances gathered to support TPF (impressively, I must add), then this Coalition had the power and the opportunity to stop this ridiculously stupid war. If we had truly learnt anything from those dark days of CN, then they would have taken that opportunity. If the only argument is "well Athens didn't use diplomacy when they first attacked", then it's a failure of the Coalition to be the bigger man and use the diplomacy that their opposition could not. That's nothing to be proud of. So let's call this for what it truly is, dispense with all the !@#$%^&* semantics and just conclude that everyone wanted a war, so they got one. *shrug* The terms werent just white peace(which in itself is ridiculous considering that TPF's side of the war believes the cb is bs) but also an admission of guilt. Now diplomacy can be done while both sides are losing pixels rather than TPF alone. seems only fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nizzle Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 Er, what? I'm sure almost ALL alliances in NoCB would have rather gotten white peace compared to the terms they got. Vox didn't even get any terms itself. Barely one war cycle into the war? I highly doubt it. It was a silly question to ask, though, because of course it would do them good to claim now that they would have wanted white peace after 6 or 7 days. Darn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infidel Israeli Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 Pathetic. Reasons already given. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathias Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 OOC: "Around" New Year's Day, which would obviously include one or two days prior to the event.>Athens declares war on the 27th; earliest dates for counter attack are either 28th or 29th What if... >Counter attack comes on the 29th >A day later some people go missing, the following one even more go missing >??? >Not profitable The OP says that the coalition put their declarations on hold (even though they really wanted to! ) because of LiquidMercury. Just LiquidMercury. Now I could understand the strategy of waiting until people are back from the holidays to attack, but when you say that an entire coalition of people who wanted to come to TPF's defense let them be beaten to a pulp because of one guy, I'm calling shenanigans. If you're going to try to spin the delay, say it was purely strategic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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