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[quote name='KaitlinK' timestamp='1299776174' post='2658593'] Ragnarok has never, and will never, cancel a treaty on command. In our entire history, we have not once canceled a treaty because someone told us to and we are not going to start now. It was not an easy decision to make and was done with a heavy heart, but given the circumstances, it was the right one. [/quote] Are you sure about that? You were in TPF at the time that it happened.... if you can remember But either way I wish Rok all the luck in this decision. An alliance is suppose to be sovereign and I respect Roks every right to be so.

[quote name='Dochartaigh' timestamp='1293226660' post='2552920'] honestly, i tip my hat to those joining NEW for friendship as that is what true friendship is. i think i have been clear that i don't think NEW was ever in the right with their raid on DF but those joining NEW have shown true friendship and loyalty. On the flip side, FARK really did not bite off more than it could chew. Those joining were probably not accounted for during the backroom deal set up between FARK/Int/TPE and PC/iFOK. thus, them getting people to join their ranks is only fair. they may have NEW by NS technically but if NEW is outnumbering them in upper NS, then i don't see the issue. you joined expecting to take damage but to complain that FARK is using a similar tactic by getting nations to join them as you and others did with NEW is hypocritical. [/quote] I don't think anyone is complaining that FARK is using that tactic, I just wanted to point the difference. That we came because we wanted to and did so without being asked, while FARK is actively recruiting and asking nations/alliances to help them out. Although if we were complaining about them using that tactic, I would agree with you that it is hypothetical. Now it is up to PC/iFOK to decide if what FARK is doing is allowing outsiders to bandwagon in or not by openly inviting them to join in the fight by ghosting their AA (and before you say it, those of us who joined NEW are now NEW members and registered on their forums and everything.) [quote name='Hyperion321' timestamp='1293227965' post='2552939'] Because Fark really expected PC to take advantage of their kindness right? This is underhanded manipulation of an agreement in good faith, and these rogues will be beaten to a pulp for it. [/quote] Take advantage of their kindness? Fark should be thankful for PC's kindness that they decided to let them get away with hitting NEW in the first place. But I love how Fark and now friends are through around the "rogue" word to classify us who are defending our friends. They did not think so before, but now that it has became too much for Fark to handle we have been deemed "rogues" to justify them to seek out allies to "attack the rogues". Classy.

[quote name='Zoomzoomzoom' timestamp='1293222233' post='2552823'] NEW have welcomed us into their ranks on their forum and IRC private channel. As far as I am concerned I expect to be treated like any other FARK member especially considering FARK are now using the same tactics to recruit nations into their ranks to combat us. [/quote] Zoom I think you mean "treated like any other NEW* member" But you are wrong here, what we have done by joining NEW, to defend our friends, is very different then the tactic FARK is trying to utilize. We decided to help our friends against a curb stomp, we all decided to join NEW on our own accords without anyone in NEW even approaching us. FARK, instead, is actively recruiting nations to join their ranks because they ended up biting off too much then they can chew. Since PC and iFOK are preventing FARK from bringing in other alliances to bail out their upper tier, they have resorted to begging anyone/everyone they think will send nations over to save their 100K+ NS nations.

[quote name='sigelopisan' timestamp='1292858228' post='2546565'] Well General, I still have to believe that "today PC" is still have some spirit from the "old PC". Things are changes along with time goes by. They might had lost it somewhere. The friendship is forever General. But the paper, I'm not sure. You (and most of PC founders) taught us that, remember? [/quote] It is sad that most of the "old PC" are very inactive now-a-days. But trust me, we still remember. PS. HAI! JBone, thanks for the shootout!

this thread is fail... because this announcement is around 2 years too late. P.S. NEW you have some work to do Average PC land = 2,269 Average NEW land = 1,027 And you call yourself raiders?

[quote name='HalfEmpty' date='10 April 2010 - 04:48 PM' timestamp='1270936083' post='2255827'] Congratulations. I advise an immediate NAP for all interested. Hai Pookey! Hai Twisty! Hai Stocker... you still owe me 6 million BTW. [/quote] Hai Halfy! You can have Stocker's 6 million when JBone gives me my 15 million + 250 tech, sound good? But now that CN is no longer at war, I think everyone needs to go around and start signing NAPs to make things more interesting

This document is NOT official. Signed for Poison Clan Pooksland - The Centipede Now it is

o/ PC Down with FOK.... oh wait... down with UCN

Good post, although you know it will accomplish nothing since they are too stubborn in their moral crusade to accept anything else but their own self-righteousness

I would agree with you, that is if you want to define allies as being blind, mindless meat-shields that you are allowed to manipulate for your own benefit without taking your "ally" into account. For some reason I don't think it will take long for NEW to recover from this image nor find new allies incase their current ones decide to drop them (although that would be incredibly stupid). IMHO I would rank NEW in the top 3 of alliances I would want to have a treaty with (hai FOK )

These replies in this thread has been hilarious, if anyone actually knows NEW, you know they will back an ally no matter the odds (in almost all situations). But why don't you guys step off your apparent moral high horse and look at the consequences for NEW. They are an alliance that plays the game as it should be, and that is as a game. They enjoy tech raiding and are never scared about shooting off a few nukes and in return taking some for a friend. But if NpO ends up winning this war, then Grub will take it as validation of him anointed the moral police chief. Who knows how he will try to dictate tech raiding in the future. So why would NEW help fight for a cause that a) they don't believe in and b) directly affects their game play in a negative way? Knowing NEW I am sure they will be there to help their allies after this war, win or lose. By seeing the lack of NEWs allies posting in this thread I am sure they already know this, but NEWs allies should be good allies themselves and understand the complication that this has put NEW through. I am sure this is a one time occurrence of NEW not following their treaties to the T. o/ NEW

As long as you are also lying in the hospital bed down the hall. Thought you could \m/ug an innocent alliance and get away with it scratch free and make it profitable? Not when the PC world police are around.

Fist Pump Global warming may be melting the Polars, but not to worry nuclear winter will freeze it back up

You are right, this is funny. Thanks for the laugh. Seriously if you are trying to play the "tactics" card, how is twarting the oppositions main strategy not tactical?

Ding, ding, ding..... we have a winner. One thing that hasn't changed since the "dark days of CN" is that everyone wants a war (when they assume they will win the war)