applesauce59 Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 Well, TSC went through the motions of posting a Recognition of War with Sengoku and Umbrella. I suppose one could say we are returning the favor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frawley Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 Three reasons for the inclusion of the relevant treaties in the OP.Firstly, we had not explicitly clarified our position on the Sandstorm Confederacy as of yet, and secondly that they provided specific exemption for Pacifica in the Recognition of Hostilities posted in regards to Umbrella and Sengoku.Given that, and the fact that the same treaties were used by Sengoku and Umbrella in their respective DoW's it would follow that this is simply a recognition of a preexisting fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scourge Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 Three reasons for the inclusion of the relevant treaties in the OP.Firstly, we had not explicitly clarified our position on the Sandstorm Confederacy as of yet, and secondly that they provided specific exemption for Pacifica in the Recognition of Hostilities posted in regards to Umbrella and Sengoku.Given that, and the fact that the same treaties were used by Sengoku and Umbrella in their respective DoW's it would follow that this is simply a recognition of a preexisting fact. Now we can all return to our regularly scheduled bloodbath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autosave36 Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 Pillowfort Pacifica Prevails Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dre4mwe4ver Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 New Pacific Order Declaration of War In accordance with the "I'm Afraid I Just Blue Myself - The Are You My Cousin? Accords" and the "Everything. Must. Die. WAR Pact", the New Pacific Order hereby declares war on The Sandstorm Confederacy in support of it's allies in Sengoku and Umbrella.Letum,Emperor of the New Pacific OrderDungeon Master of OrderFrawley,Imperial Regent of the New Pacific OrderLord of Darkness,Imperial Officer of Military Affairs of the New Pacific Order Three reasons for the inclusion of the relevant treaties in the OP.Firstly, we had not explicitly clarified our position on the Sandstorm Confederacy as of yet, and secondly that they provided specific exemption for Pacifica in the Recognition of Hostilities posted in regards to Umbrella and Sengoku.Given that, and the fact that the same treaties were used by Sengoku and Umbrella in their respective DoW's it would follow that this is simply a recognition of a preexisting fact. "The New Pacific Order hereby declares war" doesn't look an awful lot like "simply a recognition of a preexisting fact." Word to the wise would be to pick one story and stick to it. I recommend the OP that has those proud signatures from your government attached, but I can see how the fact that it's contradictory to everything else your coalition is attempting to claim as true makes it the less than preferable choice, so the attempts to lawyer yourself out of this one is understandable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 So therfore those attacks were aggressive attacks. Umbrella(the first ones in) attacked following Veracity's declaration on Hakora in anticipation of a full TSC counter on NPO later on that night. It ended up being preemptive but not by design and given TSC's admission of an eventual likely entry, was justified. TSC was forthright about it and they have my respect for that, but don't try to spin this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frawley Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 "The New Pacific Order hereby declares war" doesn't look an awful lot like "simply a recognition of a preexisting fact." Word to the wise would be to pick one story and stick to it. I recommend the OP that has those proud signatures from your government attached, but I can see how the fact that it's contradictory to everything else your coalition is attempting to claim as true makes it the less than preferable choice, so the attempts to lawyer yourself out of this one is understandable. Pacifica has not actively pursued any hostilities with TSC to date, from now on we shall. Various justifications aside, the purpose of this announcement is to clarify in exact terms the current status of NPO-TSC relations. It was kept short and simple to accomplish that purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 ... Because of the 20+ alliances engaged offensively, offensive coalition discipline will be poor, communication will continually fail and staggers will be repeatedly blown. This is the Law of Method and Disipline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redarmy Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 O/ TSC. Clearly you scared the big dogs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leftbehind Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 ... Because of the 20+ alliances engaged offensively, offensive coalition discipline will be poor, communication will continually fail and staggers will be repeatedly blown. This is the Law of Method and Disipline. The more you say it doesn't make it true you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2BKs Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 My full respect to TSC!! Although being on opposite sides I can say TSC has consistently proved capable to fight back and fight good! <3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dre4mwe4ver Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 Pacifica has not actively pursued any hostilities with TSC to date, from now on we shall. Various justifications aside, the purpose of this announcement is to clarify in exact terms the current status of NPO-TSC relations. It was kept short and simple to accomplish that purpose.If it were meant to serve that purpose, then I'm not sure if it was too short, too simple, or not enough of each, as the "exact terms" of "the current status of NPO-TSC relations" is now by Imperial Decree: "the New Pacific Order hereby declares war on The Sandstorm Confederacy." Thank you for the clarification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King William Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 Simply, "Pacifica is currently at war with TSC."If you want to trigger, or not trigger some peoples treaties or feelings, that's for people who worry about technicalities to handle.You two are at war, and I understand why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IYIyTh Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 Well of the things you could have done this is definitely one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shavar Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 Prior to this announcement Sandstorm did not consider itself at war with NPO, however there is no reason to play e-lawyer here, just sit back and enjoy the casualties. Maybe I can get my hopes up and hit 5m before this war ends.. If I stay in anarchy do me a favor and keep my slots full Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walshington Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 This DoW represents one of two things: Unnecessary piling on -- in which case, good luck, Sandstorm! OR Necessary piling on -- in which case, nice work Sandstorm! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warrior Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 The more you say it doesn't make it true you know. Just makes everyone hate him more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrash Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 Prior to this announcement Sandstorm did not consider itself at war with NPO, however there is no reason to play e-lawyer here, just sit back and enjoy the casualties. Maybe I can get my hopes up and hit 5m before this war ends.. If I stay in anarchy do me a favor and keep my slots full Thanks shavar :wub: im hoping for 7 mil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Janova Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 Is this the first instance of a pre-emptive strike resulting in the alliance that was originally going to be attacked, but wasn't due to the pre-empt, then oAing in on the treaties that were used to justify the pre-empt? CN e-lawyering has got even more confusing since I left, apparently! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty of the Herm Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 Prior to this announcement Sandstorm did not consider itself at war with NPO, however there is no reason to play e-lawyer here, just sit back and enjoy the casualties. Maybe I can get my hopes up and hit 5m before this war ends.. If I stay in anarchy do me a favor and keep my slots full Thanks Considering yourself at war with us and being at war with us are two very different things you were originally declared on because some of your nations attacked us. So as we have been asked to take a more active role in your hostile action against us by our allies. We are doing so here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruler the White Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 Considering yourself at war with us and being at war with us are two very different things you were originally declared on because some of your nations attacked us. So as we have been asked to take a more active role in your hostile action against us by our allies. We are doing so here. I don't really have a dog in this fight, but if the CN wiki is to be believed, if was only one nation that hit NPO. There was/is currently one nation from the CCC hitting Polaris, for a reason we can only guess. (noobishness, confusion of the NPO/NpO acronym, etc.) If one nation a war makes, I am expecting, at the very least, a Polaris counter on the CCC tonight, if not a DoW from XX. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Chocolate Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 :salute: Best wishes. My full respect to TSC!! Although being on opposite sides I can say TSC has consistently proved capable to fight back and fight good! <3 High praise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 I don't really have a dog in this fight, but if the CN wiki is to be believed, if was only one nation that hit NPO. There was/is currently one nation from the CCC hitting Polaris, for a reason we can only guess. (noobishness, confusion of the NPO/NpO acronym, etc.) If one nation a war makes, I am expecting, at the very least, a Polaris counter on the CCC tonight, if not a DoW from XX. It's not all we went on. Initially, we thought it might just be the one, but we scouted some of the other nations and they showed some signs of preparation for a military movement. Some were in Communist for instance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurthwaite Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 Overkill? Or just to much awesome coming from sandstorm for them to handle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruler the White Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 It's not all we went on. Initially, we thought it might just be the one, but we scouted some of the other nations and they showed some signs of preparation for a military movement. Some were in Communist for instance. My mistake. The evidence was clearly overwhelming. Carry on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.