Londo Mollari Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Well boys time to spend your warchests on infra. If this is the competition I doubt we'll need them, we can live off the cash we raid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memoryproblems Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Krashnaia' timestamp='1322785160' post='2858653'] Congratz to both alliances o/ USN o/ RIA BTW, a MDP doesn't means that if party A is attacked, party B must inmediatley declare on their agressors. It means that if party A is attacked [u]AND[/u] he requests party B to counter, party B must comply. Notice the fact that, since no one at NpO complaints about RIA, NpO is likely to NOT have asked RIA to enter the conflict, yet. Of course, do not let facts stop your trolling. The OWF would be a very boring place if you do so. [/quote] Actually, it depends on the way the treaty was written. I believe that was the conclusion of the 6m war when NSO asked their allies to stay out and SF cried foul saying "no, you can't do that!". Some treaties use the words "as requested", others say that they have to defend them and make no mention on if its requested or not. I haven't read this treaty or the RIA-NpO treaty enough to know how they are written, but thought I'd point out the obvious flaw in your logic before I forget about it. Edited December 2, 2011 by memoryproblems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drai Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 The tides have turned, !@#$. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varianz Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Hahahahahahahaha Seriously? You don't even honor the treaties you have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porksaber Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 An alliance I don't like treaties some alliance I've never heard of. Boring. somebody should start a war or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan V Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 [quote name='Krashnaia' timestamp='1322785160' post='2858653'] BTW, a MDP doesn't means that if party A is attacked, party B must inmediatley declare on their agressors. It means that if party A is attacked [u]AND[/u] he requests party B to counter, party B must comply. Notice the fact that, since no one at NpO complaints about RIA, NpO is likely to NOT have asked RIA to enter the conflict, yet. [/quote] Ladies and gentlemen, may I present to you e-Lawyering at its finest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buds The Man Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 (edited) Are you !@#$@#$ kidding me. USN really, RIA why not just go sign a !@#$@#$ treaty with UPN. I could give two !@#$% about the current situation this treaty makes me sick. I know RIA is an honorable alliance and they must have a damn good reason but why stoop to this. Hell why not just let them back in to CA. Edited December 2, 2011 by Buds The Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AugustHeimmsmeyer Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 [quote name='chefjoe' timestamp='1322783020' post='2858613'] So you guys both know how to [b]sign[/b] treaties, to bad the knowledge of how to [b]honor[/b] treaties is lacking. [/quote] this man sums up my thought exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsoxbronco1 Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 At least you didn't do a fake DoW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jgoods45 Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 [quote name='Buds The Man' timestamp='1322798458' post='2858902'] Are you !@#$@#$ kidding me. USN really why not just go sign a !@#$@#$ treaty with UPN. I could give two !@#$% about the current situation this treaty makes me sick. I know RIA is an honorable alliance and they must have a damn good reason but why stoop to this. Hell why not just let them back in to CA. [/quote] They already have a treaty with UPN. Two in fact! http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=28624 (UPN - USN MDoAP) http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=102361 (Sentinel - MDoAP Bloc with UPN, USN, Menotah, GDA) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buds The Man Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 [quote name='Jgoods45' timestamp='1322799820' post='2858940'] They already have a treaty with UPN. Two in fact! http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=28624 (UPN - USN MDoAP) http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=102361 (Sentinel - MDoAP Bloc with UPN, USN, Menotah, GDA) [/quote] was talking about RIA so i edited it. I knew about USN UPN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Ilyani Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 [quote name='Buds The Man' timestamp='1322801976' post='2858986'] was talking about RIA so i edited it. I knew about USN UPN [/quote] Really, it's about the only way their ally list could get any worse than it is now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcrews Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Why would anyone sign a treaty with RIA its like monopoly money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Buscemi Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Wow, awful timing and just a huge fail coming from Polar's side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockz Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 USN, I commend you for signing this ODP. Its not like you expected RIA to honor any MDP+ you would have signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
603Redneck Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 i like how in the title he states "not a DoW" like we didnt know that already........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Brandon Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 This belongs in a museum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emphix Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 This treaty here is like an unfunny joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 [quote name='Leet Guy' timestamp='1322785424' post='2858657'] Ladies and gentlemen, CSN. I'm saving this one. Edit: IC [/quote] [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=105867"]Why, precisely?[/url] [quote name='Omniscient1' timestamp='1322786628' post='2858675'] Wouldn't it just be easier to bump them up to Chestnut Accords? [/quote] I'm assuming you know their history and how silly that just made you sound. Were you serious, or am I missing something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krashnaia Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 [quote name='Locke' timestamp='1322818947' post='2859262'] [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=105867"]Why, precisely?[/url][/quote] Oh, MK and double standards! really? Now, if NpO had [b]complained at all[/b] about RIA, I'd understand the spamming against RIA. But NpO has shown to be perfectly comfortable with RIA. If MK doesn't like it, too bad. RIA signed with NpO, not with MK, and will enter the war when requested by NpO, not when requested by MK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauty Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Dis so sexeh. o/ USN o/ RIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leet Guy Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Locke' timestamp='1322818947' post='2859262'] [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=105867"]Why, precisely?[/url] [/quote] Because, let me point out exactly how it was explained by Krashnaia: [quote name='Krashnaia' timestamp='1322785160' post='2858653'] BTW, a MDP [/quote] This was to imply that all MDP's function this way, when I can assure you many of the MDP's I know of do not have any sort of silly request clause. We try to completely avoid the Polaris RDoAP. Edit: Yes, I'm aware there treaty [i]does[/i] have the request clause. However, in a line two previous to the request clause, the treaty also says that if attacked it is to be considered a valid CB, and action [i]must[/i] be taken. This contradiction of terminology has yet to be sufficiently addressed by either government. Edited December 2, 2011 by Leet Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proxian Empire Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Very nice treaty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laslo Kenez Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Krashnaia' timestamp='1322825066' post='2859303'] Oh, MK and double standards! really? Now, if NpO had [b]complained at all[/b] about RIA, I'd understand the spamming against RIA. But NpO has shown to be perfectly comfortable with RIA. If MK doesn't like it, too bad. RIA signed with NpO, not with MK, and will enter the war when requested by NpO, not when requested by MK. [/quote] What a cowardly bunch both must be, to hide their fear of failure behind clauses and catches. They may well enter the war when and if requested by NpO, but it will be without any dignity or self-respect at this rate, having made a mockery of the words "mutual defense". Edited December 2, 2011 by Laslo Kenez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMC123 Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Of course NpO isn't going to complain about RIA, at least not on here. It is bad form, cannot be good for FA, and will pretty much eliminate any remaining chance of RIA entering the war on NpO's behalf. Don't be silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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