Bob Ilyani Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 [quote name='USMC123' timestamp='1318269584' post='2822322'] So incompetent we had a general plan for the whole war laid out before these logs even took place? Yeah !@#$ changes and various people have issues so certain things change. I definitely wouldn't call that incompetent though. [/quote] If I can elaborate a little, my specific point about incompetence referred to non-Tetris alliances backing out of said plan at a most inconvenient timeframe. I won't go into specifics because the issues themselves are long gone, but needless to say it wasn't some sort of stroke of masterful planning... let's say that the less strategic-minded members of the channel were pretty damn successful at !@#$@#$ things up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varianz Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 Coalitions: fun for the whole family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wickedj Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 old news. go attention whore elsewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sardonic Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 NSO, what did I tell you about getting involved with dumb coalition channels after the WCE incident :colbert:. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT Jag Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 (edited) Clearly, only PB should be allowed to run coalition channels We're the only ones competent enough not to screw it up. Edited October 10, 2011 by JT Jag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Smurf Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 I hate to defend the coalition setting up stuff against us, but honestly you have (at most) 5% of the logs I'm sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Cyvole Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 (edited) [quote name='USMC123' timestamp='1318260575' post='2822252'] If the screenshots Hereno posted on OWF were a valid CB (also considering their content), wouldn't this be even a greater one? Now, at this point the logs are incredibly out of date and totally irrelevant, but he did the act AND posted. [/quote] Now perhaps I'm just a little uninformed since I didn't look into the CB much after realizing everyone involved were asshats anyways and didn't really care, but from what I understood the matter at hand was that Tetris had a spy with a great deal of access to the Legion forums, not so much the content leaked. Aggravated, of course, by the fact that the leaks were with the sole purpose of hurting Legion's image (why anyone pre-war would think their image needed hurting is beyond me). In this case, you have one set of logs with very little in terms of actual important content (as in the Tetris case) but coming from a source invited into your coalition channel for under two hours and only being able to access this little convo. See the difference? Now, there's always the possibility that I made some assumptions, presumptions, or leaps of logical faith in my knowledge of the two events. But even then, you're all still asshats so, eh. Edited October 10, 2011 by Lord Cyvole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potato Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 Why would you try and lecture anyone since you don't even know the basic details? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMC123 Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 [quote name='Lord Cyvole' timestamp='1318273299' post='2822362'] Now perhaps I'm just a little uninformed since I didn't look into the CB much after realizing everyone involved were asshats anyways and didn't really care, but from what I understood the matter at hand was that Tetris had a spy with a great deal of access to the Legion forums, not so much the content leaked. Aggravated, of course, by the fact that the leaks were with the sole purpose of hurting Legion's image (why anyone pre-war would think their image needed hurting is beyond me). In this case, you have one set of logs with very little in terms of actual important content (as in the Tetris case) but coming from a source invited into your coalition channel for under two hours and only being able to access this little convo. See the difference? Now, there's always the possibility that I made some assumptions, presumptions, or leaps of logical faith in my knowledge of the two events. But even then, you're all still asshats so, eh. [/quote] You're missing that the CB Legion used was that Hereno posted those screenshots on OWF. We were not spying on Legion, Hereno just posted screenshots he received. In addition, what he did post had no content, much like these logs. Now, while the posting of them was an attempt to hurt Legion's image, is this not the same thing? Not only this, but he actually did the spying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereno Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 [quote name='Rebel Virginia' timestamp='1318269785' post='2822324'] [color="#0000FF"]Well, why did you let a prominent ex-Legion member and vocal critic of the war into the channel? I really do not care if LSF is allied to NsO. For the love of God consider who you let into a channel before you start accusing people of "spying." You let him in for crying out loud.[/color] [/quote] Alright, I think it's time I stepped into this channel and set the record straight. At the time, LSF was in the channel because they're allies of NsO. I'm friends with most LSF members, and trust quite a few of them, and they asked if Sabcat could be their backup man in the channel. Me, trusting their judgement, goes "sure, why not", and lets him in as their number two. Less than an hour later, I get queries from the same guys about Sabcat being a possible/probable security issue, and I kick/ban him immediately. Previously to this, I had no idea who Sabcat even was, and nobody in the channel seemed to know either. Later, we find the dumped logs and relayed that betrayal of trust to LSF, which I assume is why he's now on the Legion AA. It was a one-time incident which will not be duplicated in the future. I consider him less of a "spy" and more of a "traitor who betrayed the trust of his own alliance and their ally", and his making of this thread only further proves that he belongs in the Legion. Remember, this all happened literally hours after the original DoW, and nothing of significance was taken or "exposed". All that's really happened here is further discrediting of Sabcat, and a big headache for myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefano Palmieri Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 All I got from this was that James Wilson needs to be ZI'd for calling us tLR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.Hubb Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 (edited) Now that was a roomful of strategists of the highest order. Also, you're chan name isn't cute or funny. It's pretty disgusting. Edited October 10, 2011 by T.Hubb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterShadow Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 All kidding and what not aside, and I dont care if this is going to cost me a warning. I want a defense of the channel name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMC123 Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 fwiw, I didn't find the channel name appropriate either, but that's neither here nor there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonator21 Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 Truly groundbreaking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster83 Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 (edited) These logs are not what I was looking for. Edited October 10, 2011 by Robster83 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 [quote name='T.Hubb' timestamp='1318278400' post='2822399'] Now that was a roomful of strategists of the highest order. Also, you're chan name isn't cute or funny. It's pretty disgusting. [/quote] Oh great, here comes the fake moral outrage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wickedj Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 [quote name='Griff' timestamp='1318287212' post='2822484'] Oh great, here comes the fake moral outrage. [/quote] im amazed it took this long. I saw the channel name like 4 days ago and chuckled.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrash Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 [quote name='Stefano Palmieri' timestamp='1318278334' post='2822398'] All I got from this was that James Wilson needs to be ZI'd for calling us tLR. [/quote] FWIW, around these parts you're known as TLRem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banksy Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 I just can't read logs. I don't know why. I just find myself drifting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omniscient1 Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 (edited) TLR isn't MDoAPed to NPO. It's an ODP. That's all. Edit: Also should have called this thread Sup IAA/BTA/NSO/NsO/Tetris? Would have made me giggle slightly. Edited October 10, 2011 by Omniscient1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheListener Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 [quote name='Stefano Palmieri' timestamp='1318278334' post='2822398'] All I got from this was that James Wilson needs to be ZI'd for calling us tLR. [/quote] That's what he needs to be ZI'd for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluestrike Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 CALL ME A SPY, WILL YOU!? Well, then, I shall show you these confidential logs! Haha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dane0 Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 You missed every single good log in that chan. I'll be sure to post them all after this war is over, since you decided to steal my thunder and post the logs I clearly called. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saniiro Matsudaira Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 I forgot these logs were leaked for a while until now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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