WorkingClassRuler Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Oh gees, I was going to applaud the ballsy (though unnecessary and unhelpful) move to involve yourself in this situation, but perhaps just diplomatic support would have been best? Hopefully FIRE can sort out their internal issues long enough to actually assist their Protectorate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sileath Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Sooo where’s the attempt to help solve this issue? I do apologize for forgetting our conversation last night [ooc] I’ve been really sick so some things that happened in the last few days are kind of blurry. That’s no excuse I still do apologize for forgetting that. [/ooc], even if that conversation had nothing to do with a possible resolution to this. I’ve been available to talk all day to someone about making this better and again, as of this post, no contact. The only contact I’ve gotten has been a “we don’t like it” tone where there is no attempt to solve this solution. And yes the BTA is well aware of many people calling for war over this. And apparently that is the direction you seem to be taking this CJ. BTA has no want for war and is more than willing to work something out. Are you? Neither side desires a war over this issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadie Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 This really has nothing to do with the Karma coalition. Are you saying we are at fault for inter alliance drama that has happened for forever? For one, I'm not saying there is any fault at all here. Secondly, FIRE wouldn't exist if not for Karma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 The only contact I’ve gotten has been a “we don’t like it” tone where there is no attempt to solve this solution. And do they need to attempt to solve it? They said they don't like it, they informed you ahead of time, and you went ahead with it anyway. There has been no attempt to solve this by either side here, and instead of trying to at least make some sort of compromise you completely blow off their feelings. That you were told twice that this would not be taken kindly and you go ahead without any sort of "well maybe if I did this instead" shows a lack of respect for TAB's feelings and that you try to make TAB out as some sort of bully shows that you aren't going to try to 'solve' this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred von Tirpitz Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Secondly, FIRE wouldn't exist if not for Karma. Nah, i do not think that is a correct assessment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astronaut jones Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Nah, i do not think that is a correct assessment. not on red. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcturus Jefferson Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 So how does an alliance that is a protectorate offer it's own protectorate? Was VE consulted even though parts of FIRE's .gov wasn't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sileath Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 So how does an alliance that is a protectorate offer it's own protectorate?Was VE consulted even though parts of FIRE's .gov wasn't? FIRE is not a protectorate. MDoAPs are held with: RoK, VE, and ARES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcturus Jefferson Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Sorry, misinformed from another thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jgoods45 Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Well isn't that nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfox101 Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 I just love things like this. This is such a fun new world. Thank you, FIRE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyInc Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Honor is nothing more than a facade if you have nothing to lose. *SunnyInc claps slowly* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francesca Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Honor is nothing more than a facade if you have nothing to lose.*SunnyInc claps slowly* You don't even have the facade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyInc Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 You don't even have the facade. You're well renowned for drawing conclusions without knowing the facts so I'll dismiss that as speculation, yes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haflinger Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Bandwagoning doesn't always have to be related to the winning side. It can just as much be related to the losing side. You need to read this blog. It's like Carter is actually Ephriam Grey reincarnated. I was thinking more AllenKalashnikov. Considering some of those that would be pulled in are still engaged in what some would consider a Great War, I am not sure it would be all that honorable of some of the greater alliances that are taking interest in this to take it to such a level. Hey, I'm sure an arrangement could be achieved to get around that fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Janova Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 A good example of how to take a simmering diplomatic incident and throw petrol all over it. This really smacks of Carter using the weight of the allies FIRE has managed to secure to back up unnecessary and aggressive posturing. While those alliances will protect you in the short term from the trouble you are attempting to stir up, I don't advise conducting your diplomacy in this fashion. Most alliances don't like their smaller allies throwing their weight about and putting them at risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen MoP Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 I urge all sides to attempt to solve this diplomatically. I urge all sides to settle this with nuclear weapons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeinousOne Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Thank you Karma. Without you this and many other incidents like it that are surely to come, would not have been possible. Thank you so very, very much. What do you expect? People have their new freedoms and they are stretching their wings. Of course that means a few pairs of wings are going to bump into each other as idea's people have wanted to make reality conflict with the ideas of others but that is what this world is about. I would rather see this myself then having all idea's be squashed and/or run through the same people to make sure it is ok. Nah, i do not think that is a correct assessment. Well, FIRE surely would not be on Red if it wasn't for Karma so their name would likely be different and it is even highly possible that the alliance would not have been formed by the people it was formed by if there was not a feeling of independence sweeping the world caused by this latest Great War. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TypoNinja Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 A good example of how to take a simmering diplomatic incident and throw petrol all over it. This really smacks of Carter using the weight of the allies FIRE has managed to secure to back up unnecessary and aggressive posturing. While those alliances will protect you in the short term from the trouble you are attempting to stir up, I don't advise conducting your diplomacy in this fashion. Most alliances don't like their smaller allies throwing their weight about and putting them at risk. Or at least getting a heads up, but hey, he didn't tell his own government, why tell his allies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Michaels Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Or at least getting a heads up, but hey, he didn't tell his own government, why tell his allies? Of course, it's not like we'd like to know if we're getting dragged into an affair that has nothing to do with us or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doitzel Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 *Sigh* No patience. This was a terrible move. You guys know where to find me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonOfHoward Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Oh snappers wut?! Hai MHA! This could have been handled better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petrovich4 Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 I urge all sides to settle this with nuclear weapons. I like the way you think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enderland Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 A good example of how to take a simmering diplomatic incident and throw petrol all over it. This really smacks of Carter using the weight of the allies FIRE has managed to secure to back up unnecessary and aggressive posturing. While those alliances will protect you in the short term from the trouble you are attempting to stir up, I don't advise conducting your diplomacy in this fashion. Most alliances don't like their smaller allies throwing their weight about and putting them at risk. Or at least getting a heads up, but hey, he didn't tell his own government, why tell his allies? Not the first time he's done things of this nature to make things difficult for his own gov, so this really doesn't surprise me all that much. POINT VALIDATED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEraser Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Not the first time he's done things of this nature to make things difficult for his own gov, so this really doesn't surprise me all that much.POINT VALIDATED what ever could you be talking abotu good sir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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