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Francesca

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  1. To Starfox: To be quite honest, I'm sick of all the lies, the propaganda and the filth that infests these forums. I'm tired of being spoon-fed revisionism. I wasn't around in Great War One. I can't clarify who won. I can't discuss the League or the Unjust War, because what I've learned is second-hand. But I was a member of Vox Populi and I know what it was like back then. This sort of revisionism is unbearable and that is because it is simply false. I believed in the Voxian cause, heart and soul, and so did most of the ordinary Vox membership. Do you want me to name names? Hegemon Rob. Heike Lunta. Korng. Kent. I debated with Kent via PM for several weeks before I joined Vox. What attracted me was his passion, his genuine dedication to the creation of a better world. There's something beautiful about a person like that, and it's people like him who make me proud to have called myself a Voxian. Today, I honour him. I'll admit I never really liked you. You were so cold, so focused, so bitter. I knew you didn't really believe in ethics. There were others I had my doubts about too. Electron Sponge was awesome, but I doubted he opposed Pacifica because it was ethical to do so. But I don't believe you or any other individual speaks for the entire of Vox Populi. Each of us spoke for him or herself. After all, we were the Voice of the People. Who's the traitor to Vox, Starfox? The woman who joins the NPO with an honest heart, or the man who lies to his alliance for close to nine months? Toodles everyone. This is my last post on these forums. (Oh, and this was written at about 3.04 am in the morning. It's probably pretty awful.)
  2. Er, dude. I was joking. Hence the and all. ODN are one of my favourite alliances.
  3. Oh, but you don't get it- this is a treaty between MK and the Optional Defense Network. It'll be cancelled before war comes along.
  4. Alliance Name: Multicolored Cross-X Alliance Founded: April 22, 2007 Founders (Alliance they were from prior to founding the alliance): Sam (MCCF), Mars05 (MCCF), Dominus Jake (MCCF), Doctor Fresh (CXA), Liffer (CXA), Vaucluse (CXA) - there were probably others, but this is the extent of my knowledge. Disbanded: n/a
  5. This seemed sincere.... good move, I suppose?
  6. Sometimes you make me laugh. I hope you're not too horrified at the fact.
  7. Oh dear.... debate with Vilien on ethics...... I was going to try and avoid this. However did I get myself into it AGAIN??? I fail to realise what? I'm perfectly aware of your viewpoint, I merely fail to recognise the validity of it, because that is all it is - a viewpoint - and by virtue of being your viewpoint it does not necessarily have credibility or validity. I never recall asserting any such thing, but frankly I am too lazy to read through all my posts to check and will rectify the situation by stating that I do indeed believe in objective and unchanging ethics. Because people and their attitudes change all the time, this would be impossible without the existence of an external deity, an utterly righteous deity, a vast infinite-personal deity, in whom we find all hope, all meaning, and all truth. Goodness is the reflection of the character of this deity. This deity is constant and unchanging, and thus must be outside of the universe as we know it and be without a beginning or end (how can love itself have a beginning or end?) Bird of Passage!!???? Where are you!!!!! I've been discovered!! I thought my reptilian nature was my best kept secret! However will I live this down? Uhm.... on a more serious note (if one can really take this argument seriously) I fail to see how all those statistics you calculated and typed out so carefully are the least bit relevant or interesting. I see you ignored the rest of my post which rebutted everything you had to say. Instead of discussing the actual topic, you've decided to demean the person you are debating with. Have fun believing that you're always correct, LoD.
  8. I stumbled across an old site called The Just Cause the other day (or something like that) in which I read all of the Voxian surrenders, or attempted surrenders. It seemed almost entirely randomised who was let go and who was not. Voxian founders certainly weren't let go, and you had to prove that you weren't one of the main members of the revolution in order to be let go. Often, people who were barely involved were told that they'd been too vocal, and were not released, so they rerolled. Many attempted surrenders were entirely ignored. Some were just laughed at. Then, sometimes people would be let go, but that seemed to me entirely randomised. This isn't !@#$%^&* or Voxian propaganda. I'm pretty unbiased as it is, these days. These are my conclusions having gone and read the evidence, the original source, for myself. I don't hate Pacifica for what they did, I've come to accept much of your history and I understand your viewpoint, but you need to be consistent and address history as it really was. If FAN members rerolled and got caught, they'd be in severe trouble, them and their alliance. This included the threat of ZI. I know this because I knew several undercover FAN members myself during those times, they were Vox's greatest allies, and I know what they went through. I actually agree with you here. The continuation of the war was not entirely down to NPO, they are often demonised for it but it's just not true. But Pacificans, proud to have had the determination to stomp an alliance into the ground for a year? When Pacificans have been ZIed for a year and refused to give up, retaining passion and morale and refusing to let superior forces crush the spirit from their alliance, then you can talk to me about determination and commitment.
  9. I thought so too. *shrugs* I admire TPF quite a lot, no matter what anyone says, and this was one reason why.
  10. They found out TheAUT was Misr's reroll. You are one of the most pathetic people I have ever had the misfortune to come across. Post constructively or not at all. Soldier joined the OPP after they were attacked by TPF, not before. I fail to see how this reflects poorly on TPF, or Soldier, for that matter.
  11. Of course we have different opinions, and are debating them. I never denied that. What I claimed was that the fact that we disagreed did not prove that what we are debating is relative. Rules of nature, rules of physics and chemistry, are rules which cannot be broken. Morals are rules which can be broken if we choose to do so. Rules are a set of boundaries. Ah, yes... semantics...... a word that is becoming increasingly familiar to me of late... it is the insult of a person who has nothing left in the quiver, no sufficient counter-rebuttal..... the retort of the pathetic and weak-minded, the fool and the one who is determined not to listen to reason. I detest the word, outside of a very strict context.
  12. I have an opinion on whether the earth goes around the sun. Let us imagine that a person from Africa believes that the sun goes around the earth, and we argue this, and present evidence for our opinions. Does that make it subjective? Of course not. In the same way, the fact that you are arguing with me about morals proves nothing. On the contrary, morals are essentially a set of laws, a set of rules, regarding how people act. I don't see why the fact that anything is a thought means it is relative, but regardless, once a thought progresses to the stage that it effects how we act and the world around us, it is more than a thought. I feel that the way you phrased it and your contemptuous distaste for objective values is being intolerant, something which you have implied is a value dear to your heart.
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