heggo Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 At the NSO, we're waaaayyyyyyyy, ahead of ya' on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leetopia II Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Thanks for the PM spam >.< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Style #386 Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Best of luck out there, (former) Karma POWs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George the Great Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 My alliance is in 1st place, and as such, we do not support this move. Needz moar oppression. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramirus Maximus Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 (edited) Archon does FA, I do military.Meaning I present them with options and they choose one. Ramirus - Mentat of Karma Edited June 10, 2009 by Ramirus Maximus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archon Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Well my sig has been on every Karma related document except the original post by Archon because I organized the war for our front. Archon does FA, I do military. Azaghul and RamirusMaximus did IA and oversaw the banking for it. It's worth noting all of that authority was de facto. People generally deferred to the individuals listed above with respect to those specific domains, though by no means was there any semblance of a hard and fast control. Trust me. It would have saved us all a LOT of headaches if there were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackSkellington Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 We're not going to have to get another one of those really lame and cheesy quotes from Archon again, are we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timberland Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Good luck POW's . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Yvl Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 But why would anyone leave an awesome alliance like that? Come on guys, you were so close to being sanctioned, don't give up now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidMercury Posted June 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 It's worth noting all of that authority was de facto. People generally deferred to the individuals listed above with respect to those specific domains, though by no means was there any semblance of a hard and fast control. Trust me. It would have saved us all a LOT of headaches if there were. Quoted for truth. I still wonder why people ever listened to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delgursh Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Good call folks...nice to see Good luck to all the POWs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhawk Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Well my sig has been on every Karma related document except the original post by Archon because I organized the war for our front. Archon does FA, I do military. Azaghul and RamirusMaximus did IA and oversaw the banking for it. Your front was only on IRON I thought? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebony Wings Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Your front was only on IRON I thought? I don't get it. Karma is releasing the prisoners taken from your side of the war, and you're splitting hairs about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhawk Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 I don't get it. Karma is releasing the prisoners taken from your side of the war, and you're splitting hairs about it? I'm not arguing anything regarding the announcement. I just found it interesting whom posted this op, so I was trying to figure out a bit more how karma functions. Certain allies of ours have had no ability to reach joint leadership of the forces opposing them, so I figure learning anything about our opponents leadership, or defacto leadership would hopefully help out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebony Wings Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 I'm not arguing anything regarding the announcement. I just found it interesting whom posted this op, so I was trying to figure out a bit more how karma functions. Certain allies of ours have had no ability to reach joint leadership of the forces opposing them, so I figure learning anything about our opponents leadership, or defacto leadership would hopefully help out. Ah, yes. I can see where that would be an issue, then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groucho Marx Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 My alliance is in 1st place, and as such, we do not support this move. Needz moar oppression. I agree. I for one, welcome our new Spartan overlords. Especially with GtG at the helm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shahenshah Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Bad Riddance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramirus Maximus Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 (edited) I'm not arguing anything regarding the announcement. I just found it interesting whom posted this op, so I was trying to figure out a bit more how karma functions. Certain allies of ours have had no ability to reach joint leadership of the forces opposing them, so I figure learning anything about our opponents leadership, or defacto leadership would hopefully help out.LM, myself, Archon, Twisted, ChinaTownBus, Londo, GtG, and a few others are the Karma High Command. To my knowledge, no one from the hegemony has ever had any difficulty reaching me or any of us. If so they couldn't have tried very hard; since all it would take is a query to ONE major alliance's .gov: "Get me in touch with Karma High Command". That exact line was how everyone from the hegemony got in touch with me (I was in charge when LM wasn't around, so I go a lot of that). We've been well-known from the beginning (well, LM and Archon have more than the rest of us), and it's been pretty easy to find someone to talk to if you really wanted to. It appears as though whoever you're talking about didn't really try very hard. Maybe they just didn't really want to talk to anyone.Ramirus - Mentat of Karma Edited June 10, 2009 by Ramirus Maximus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus Autumn Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 LM, myself, Archon, Twisted, ChinaTownBus, Londo, GtG, and a few others are the Karma High Command. To my knowledge, no one from the hegemony has ever had any difficulty reaching me or any of us. We did - though, interestingly, it wasn't made clear that one of the persons present was in fact Karma High Command or was even associated with Karma in an official capacity. Thank you for providing this informational tidbit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Maximus Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 (edited) LM, myself, Archon, Twisted, ChinaTownBus, Londo, GtG, and a few others are the Karma High Command. Before (during the TSI peace terms) it was constantly said that PC was not a Karma alliance. So I take it that there was a change of heart? Edited June 10, 2009 by James Maximus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhawk Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 LM, myself, Archon, Twisted, ChinaTownBus, Londo, GtG, and a few others are the Karma High Command. To my knowledge, no one from the hegemony has ever had any difficulty reaching me or any of us. If so they couldn't have tried very hard; since all it would take is a query to ONE major alliance's .gov: "Get me in touch with Karma High Command". That exact line was how everyone from the hegemony got in touch with me (I was in charge when LM wasn't around, so I go a lot of that). We've been well-known from the beginning (well, LM and Archon have more than the rest of us), and it's been pretty easy to find someone to talk to if you really wanted to. It appears as though whoever you're talking about didn't really try very hard. Maybe they just didn't really want to talk to anyone.Ramirus - Mentat of Karma Okay so then my allies at NPO are lying when they tell me karma command wont work or talk to them about terms. Additionally one of the karma high command has stated he wants all of tpf held in permanent war and that we will be paying for all the reps caused from their techraiding of alliances? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potato Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Okay so then my allies at NPO are lying when they tell me karma command wont work or talk to them about terms. Additionally one of the karma high command has stated he wants all of tpf held in permanent war and that we will be paying for all the reps caused from their techraiding of alliances? I was wondering what you REALLY were getting at ... Now I know and I still don't see why you're doing it, besides the cheap PR. "OMG KARMA ISN'T ORGANISED! YOU BIG MEANIES!" You (or your allies) want peace/terms/whatever? You know EXACTLY who to talk to. And you knew since day 1. Don't play stupid, it doesn't do you any justice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crushtania Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Fantastic to see. May the war come to an end swiftly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geopet Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Okay so then my allies at NPO are lying when they tell me karma command wont work or talk to them about terms. Additionally one of the karma high command has stated he wants all of tpf held in permanent war and that we will be paying for all the reps caused from their techraiding of alliances? Seeing at least two old friends-enemies-friends in the Karma command, I would find that very hard to believe. Especially with you in command. If memory serves me right when I was on the receiving end of them fighting alongside Polaris in the noCB war, they liked to scare us with crazy terms first, too. Good luck to all on sorting this out for the best possible outcome, one that will allow for changes to be made in good faith without excessive terms, no matter how severe the crimes being punished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhawk Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 (edited) I was wondering what you REALLY were getting at ... Now I know and I still don't see why you're doing it, besides the cheap PR. "OMG KARMA ISN'T ORGANISED! YOU BIG MEANIES!" You (or your allies) want peace/terms/whatever? You know EXACTLY who to talk to. And you knew since day 1. Don't play stupid, it doesn't do you any justice. I know who to talk to, and we won't talk to them until our allies are out. However our allies tell us everyday that karma won't talk to them. So I want to know whom is lying here. The other part was just a rant about some particular members of "karma high command". I don't have an issue with organized or anarchist, whatever. I just am trying to assist my ally in achieving an exit from the war since they have been unable to find the right folks to talk to it seems. There was no slam on karma in general, saying something about one guy doesn't paint a broad brush on the rest of you, which for the most part has certainly been quite enjoyable opponents. Edited June 10, 2009 by mhawk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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