Geopet

Hard to see, the dark side is. That's not why I fought it. Aye, aye.

Well, you are right on to speak up here, and if anyone says it's bad PR, laugh from the gut.

Hey, poyps! Give em hell!

Cool and all, but you know, the neat thing about this little tangent debate that flared up here is that it is among parties who opposed you. Perhaps it looks like discord or division to those unfamiliar with free association and speech. I suspect not for much longer.

So perfectly fitting that you are asking this of tautology.

I'll happily get up-to-date on that when the reps recipients are published here.

Perhaps my past experiences are just a bit more evil than yours? That does not mean I am not a Tygaist now .

Of course they have... in secret terms. And oh dear admin, let's not let some over zealous NPO members start claiming this type of thing thanks to what I perceive as a mostly innocent lack of specificity in these surrender terms. My only point here, as a somewhat overinterested gadfly of sorts, is there is no reason to not publicly share who is getting what reps, unless it has not been decided yet, which has customarily been the case at this early stage (see Azaghul's post above). edit for Azaghul

You are right to categorize those who would call this a secret term laughable, but, at the same time, all of us would be wise to recognize Lady freedom's stomach and not demean the integrity of her naturally healthy appetite. Depends on what you are doing in those underpants....

I am uncertain as to how this reply will be topical, but here goes: We have lost much and won nothing, while, at the same time, we have won much and lost nothing. Also, for dee topic at hand, no one should ever win the lottery. Tis bad form. Especially when it is a metaphor.

The line it is drawn The curse it is cast The slow one now Will later be fast As the present now Will later be past The order is Rapidly fadin'. And the first one now Will later be last For the times they are a-changin'. B)

huh? 1. I was the one of the first to echo RandomInterrupt in celebrating no secret terms from Karma, thus my defense in this respect. 2. Are you questioning that members of the NpO were not subjected to secret terms, ala no posting on these forums, etc.? Or are you just being sarcastic here and I am immensely dense?

Worst case scenario those who opposed Karma are looking for talking points here. I say big whoop. Give them the data and let them knock themselves out.

Maybe it's time to throw old PR considerations into the wind and just let out with it? What harm is there that can be done now that will not be done within a month or so to the same extent or worse? and