The Quest for the Unholy Lands

[Stewie]

9 minutes ago, Jazzy95 said:

Are you saying the same people that were dunking on Polar in one thread and then praising them 3 days later don't actually have principles? I'm shocked, SHOCKED.

 

Yeah - dunking on the previous Polar administration.

Then they got deposed and old friends who they had a really productive relationship with came back…. 

 

Makes sense to me.  Happens plenty of times over the years.

[HeroofTime55]

30 minutes ago, Jazzy95 said:

Are you saying the same people that were dunking on Polar in one thread and then praising them 3 days later don't actually have principles? I'm shocked, SHOCKED.

Polaris didn't flip, lmao, they're still on your side. They just reversed the crappy things they did at the start. KoRT doesn't need to flip sides to win our praise. They're being criticized because they entered in the most contrived way possible to dogpile on the one alliance that has arguably faced the greatest pressure so far, and thus would be the lowest risk to dogpile in on - all without regard for the history of CCC defending KoRT from Polaris.  There's a proper confluence of factors that make this one of the most disgraceful declarations of the whole war.

[Ibz]

28 minutes ago, A1ph4 0m3ga said:

I’m glad to know TKTB couldn’t handle an upstart rogue action turned legitimate and KoRT was so moved by their struggle they rushed to declare an aggressive war on CCC rather than on TCTB who declared the offensive war or NG who literally declared on TKTB a couple days ago.

Is it aggressive when CCC has chosen to send war aid?

[Lord Windmark]

Incompetence aired is incompetence proved.

[Tevron]

22 minutes ago, Ibz said:

Is it aggressive when CCC has chosen to send war aid?

Along these lines, is it aggressive for CCC to be in coalition chats to start an aggressive war? Their alliance's principles are as misinterpreted as the Bible they profess to base their alliance on. I'm sure their charter is no longer relevant to anything they do, but it is telling just how far they've drifted from it.
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Enjoy your quest KoRT!

[nishiyoshi_mha]

I think there is honest confusion since the quote in the post was from TCTB. So it does make some sense that KoRT did shortcut declaring on TCTB, to have CCC activate protectorate.

 

However, the lack of actual work into the war dec thread to make this clear is what is most disappointing, versus the time on the nice graphic. That said I still stand by welcoming more people to be involved.

[Lollerobot]

Sorry I am late, stuff happened.

 

My penguin nation of Tigerblue has moved the glacier cities in defensive locations around the turtle nations. This mindless slaughter of my aquatic allies is at an end.

 

My penguins are equipped with the newest hotdog cannons so be scared.

[Johnny Apocalypse]

3 hours ago, HeroofTime55 said:

They're being criticized because they entered in the most contrived way possible to dogpile on the one alliance that has arguably faced the greatest pressure so far,

 

So defend them then.

[Bionic redhead]

14 minutes ago, Johnny Apocalypse said:

 

So defend them then.

 

Can you imagine how smug NG will be when we beat NPO, Iron, VE, TKTB and KoRT? We'll be utterly unbearable. 

[Johnny Apocalypse]

12 minutes ago, Bionic redhead said:

 

Can you imagine how smug NG will be when we beat NPO, Iron, VE, TKTB and KoRT? We'll be utterly unbearable. 

 

No I can't imagine that at all, please demonstrate that outcome by defending your unfairly overwhelmed allies.

Edited July 26, 2022 by Johnny Apocalypse

[A1ph4 0m3ga]

3 hours ago, Tevron said:

Their alliance's principles are as misinterpreted as the Bible they profess to base their alliance on.

[OOC] A blatant OOC attack on a foundation of a religion? Calling the Bible misinterpreted?  How very kind of you Tevron. I expected better from you. [/OOC]
 

 

 

[Johnny Apocalypse]

7 minutes ago, A1ph4 0m3ga said:

[OOC] A blatant OOC attack on a foundation of a religion? Calling the Bible misinterpreted?  How very kind of you Tevron. I expected better from you. [/OOC]
 

 

 

 

[OOC] Pretty sure every religious text has been misinterpreted in some fashion by mankind throughout history, knowingly or not. For example: Many Christians may consider the idea of using your psuedonym of choice to be an act of blasphemy. [/OOC]

 

Anyway back on topic: Why is it so unfair to dogpile CCC and why are their allies not coming to their defense?

[A1ph4 0m3ga]

2 minutes ago, Johnny Apocalypse said:

[OOC] Pretty sure every religious text has been misinterpreted in some fashion by mankind throughout history, knowingly or not. For example: Many Christians may consider the idea of using your psuedonym of choice to be an act of blasphemy. [/OOC]

My point was it has no bearing in this discussion and should not be used. It was poor form imo.

[Johnny Apocalypse]

4 minutes ago, A1ph4 0m3ga said:

My point was it has no bearing in this discussion and should not be used. It was poor form imo.

 

You're the Christian Coalition of Countries. It's relevant to your theme? The same way  anti-communists bashing communist/socialist alliances for their theme is on message. I wouldn't take it personally mate.

[Kapleo]

4 minutes ago, Johnny Apocalypse said:

Why are their allies not coming to their defense?

What's the point of having a meatshield if you're not gonna use it? Though, to be fair, there are other meatshields.

[lilweirdward]

2 hours ago, Johnny Apocalypse said:

 

So defend them then.

 

You disappoint me so much these days. Nearly 600 nations piling on 40 - and those 40 fighting at nearly level damage and continuing to escape staggers and declare new wars - is exactly the sort of thing that you've stood for countless times in this game, including as recently as the commie wars. Standing up for the little guy was literally the entire basis behind the micro world, and I honestly thought that if anyone could think objectively about that happening again, it would be you. I guess I shouldn't be surprised though that your blind hatred of NG is too overwhelming in this situation, and that instead of having any sympathy for an alliance still standing strong and proud under a literal world of pressure, you're instead mocking NG for not defending us more than they already have. It's just extremely sad.

 

5 hours ago, Tevron said:

Along these lines, is it aggressive for CCC to be in coalition chats to start an aggressive war? Their alliance's principles are as misinterpreted as the Bible they profess to base their alliance on. I'm sure their charter is no longer relevant to anything they do, but it is telling just how far they've drifted from it.
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Enjoy your quest KoRT!

 

I don't feel like addressing this publicly since you've already opened a more healthy dialogue in our embassy, but you know that you don't have to keep taking public OOC swipes at us before you can initiate those private conversations, right? If you're going to keep doing it, at least sprinkle in a good SpongeBob insult or something to keep the mood light, idk lol.

[Kapleo]

30 minutes ago, lilweirdward said:

Standing up for the little guy was literally the entire basis behind the micro world, and I honestly thought that if anyone could think objectively about that happening again, it would be you. I guess I shouldn't be surprised though that your blind hatred of NG is too overwhelming in this situation, and that instead of having any sympathy for an alliance still standing strong and proud under a literal world of pressure, you're instead mocking NG for not defending us more than they already have. It's just extremely sad.

In Johnny's defense, he's throwing crap to both sides plus, the big dumbass is also fighting Claws now. Also, I wouldn't blame any microworld remnant to be ok sitting this one out. Why would they? Your side literally pushed them all over the other side or a limbo in-between. 

 

But yeah, in a way, I actually sympathise with your current situation. Been there, done that. Sucks. However, you have a bigger system/bloc of support and hopefully they will come in and support you just like you supported them considering CCC is being hit the hardest. You've show you can hold yourself in the battlefield before, sadly it's time for you to do it again, now against a former friend/ally. And, oh boy, that sucks more than all I've said before. Godspeed, Lww.

Edited July 26, 2022 by Kapleo

[Mumzilla]

6 hours ago, Tevron said:

Along these lines, is it aggressive for CCC to be in coalition chats to start an aggressive war? Their alliance's principles are as misinterpreted as the Bible they profess to base their alliance on. I'm sure their charter is no longer relevant to anything they do, but it is telling just how far they've drifted from it.
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Enjoy your quest KoRT!

 

be careful they may get offended if you attack them this way lol.

 

KoRT is awesome

 

ccc NG and that little rogue turtle alliance are not. 

[firingline]

So many tears.

[Knights of the Grail]

8 hours ago, Canik said:

Even though CCC defended them against Polar.

 

They did.

And the Knights of the Round Table went to war in the Pacific for CCC.

 

A Quest to Pacifica - Alliance Announcements (IC) - Cyber Nations Forums

 

So?

 

[Azkadel]

To the noble Knights of the Round Table and also Knights of Grail,

While your CB is as close to baseless as it can possibly be, I look forward to our duel. I would like to thank you all for keeping the Global War Maps public, it really helps me to understand how you came to this deci- 



Wait a moment. *Puts on glasses.*

Oh. This really does look like an entirely separate war, not at all related to the global conflict, given that the CCC has declared only one war. The legal loopholes, sirrahs. 

Ah well. Forgive me if I smell like smashed turtles and broken Pacificans. They keep throwing themselves at me. Maybe this separate conflict -one of unprovoked aggression and not related to the current global conflict - will wash some of the garbage off. 

o7 KoRT. May the clash of our nuclear swords change the world. 

[Cosmic Chocolate]

So you cant activate an oA clause on a treaty but you can make treaties in the middle of the war and activate them…what?

[The Big Bad]

So what I get here is KoTR is like we have lots of pressure to get into this war but we really do not like the doom guys so we want to look like we are doing something without doing anything that will effect the out come of the war.  So they see CCC is pretty much dead and that the Turtles are out of money and collapsing so they just declare on CCC and fill the few slots the dying turtle were filling.   

[lilweirdward]

4 minutes ago, LordDarrin said:

So you cant activate an oA clause on a treaty but you can make treaties in the middle of the war and activate them…what?

 

People from DS keep saying this like it means anything in the context of this specific DoW. Did KoRT sign an oA treaty for the first time in their history that I'm not aware of? Or are you arguing that because a few alliances retroactively activated newly signed treaties (which is by no means a novel idea in CN history), that suddenly all rules are out the window and KoRT is allowed to make up whatever pretext they want in order to enter the war? Maybe it has nothing to do with anything and you're all just really bothered by MHA, idk.

[Cosmic Chocolate]

5 minutes ago, lilweirdward said:

 

People from DS keep saying this like it means anything in the context of this specific DoW. Did KoRT sign an oA treaty for the first time in their history that I'm not aware of? Or are you arguing that because a few alliances retroactively activated newly signed treaties (which is by no means a novel idea in CN history), that suddenly all rules are out the window and KoRT is allowed to make up whatever pretext they want in order to enter the war? Maybe it has nothing to do with anything and you're all just really bothered by MHA, idk.

Sounds to me like you’re bothered by this. Common theme on the opposing side. It’s insane to me that you think it’s ok to activate a “Newly signed treaty” mid war but not act on behalf of an aggressor..