Merrie Melodies Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 [quote name='BloodFury' timestamp='1350227408' post='3041310'] If by saying that you cannot take GOONS seriously, how can you possible see it as good logic? [/quote] GOONS are bullies, unless your an unfortunate unaligned nation GOONS on their own are a joke meant to be ridiculed but never taken serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auctor Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 somewhat confused by the positions some folks are taking here when compared to how they've handled situations in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiro Nakara Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 [quote name='Auctor' timestamp='1350229177' post='3041314'] somewhat confused by the positions some folks are taking here when compared to how they've handled situations in the past. [/quote] Who's confusing you with their position? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingervites Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 [quote name='BloodFury' timestamp='1350227408' post='3041310'] If by saying that you cannot take GOONS seriously, how can you possible see it as good logic? [/quote]It worked out for Kaskus and Mongols, GOONS were made a laughing stock that no one took seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sardonic Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 [quote name='Gingervites' timestamp='1350274281' post='3041526'] It worked out for Kaskus and Mongols, GOONS were made a laughing stock that no one took seriously. [/quote] Heh, the brony alliance thinks they are in any position to call somebody a laughing stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingervites Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 [quote name='Sardonic' timestamp='1350274814' post='3041527'] Heh, the brony alliance thinks they are in any position to call somebody a laughing stock. [/quote]Hey we're not the alliance who bullies people that are unable to defend themselves yet when an alliance actually fights back you guys go running off asking for some extra protection and thicker diapers. Friendship, love, tolerance, and equality are good things to go by and I am proud to be with an alliance that does their best to follow those ideals. GOONS could learn something from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenMorningstar Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 Roll the bronies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trimm Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 [quote name='Sardonic' timestamp='1350162101' post='3041152'] Yeah whatever, anime avatar. [/quote] Cmon Sardonic, you are better than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrie Melodies Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 [quote name='trimm' timestamp='1350307807' post='3041589'] Cmon Sardonic, you are better than that. [/quote] No, he really isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Quintus Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 Six crappy, poo-covered nukes, coming right up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenMorningstar Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 Doornail, if you last longer than Stonewall Jaxon (may he rest in peace) I will be amazed. He held out for 4 months before breaking his vow and deleting. I guess he was right about white peace... we don't offer it. I look forward to seeing you down by me in a week or two. Then it will be my turn to do to you what we did to Stonewall. Keep you in perpetual war until you surrender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattski133 Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Merrie Melodies' timestamp='1350003035' post='3040276'] I aim to embarass you, now I demand you get on with destroying me you coward. [/quote] i don't follow. [quote name='Dr Beefstupid' timestamp='1350021739' post='3040446'] Not very good at history, are you? [url="http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/Doom_House-NPO_War"]http://cybernations....m_House-NPO_War[/url] [/quote] dude, we got a BILLION dollars in aid during that war. it negates entirely our abilities to fight. i don't mean this as a dig at our allies who are curiously (and thankfully) drawn to help us when we need it most, but whenever i see someone say that i can't help but picture Dr. Evil. ONE BILLION DOLLARS. Or, to put it in context, some fraction of Umar's warchest. (i think it was closer to five or six billion, to be fair to our friends, also) [quote name='Starfox101' timestamp='1350159128' post='3041140'] The right to exist free from raiders is not something that needs to be earned. It's something that should come with the existance (sp) of an alliance. [/quote] Maybe it "should", maybe but it certainly "doesn't". Any raiding alliance in the world would have raided these guys, and probably DoorNail too if they knew what his WC was like. Some people think it's sad when a lion takes down a gazelle calf, or when a bulldozer clears room for a shopping mall, but in reality it's a small percentage of pacifists chained to a tree or occasionally militant protestors that show up to cry about it, and hardly the rest of the world. Edited October 15, 2012 by mattski133 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nintenderek Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 [quote name='Tir Nan Og' timestamp='1350335475' post='3041678'] Doornail, if you last longer than Stonewall Jaxon (may he rest in peace) I will be amazed. He held out for 4 months before breaking his vow and deleting. I guess he was right about white peace... we don't offer it. I look forward to seeing you down by me in a week or two. Then it will be my turn to do to you what we did to Stonewall. Keep you in perpetual war until you surrender. [/quote] And you guys try to claim you don't practice PZI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander shepard Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 A lion kills a gazelle because it needs to eat meat to survive, there is no other options for it as evolution did not make any. You're seriously comparing that to a bulldozer? Lol Goons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenMorningstar Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 [quote name='Nintenderek' timestamp='1350337629' post='3041691'] And you guys try to claim you don't practice PZI [/quote] We don't. He could have requested peace at any time and paid reps for going rogue on us. He chose not to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfox101 Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 [quote name='Sardonic' timestamp='1350274814' post='3041527'] Heh, the brony alliance thinks they are in any position to call somebody a laughing stock. [/quote] "Insert generic response regarding previous poster's alliance, signature, and avatar" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D34th Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Tir Nan Og' timestamp='1350340643' post='3041707'] We don't. He could have requested peace at any time and paid reps for going rogue on us. He chose not to. [/quote] This would be a nice and fair surrender process if GOONS understood the difference between going rogue and defending his alliance/friends from unprovoked attacks. Current GOONS line of action:[list=1] [*]I'll steal your friends [*]If you interfere I'll steal you [*]If you are too strong to me steal you by my own, I'll call my big brother to help me [*]If you fight back while me and my big brother are stealing you, I'll steal you and then you will need to pay me to my brother stop to punch you in the face. [/list] And they will try to convince you and everyone else that you're the only to blame for being beaten to the ground. Edited October 15, 2012 by D34th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodFury Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 [quote name='mattski133' timestamp='1350336539' post='3041682'] Maybe it "should", maybe but it certainly "doesn't". Any raiding alliance in the world would have raided these guys, and probably DoorNail too if they knew what his WC was like. Some people think it's sad when a lion takes down a gazelle calf, or when a bulldozer clears room for a shopping mall, but in reality it's a small percentage of pacifists chained to a tree or occasionally militant protestors that show up to cry about it, and hardly the rest of the world. [/quote] Predatory animals tend to kill the weak, the sick, and the old. It allows for the herd/species to become stronger and weans out the weaknesses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeros Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 From where I sit raiding is not the issue. The issue is your assertion that retaliating for being raided constitutes roguery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nintenderek Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Tir Nan Og' timestamp='1350340643' post='3041707'] We don't. He could have requested peace at any time and paid reps for going rogue on us. He chose not to. [/quote] He didn't go rouge. He defended a member of his alliance, whom you attacked. And even if he did decide to surrender, you'd have him pay an insane amount of reps and do some ridiculous stupid stuff for your mercy boards which would almost be the same as PZI. This is an extremely poor show of behavior for GOONS. [quote name='D34th' timestamp='1350341983' post='3041717'] This would be a nice and fair surrender process if GOONS understood the difference between going rogue and defending his alliance/friends from unprovoked attacks. Current GOONS line of action:[list=1] [*]I'll steal your friends [*]If you interfere I'll steal you [*]If you are too strong to me steal you by my own, I'll call my big brother to help me [*]If you fight back while me and my big brother are stealing you, I'll steal you and then you will need to pay me to my brother stop to punch you in the face. [/list] And they will try to convince you and everyone else that you're the only to blame for being beaten to the ground. [/quote] This is probably the most accurate statement posted in this thread. Edited October 16, 2012 by Nintenderek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berbers Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 [quote name='Nintenderek' timestamp='1350337629' post='3041691'] And you guys try to claim you don't practice PZI [/quote] It's at worse conditional PZI, as they keep attacking you unless you give in to terms. But PZI has a certain permanence about it that precludes the ability to fulfil terms to end it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nintenderek Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 [quote name='berbers' timestamp='1350348679' post='3041751'] It's at worse conditional PZI, as they keep attacking you unless you give in to terms. But PZI has a certain permanence about it that precludes the ability to fulfil terms to end it [/quote] "Conditional PZI" is just as bad as PZI. There comes a point where you need to just let things go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrie Melodies Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 [quote name='mattski133' timestamp='1350336539' post='3041682'] Maybe it "should", maybe but it certainly "doesn't". Any raiding alliance in the world would have raided these guys, and probably DoorNail too if they knew what his WC was like. Some people think it's sad when a lion takes down a gazelle calf, or when a bulldozer clears room for a shopping mall, but in reality it's a small percentage of pacifists chained to a tree or occasionally militant protestors that show up to cry about it, and hardly the rest of the world. [/quote] Raids don't last for 3 weeks and honorable raiders don't call their alliance and allies to bear military might on raids that fight back. I have nothing against raiding, what GOONS do isn't raiding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Humphrey Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 GOONS sure can pick 'em! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpliceVW Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 [quote name='D34th' timestamp='1350341983' post='3041717'] This would be a nice and fair surrender process if GOONS understood the difference between going rogue and defending his alliance/friends from unprovoked attacks. Current GOONS line of action:[list=1] [*]I'll steal your friends [*]If you interfere I'll steal you [*]If you are too strong to me steal you by my own, I'll call my big brother to help me [*]If you fight back while me and my big brother are stealing you, I'll steal you and then you will need to pay me to my brother stop to punch you in the face. [/list] And they will try to convince you and everyone else that you're the only to blame for being beaten to the ground. [/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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