SoADarthCyfe6 Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 (edited) As goes Color Politics, so goes a cluster in the treaty web. Good to see this go. Edited February 10, 2012 by SoADarthCyfe6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Flinders Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 It is nice to see this put to bed amicably. NOIR served multiple purposes through its life and it was a pleasure working with all of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Believland Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 [quote name='Fort Pitt' timestamp='1328841480' post='2917597'] o/ to the days when Noir actually meant something [/quote] Yeah, that day before you signed it must have been amazing. Glad to see you put this to death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Xander the Only Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 Today was a good day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schattenmann Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 [quote name='Proest' timestamp='1328840714' post='2917590'] Also, since when is Nordreich spelled NordReich? Minor details. [/quote] The discord begins already! I think this can be traced to the disbandment of MFO. It just wasn't Black without them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banksy Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 So when are GOONS joining NOIR? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Savage Man Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 you will be sorely missed just not by me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshuaR Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 NOIR served its function well. There was once a time when various small alliances, led and corralled by OBR, determined that as the old GOONS was entering a decline, there was a great opportunity to make a strike and remove the old system of alliance dominance over a color sphere (NPO on red, GGA on green, FAN on yellow, GOONS on black...). As GOONS was undergoing its final death throes, these many small and diverse alliances met together under the Dark Vows in order to guarantee that the future of black would be a bright and free future. There would be no dominance. The senate would be free. And together, these alliances would work toward economic prosperity. This primary goal succeeded beyond the founders' wildest imaginations. DV members held senate seats alongside banned member, and the dominance was broken. Soon, when GOONS would go on to disband, this grouping of alliances would hold onto the free senate, even as outside alliances might consider moving to black to fill the void that the defunct GOONS had vacated. And so they did. Some, such as CIS, returned to black, and they formed their own blocs in order to control their own senate seat. DV members did not stop this action, as their presence was thus far enough to prevent the newcomers from claiming hold over all of the sphere. Yet, even as successful as the Dark Vows became, there still were too few members of the black sphere, and there wasn't a strong enough draw to nab all of the black alliances, nor to necessarily attract as many as could be to the blossoming sphere. And this is where NOIR came in. By offering everything that DV offered, and adding to it an optional defense clause, NOIR not only provided for economic unity and prosperity, but it gave signatory alliances the ability to protect their economic claims. With its more powerful language, and the promise of becoming part of the foundation of the new black, it even attracted powerful new signatories such as the newly minted black team alliance, Sparta. And when people considered forming new alliances, there was one premier destination, and that was black. New alliances need not fill a subservient role to some powerhouse in return for protection, but instead these alliances could join the prosperous black sphere, guarantee their protection merely by their existence and participation in a bloc idealizing a free senate and mutual economic prosperity, and beyond that, they would have an equal voice when compared to the new black powerhouses such as Sparta or Umbrella. Whereas in the past, these alliances wouldn't have even known of each others' existence, a strong dialogue now existed between almost all members of the black sphere. And so the black sphere grew, as more and more alliances joined. And even without the strong anti-tech presence of, say, the NPO at the time, the black sphere promised at least partial protection to independent nations, as its signatories were forbidden from attacking each other and forbidden from raiding any black nations. Thus, instead of watching the black sphere fall into disarray after the destruction of the original GOONS, instead it became more powerful and more attractive than ever. Of all the important resources in cybernations, it held the most important of them all: nations. Nowhere else was it easier to find a trade, either by the simple number of nations residing in the sphere (I should know, having held gold/water), or by working with the numerous black team alliances in organizing trades, the most annoying and difficult part of managing a nation was now made easier than anywhere else. But all that was literally years ago. At this point in time, the strong dialogue that once existed has dissipated, as the many individual alliances remaining grew more and more reliant on their own circles of power outside this grouping. Many of the small alliances that had reached a certain level of prosperity through NOIR and on black had disbanded or disappeared. Even the rules of this world have been flipped upside-down. Trades are no longer a worry to anyone in an alliance. Alliance dominance over the sphere is no longer a concern to any. Nation numbers matter no longer. Thus, for all the reasons NOIR was founded, there no longer exists a strong rationale for it remaining. It has succeeded. And because it has done so well, there is no longer a need for it. As it stands now, it serves merely to limit an alliance's sovereignty and limit its ability to support allies. Though it stood, it rested wearily on cracked and rotting supports. Rather than let it decay, we decided to put it to rest, to applaud what it once was, and to bury it and move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hormones74 Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 The black sphere used to be unstable? I don't believe it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proest Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 [quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1328847064' post='2917656'] The discord begins already! [/quote] We've already created Umbrellreich. The seed is sewn. :v Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldConqueror Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 bout time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauty Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 Honestly kinda sad to see this o/ All former NOIR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laslo Kenez Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 For a colour treaty I suppose NOIR delivered goods now and again, so nicely done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caliph Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 Long overdo. Good it could be laid to rest without much fuss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewie Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 Bye bye NOIR hello raid targets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pd73bassman Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 [quote name='Stewie' timestamp='1328872233' post='2917794'] Bye bye NOIR hello raid targets [/quote] Well it took long enough for the raid comment to come out, Stewie in b4 GOONS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammykhalifa Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 This makes me a little sad; as it takes me back to the early days of planning, debating, meeting new people, etc. Geez that was a long time ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewie Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 [quote name='pd73bassman' timestamp='1328877266' post='2917806'] Well it took long enough for the raid comment to come out, Stewie in b4 GOONS [/quote] Didn't you hear? NG are the new GOONS/NPO/Ebil Alliance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janax Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 Not sad to see relics of color politics go away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordSlade Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 It was always fun to see how the treaty was never used unless there was something to gain by having numbers or as stated above someone needed to reach someone through a "far off" connection, otherwise it was a dust collector. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarmatian Empire Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 I guess it was time, still a shame though. I have lots of good memories from NOIR. The shocking part for me is how small the sig list is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammykhalifa Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 [quote name='LordSlade' timestamp='1328888254' post='2917852'] It was always fun to see how the treaty was never used unless there was something to gain by having numbers or as stated above someone needed to reach someone through a "far off" connection, otherwise it was a dust collector. [/quote] Depends on what you mean. I know many people that got some good trade circles from it. Some of those trades stuck for several years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schattenmann Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 [quote name='JoshuaR' timestamp='1328848477' post='2917669'] NOIR served its function well. There was once a time when various small alliances, led and corralled by OBR, determined that as the old GOONS was entering a decline, there was a great opportunity to make a strike and remove the old system of alliance dominance over a color sphere (NPO on red, GGA on green, FAN on yellow, GOONS on black...). As GOONS was undergoing its final death throes, these many small and diverse alliances met together under the Dark Vows in order to guarantee that the future of black would be a bright and free future. There would be no dominance. The senate would be free. And together, these alliances would work toward economic prosperity. This primary goal succeeded beyond the founders' wildest imaginations. DV members held senate seats alongside banned member, and the dominance was broken. Soon, when GOONS would go on to disband, this grouping of alliances would hold onto the free senate, even as outside alliances might consider moving to black to fill the void that the defunct GOONS had vacated. And so they did. Some, such as CIS, returned to black, and they formed their own blocs in order to control their own senate seat. DV members did not stop this action, as their presence was thus far enough to prevent the newcomers from claiming hold over all of the sphere. [/quote] Ah, memories. The heady post-GOONland Security Act days. Those days were a lot of fun for a "political rogue." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beefspari Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 [quote name='kevin32891' timestamp='1328841826' post='2917600'] So is GOONS going to reclaim its dominance over the black team once more? [/quote] Yes, we are. First we get sanction, then we disband NOIR behind the scenes. [img]http://meru.xfury.net/images/aeris/aerishehL6.jpg[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daikos Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 As one of the founding signatories of NOIR I couldn't be happier to see this. NOIR has long since served it's purpose and it deserves to be dead and burried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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