Leet Guy Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 [quote name='AirMe' timestamp='1308938834' post='2740546'] As I explained in the 3 PM's that I just got about my post, my opinion is that the risks of allying you guys outweigh the rewards of it. Whether you like it or not, the theme of your alliance attracts unsavory characters no matter how hard you try to weed them out. Maybe I have just been in the game of politics too long. Maybe I am too stuck in my old people ways. Fair or not it's what I think. I do like Zog though. [/quote] Yes, because MK is certainly known as an alliance that only allies "safe" alliances, counts each and every point of their infrastructure, and generally is scared of how the world will react to our actions. You definitely are someone who would know we shun alliances that all the cool kids like to shun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChairmanHal Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 [quote name='AirMe' timestamp='1308938834' post='2740546'] As I explained in the 3 PM's that I just got about my post, my opinion is that the risks of allying you guys outweigh the rewards of it. Whether you like it or not, the theme of your alliance attracts unsavory characters no matter how hard you try to weed them out. Maybe I have just been in the game of politics too long. Maybe I am too stuck in my old people ways. Fair or not it's what I think. I do like Zog though.[/quote] You should probably explain why German-themed alliances should have every single member closely scrutinized for possible racist OOC activities, yet Communist-themed alliances can operate as they see fit, without individual scrutiny, using all sorts of imagery of mass murderers and crushing totalitarian regimes "for fun" and to support their alliance theme. [i]OOC: Not just you of course, but other members of the this gaming community as well.[/i] The double standard is breath taking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperion321 Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 [quote name='ChairmanHal' timestamp='1308939907' post='2740560'] You should probably explain why German-themed alliances should have every single member closely scrutinized for possible racist OOC activities, yet Communist-themed alliances can operate as they see fit, without individual scrutiny, using all sorts of imagery of mass murderers and crushing totalitarian regimes "for fun" and to support their alliance theme. [i]OOC: Not just you of course, but other members of the this gaming community as well.[/i] The double standard is breath taking. [/quote] Does it help if I don't like socialism or communism? Monarchy has way better bonuses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImperialCubanacan Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 [quote name='Hyperion321' timestamp='1308940388' post='2740569'] Does it help if I don't like socialism or communism? Monarchy has way better bonuses. [/quote] Correct. It helps your economy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandwich Controversy Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Communism is objectively the best ideology, your soldiers fight better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirMe Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 [quote name='Leet Guy' timestamp='1308939661' post='2740557'] Yes, because MK is certainly known as an alliance that only allies "safe" alliances, counts each and every point of their infrastructure, and generally is scared of how the world will react to our actions. You definitely are someone who would know we shun alliances that all the cool kids like to shun. [/quote] I am not going down any kind of discussionary road with you after the type of behavior I know you support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirMe Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 [quote name='ChairmanHal' timestamp='1308939907' post='2740560'] You should probably explain why German-themed alliances should have every single member closely scrutinized for possible racist OOC activities, yet Communist-themed alliances can operate as they see fit, without individual scrutiny, using all sorts of imagery of mass murderers and crushing totalitarian regimes "for fun" and to support their alliance theme. [i]OOC: Not just you of course, but other members of the this gaming community as well.[/i] The double standard is breath taking. [/quote] As I said it was my opinion and I have no good answer for you. I don't really enjoy the commie alliances too much either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leet Guy Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 [quote name='AirMe' timestamp='1308940954' post='2740581'] I am not going down any kind of discussionary road with you after the type of behavior I know you support. [/quote] What kind of behavior is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperion321 Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 [quote name='Sandwich Controversy' timestamp='1308940869' post='2740578'] Communism is objectively the best ideology, your soldiers fight better. [/quote] But at what cost? AT WHAT COST! D: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir pwnage Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 [quote name='Sandwich Controversy' timestamp='1308940869' post='2740578'] Communism is objectively the best ideology, your soldiers fight better. [/quote] Don't forget how much better your spies get! [quote name='AirMe' timestamp='1308941085' post='2740583'] I don't really enjoy the commie alliances too much either. [/quote] Considering about 110k NS worth of Ronin is composed of ex-INT members, shove it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chefjoe Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 [quote name='AirMe' timestamp='1308938834' post='2740546'] As I explained in the 3 PM's that I just got about my post, my opinion is that the risks of allying you guys outweigh the rewards of it. Whether you like it or not, the theme of your alliance attracts unsavory characters no matter how hard you try to weed them out. Maybe I have just been in the game of politics too long. Maybe I am too stuck in my old people ways. Fair or not it's what I think. I do like Zog though. [/quote] This post I did not expect to see. Really Airme? Such judgment? Not that you will care but ive lost a little respect for you today... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChairmanHal Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 [quote name='Hyperion321' timestamp='1308940388' post='2740569'] Does it help if I don't like socialism or communism? Monarchy has way better bonuses. [/quote] My point... [img]http://www.okeefes.org/Favorite_Photos/Favorite_Photos_2/vapor_trail_100_0841.jpg[/img] If you squint, you can see it overhead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirMe Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 [quote name='chefjoe' timestamp='1308944175' post='2740611'] This post I did not expect to see. Really Airme? Such judgment? Not that you will care but ive lost a little respect for you today... [/quote] I too have my flaws. OOC: I talk to a lot of german players who have issues with the NoR imagery and symbol. Their views weigh heavily on my views Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Stupid Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 I love NoR so this is good to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Apocalypse Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 [quote name='Hyperion321' timestamp='1308941478' post='2740591'] But at what cost? AT WHAT COST! D: [/quote] Communism creates a negative environment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flak attack Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 [quote name='Sandwich Controversy' timestamp='1308940869' post='2740578'] Communism is objectively the best ideology, your soldiers fight better. [/quote] Anarchy is the best. It means you nuked someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D34th Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 [quote name='chefjoe' timestamp='1308944175' post='2740611'] Not that you will care but ive lost a little respect for you today... [/quote] For some reason this made me remember when Starfox101 used to say "You lost the respect of Cole Hamels(?)" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alterego Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 (edited) [quote]OOC: I talk to a lot of german players who have issues with the NoR imagery and symbol. Their views weigh heavily on my views [/quote] Wow, the whole process of adopting someone elses sense of being offended in 24 words. Thanks for that Edited June 24, 2011 by Alterego Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Carter Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 [quote name='Alterego' timestamp='1308825474' post='2739273'] After what Ive just been reading Im going to say good show MK. Congrats to both alliances. [/quote] This is unsettling... [img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_l5MgCkc8I7o/TQwtxCnwk7I/AAAAAAAAAFQ/DFYYZtckOD8/s1600/satan-snow-angel.jpg[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Flinders Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 [quote name='AirMe' timestamp='1308944729' post='2740617'] I too have my flaws. OOC: I talk to a lot of german players who have issues with the NoR imagery and symbol. Their views weigh heavily on my views [/quote] OOC: Well that explains a lot actually. Germans (in general) are the most oversensitive people to any and all imagery of previous German states. Hell, many German people are even offended by WW1 era imagery. Which is probably because the government has made it almost mandated by law to be ashamed and offended by any such imagery. But that's just a sad note on the state of German affairs in general. Or, we could all just grow up and play a game that represents countless themes and limitless imagery, and stop worrying about being offended about every little thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crispy99 Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 [quote name='Captain Flinders' timestamp='1308957120' post='2740732'] OOC: Well that explains a lot actually. Germans (in general) are the most oversensitive people to any and all imagery of previous German states. Hell, many German people are even offended by WW1 era imagery. Which is probably because the government has made it almost mandated by law to be ashamed and offended by any such imagery. But that's just a sad note on the state of German affairs in general. Or, we could all just grow up and play a game that represents countless themes and limitless imagery, and stop worrying about being offended about every little thing. [/quote] I found this post offensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mythicknight Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 [quote name='Crispy99' timestamp='1308957897' post='2740737'] I found this post offensive. [/quote] Your face is offensive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirMe Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 [quote name='Captain Flinders' timestamp='1308957120' post='2740732'] OOC: Well that explains a lot actually. Germans (in general) are the most oversensitive people to any and all imagery of previous German states. Hell, many German people are even offended by WW1 era imagery. Which is probably because the government has made it almost mandated by law to be ashamed and offended by any such imagery. But that's just a sad note on the state of German affairs in general. Or, we could all just grow up and play a game that represents countless themes and limitless imagery, and stop worrying about being offended about every little thing. [/quote] That is probably why I just kinda of let you guys be. I do believe you have a right to exist etc, etc, etc. But I am also entitled to my opinion. Just because it isn't my cup of tea doesn't mean it isn't someone elses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Apocalypse Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 [quote name='Captain Flinders' timestamp='1308957120' post='2740732'] OOC: Well that explains a lot actually. Germans (in general) are the most oversensitive people to any and all imagery of previous German states. Hell, many German people are even offended by WW1 era imagery. Which is probably because the government has made it almost mandated by law to be ashamed and offended by any such imagery. But that's just a sad note on the state of German affairs in general. Or, we could all just grow up and play a game that represents countless themes and limitless imagery, and [b]stop worrying about being offended about every little thing.[/b] [/quote] This can never happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cataduanes Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 [quote name='Captain Flinders' timestamp='1308957120' post='2740732'] OOC: Well that explains a lot actually. Germans (in general) are the most oversensitive people to any and all imagery of previous German states. Hell, many German people are even offended by WW1 era imagery. Which is probably because the government has made it almost mandated by law to be ashamed and offended by any such imagery. But that's just a sad note on the state of German affairs in general. Or, we could all just grow up and play a game that represents countless themes and limitless imagery, and stop worrying about being offended about every little thing. [/quote] OOC: All previous German states? I think you will find that states like Bavaria, Baden-W. and others have retained such imagery (i'e flags, coats of arms, etc).Even the old Imperial German flag is not outlawed. What is outlawed is imagery to do with the Third (Not Second) Reich. I find your comment rather offensive inasmuch that you view this state of affairs as somehow detrimental to German society, I think if you will find many Germans have no problem with banning of Third Reich imagery and Germany is a happy vibrant culture/society today without such rubbish...besides despite your supposed German ancestry (is that right Weiss? you have german ancestry?)what do you actually know about modern German society? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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