Johnny Apocalypse Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 [quote name='Arrnea' timestamp='1308689515' post='2737675'] We're not doing this to get the poached member back. We're doing this to demonstrate that actions have consequences. [/quote] No !@#$ sherlock. I didn't think you were trying to get poached members back because this is possibly the worst way to go about doing that and I know you're not that dense. My point is that if you lost members to poachers then it's no big deal because they were disloyal members in the first place and clearly didn't want to be in your alliance. It isn't something I'd goto war over and if the poaching got a certain point where I was hemorrhaging an absurd amount of members to the poachers then I would probably look at my own leadership abilities and see what the hell I'm doing wrong to cause so many people to leave. If you just cited the spying as your reason then I'd be cool with that but adding the poaching in there just makes you look weak and insecure about your own alliance and how commited your members are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banksy Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 [quote name='Locke' timestamp='1308686037' post='2737619'] Failed? Don't presume to know what we started this war to do. You'll know soon enough.[/quote] Moving the goal posts doesn't really work when everyone is watching you. Trying to claim a victory in this situation by retrospectively altering your goals won't work either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guffey Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 My support goes to NsO in this issue. SOS has shown absolutely zero relevant evidence of their accusations. Good luck NsO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoADarthCyfe6 Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Johnny Apocalypse' timestamp='1308689141' post='2737668'] The fact that you consider 'poaching' to be a CB(as well as the spying which is entirely understandable) suggests to me that you're afraid they'll actually succeed in convincing your members to leave. Which speaks volumes about how interesting your alliance must be if you're wiling to go to war over it to try and retain your membership. Also any member which does decide to leave as a result of the poachers probably wasn't worth having around anyway if a few sugary PMs are all it takes to get them to quit. If anything NsO are doing you a favour by taking the fickle out and leaving the loyal. [/quote] This is something I happen to thoroughly agree with. If your members are being poached, ok sure, you're mad about it and you !@#$%* at the poacher, however if you take a step back and actually look at the situation, then you will realize that those members being poached are clearly non loyal members. There's nothing I can't stand more then members who hop around alliances and have no loyalty ties. They deserve to leave or be poached, because they will eventually bail on that AA too. Edited June 21, 2011 by SoADarthCyfe6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Apocalypse Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 [quote name='MrMuz' timestamp='1308689874' post='2737682'] Strongly agreed about the poaching bit taking out disloyal members. But it is not a war over keeping those members, it's a war over the continuous, damaging harassment. After enough harassment, someone draws a line, and declares war when that line is crossed. Agree or disagree with the CB as you like, but it's why the war started. [/quote] When I said retaining members I meant retaining the members you currently have, as if to scare them into staying and not leaving to join NsO. Not to convince the poached members to come back because that would be futile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyt2k Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 If someone offers your members better cake than you have, don't kill the baker, learn to bake a better cake. However I do think people can run alliances however they wish and "I don't like u" should be a valid CB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlinus Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Incredible. It took longer to read to this point than it took for the two "combatants" to conclude hostilities? Incredible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Bad Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 [quote name='Arrnea' timestamp='1308689515' post='2737675'] We're not doing this to get the poached member back. We're doing this to demonstrate that actions have consequences. [/quote] Do you see how ironic that is now do you not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jens of the desert Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 [quote name='Hereno' timestamp='1308671635' post='2737319'] [center][img]http://i.imgur.com/zh5UL.png[/img] [size="6"]Attention Members of the SOS Brigade[/size] [/center] War. What is it good for? Nothing, if you ask me. Recently, we've taken note to your alliance's warpath, creating an Anime v Anime war over all but nothing except irrational hatred and Arrnea's delusions. Is that how a real alliance acts? I don't think so. Is this war really good for the spread of anime on Bob? Hardly. I'd like to personally invite you all to join Tetris, an alliance with class, who seeks to use our words before using our fists. Upon joining Tetris, you will be given access to the following: 1. Access to an alliance not lead by Arrnea. 2. [b]Access to our anime archives[/b], with more tapes and magazines than we can count (or ever would want to). 3. But most importantly, an alliance not lead by Arrnea. In addition to all of this, Tetris is situated right next to the other (and much better) anime-themed alliance on this world, so you'll never be too far away from your favorite pass-time! If you're interested, just head over to our forums and post your application. Please note that this invitation is for [b]current SOS Brigade members, and SOS Brigade members [u]only[/u].[/b] Thank you for your time! I hope to see you all very soon! [/quote] The anime archives are a lie! Also, pastime, not pass-time, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youwish959 Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Hey Locke, are you gonna wipe Xiphosis' ass and wash his briefs, now that you made him !@#$ himself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wickedj Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 [quote name='Varianz' timestamp='1308689575' post='2737677'] Consequences like almost getting yourselves rolled, and needing Xiphosis to step in and save your asses? [/quote] Thats the greatest freakin' part of all of this, all these people on the first pages who are all YEAH WE GOT YOUR BACK!!! and now theyre "oh snap, you guys need to end this NOW" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShouAS Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 [quote name='wickedj' timestamp='1308691717' post='2737708'] Thats the greatest freakin' part of all of this, all these people on the first pages who are all YEAH WE GOT YOUR BACK!!! and now theyre "oh snap, you guys need to end this NOW" [/quote] Probably because every alliance no directly involved has been "this is stupid, if we can stay out we will" apart from those who want it to escalate for fun and bloodshed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elrich von Richt Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 [quote name='Arrnea' timestamp='1308689515' post='2737675'] We're not doing this to get the poached member back. We're doing this to demonstrate that actions have consequences. [/quote] You'll find your early Christmas Present wrapped up in a silver bow on your doorstep. Unfortunately, you're lucky we're nice, and happen to enjoy taking the high ground unlike you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biff Webster Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 I thought moralists were responsible for making things boring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varianz Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 [quote name='ShouAS' timestamp='1308691927' post='2737709'] Probably because every alliance no directly involved has been "this is stupid, if we can stay out we will" apart from those who want it to escalate for fun and bloodshed [/quote] Actually it's because SF !@#$ themselves when they ran the numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schad Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 [quote name='wickedj' timestamp='1308691717' post='2737708'] Thats the greatest freakin' part of all of this, all these people on the first pages who are all YEAH WE GOT YOUR BACK!!! and now theyre "oh snap, you guys need to end this NOW" [/quote] To be fair, when someone $%&@s up as badly as it appears SOS has, getting them to peace out with their tails between their legs is probably the most supportive thing they could do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz Ferdinand Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 [quote name='wickedj' timestamp='1308691717' post='2737708'] Thats the greatest freakin' part of all of this, all these people on the first pages who are all YEAH WE GOT YOUR BACK!!! and now theyre "oh snap, you guys need to end this NOW" [/quote] It's a good thing I haven't changed my stance on this situation, isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsuki Koizumi Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 worst war ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogaden Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 [quote name='Itsuki Koizumi' timestamp='1308692895' post='2737760'] worst war ever [/quote] You obviously weren't around for the TPF war Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omniscient1 Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 [quote name='James Dahl' timestamp='1308693737' post='2737812'] You obviously weren't around for the TPF war [/quote] to be fair I think this is worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyt2k Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 LoSS officially supports NoR in this matter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janax Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 [quote name='Omniscient1' timestamp='1308696019' post='2737895'] to be fair I think this is worse. [/quote] Sadly yes...one of the few alliances I dislike more than TPF started this...and deserved to be rolled for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Chickenzilla should have joined NsO prior to this, then you'd have had a CB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pansy Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 [quote name='Penlugue Solaris' timestamp='1308697174' post='2737918'] Chickenzilla should have joined NsO prior to this, then you'd have had a CB. [/quote] Or a disbandment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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