the rebel Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 A lot of words for a DoW, you could of slimmed it down to "doom squad failed its offensive in making invicta call in allies so let's try this maybe that would work". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varianz Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 Both are pretty much identical to be honest. This is accurate. We all know this war was coming; SNX just made the mistake that allowed it to happen. I have finally had time to read NPO's DoW fully and it gives me more questions than answers. Letum you spend a lot of time trying to convince this world your attack wasn't out of a desire for vengeance or retribution but then include this line all on it's own as a firm statement, "But choices have consequences". I'm good with either but please man up and own the truth. You go on then to talk about bringing Order to the world, please just find me one person who believes that. We all need a common laugh! You rave on about the people who "sold you out" but have spent months sucking up to them for a treaty. I'm glad they threw you a bone in the end as it was pathetic to watch. Finally you leave the best for last with this gem, "NPO will not once again become victim to an easy political calculation: to be sold out for a short-term diplomatic gain". Followed by admitting you attacked SNX because you were ordered to by your new masters. Please drop the whole false pretence. Attacking an alliance who played no part in forming the coalition who defeated you and had no part in the entire discussion on terms is a gutless cop out. We are over here, not militarised and with only one out of three hundred members in peace mode. Nut up Pacifica, if you want us come to us directly and stop this whole charade. I'll even offer you this public promise of fighting you one on one without calling in allies. I would kill to see this. Also, good post. Anyways, good luck NPO, we're not allied anymore but I still have a soft spot for you guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexio15 Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 (edited) Sadly this is what our world has come to. Oh someone out there deserves it that is for sure Edited November 13, 2014 by Alexio15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
commanderragnar Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 o/ Pacifica! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carter0912 Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 o/ Dajobo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shahenshah Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 o/ Dajobo Are you the famous Carter from the scene? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord bagel Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 Dajobo is definitely my favorite player on my side of things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letum Posted November 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 (edited) I have finally had time to read NPO's DoW fully and it gives me more questions than answers.Letum you spend a lot of time trying to convince this world your attack wasn't out of a desire for vengeance or retribution but then include this line all on it's own as a firm statement, "But choices have consequences". I'm good with either but please man up and own the truth.You go on then to talk about bringing Order to the world, please just find me one person who believes that. We all need a common laugh!You rave on about the people who "sold you out" but have spent months sucking up to them for a treaty. I'm glad they threw you a bone in the end as it was pathetic to watch.Finally you leave the best for last with this gem, "NPO will not once again become victim to an easy political calculation: to be sold out for a short-term diplomatic gain". Followed by admitting you attacked SNX because you were ordered to by your new masters.Please drop the whole false pretence. Attacking an alliance who played no part in forming the coalition who defeated you and had no part in the entire discussion on terms is a gutless cop out.We are over here, not militarised and with only one out of three hundred members in peace mode. Nut up Pacifica, if you want us come to us directly and stop this whole charade. I'll even offer you this public promise of fighting you one on one without calling in allies.What you did in the last war did not engender a desire for revenge (in myself at least), but rather burn through any goodwill I might have to go against the wishes of my allies for your benefit. It's nothing personal, I just don't believe it would be returned, so why bother? There is nothing special in our target selection. Like any coalition, fronts are divided out between alliances before hand, and SNX happened to be the first to open up. Yes, we came in on an oA...hardly the stuff of legends. I have not attacked Polar because I have no reason to. I have attacked your ally because I have no reason not to. The consequences which you refer to is you removing any reason for me to hold back. It doesn't mean I am after you, though I freely admit my allies are after you, and I'm happy to give them my support. In regards to your 1v1 offer...why? What does a 1v1 accomplish? I don't have any war boner to get rid of, I don't have any personal desire to fight you, and since a 1v1 would take place in a void separate of any coalition, I would not be supporting my allies. So, why so it? I am willing to consider it (though it may be out of my ability to deliver), but you'll need to give some good reasoning. As to your comment about us conducting the very same political maneuver we criticise your side for...you are correct. That is exactly what we are doing. Not out of a petty attempt to implement a tooth for a tooth, but for the same reason you did it last year. Political gain. We're all swimming in the same mud. Edited November 13, 2014 by Letum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dilber Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 I read words occasionally. These are good words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carter0912 Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 Are you the famous Carter from the scene? Whatever do you mean! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shahenshah Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 Whatever do you mean! Definately him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branimir Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 What seems to be the problem Polar? Ooooo, it sucks now, doesn't it? Oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 This thread is getting good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
commanderragnar Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 Best thing I've seen all day(so far) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 Having made the IRC rounds this evening, I was surprised at just how many people were happy to hit SNX because a certain individual had once been a member. While he will no doubt revel in the attention, the fact that he's too dense to understand how much he's universally loathed makes this all the more enjoyable. I'm not even on a side and I wouldn't mind hitting SNX simply for having him as a founder, the fact he is THAT bad for PR would normally be a wake up call. You know, it doesn't really count as "fickle" when people say they would prefer you have good reasons for things. Of course, good is a subjective term, but I think this qualifies as "we all know this is !@#$%^&*" Every single war in the history of our war has argubly been fought on bullshit pretenses, it comes down to can you get away with fighting said war under those pretenses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrJLa Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 Best thing I've seen all day(so far) To his credit, he successfully anarchied all three of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewie Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 I expect to see the XX/Platysphere declaration of war in defense of Polaris later today!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercoolyellow Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 Best thing I've seen all day(so far) I was literally asking for odds in our private channel that some noob would do this. If only I had taken the 8:2 odds, I would have made a good many dollars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles the Tyrant Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 Best thing I've seen all day(so far) This used to be a regular occurrence once upon a time. Alas, not so common these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 Having made the IRC rounds this evening, I was surprised at just how many people were happy to hit SNX because a certain individual had once been a member. While he will no doubt revel in the attention, the fact that he's too dense to understand how much he's universally loathed makes this all the more enjoyable. Because someone who [ooc]wants to take a gun to Hawaii to shoot me[/ooc] is always a great source of credible information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchboy00 Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 Sadly this is what our world has come to. Its been like this for a long time. It will happen again next year. Probably NPO getting it again who knows. Their new friends are great ones though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 I was once a member of the New Pacific Order. How far it has fallen to fight on behalf of the same people who sanctioned a prominent member. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Paul Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 Yes, yes, yes, everyone wants to talk about the words... What about the song? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereno Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 letum is such a second rate emperorblah blah party lines, blah blah pretending the owf matters, dude you suck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 Vlad probably wrote OP anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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