pezstar Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 Siberian Tiger Alliance Cadet is (obviously) the Siberian Tiger Alliance's Cadet AA. This is where folks go while they're in our training program until they are granted full access and membership. To most people, it's obvious. They're part of STA, and we protect them. To others, it's not. So I'm going to be a little frank here. We are a very "nice" alliance. We have a reputation for being nice and calm and liking to stick to ourselves and being easy to work with. This probably translates into a reputation for being pushovers. I don't know if folks keep raiding our cadet AA because they think they can get away with it or if they're just dumb. I know there are a lot of dumb people out here, but I think you have to be pretty moronic to look at our cadet AA and assume it's ok to raid it, despite the clear name, because it has a small amount of people in it. We don't care if your charter allows you to raid alliances with less than 10, 15 or 20 members. Actually, we don't particularly care who your charter allows you to raid. If you raid the clearly labeled STA Cadet AA, you're peacing out your war and sending the requisite amount of reps. This has happened about a dozen times in the last 30 days. In some of the cases, folks have actually told us "Too bad, it's allowed by our charter." Really. I'm getting pretty tired of spending hours trying to peacefully resolve these issues over and over again. Yeah, yeah. It's my job. I get that. I'm lazy. And they're being stupid. Stop raiding our cadets. If you screw up and raid them, when we come to you, peace it out and pay the reps. It's really that simple. If you want to argue about why you shouldn't pay reps, we're just going to take them from you forcibly. TL;DR: For those who are too dense to figure it out, the Siberian Tiger Alliance Cadet AA is protected by the Siberian Tiger Alliance. Leave them alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktarthan Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 My first instinct when reading this was to check the GOONS war screen. I'm glad it was not us this time. Good luck getting sorted out, and hopefully raiders will have more sense in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D34th Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 Mess with Siberian Tigers and Polar bears will visit you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pezstar Posted June 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 [quote name='ktarthan' date='17 June 2010 - 05:14 PM' timestamp='1276809244' post='2340993'] My first instinct when reading this was to check the GOONS war screen. I'm glad it was not us this time. Good luck getting sorted out, and hopefully raiders will have more sense in the future. [/quote] Nope. You had a couple of brand new guys did it a few weeks back, but were really easy to work with about it. I think it took about 5 sentences. "Yeah, those are our guys." "Oh, crap, we're sorry, how much do we owe you?" "xxx$" "Ok, here you go." "Thanks, have a nice day." Which is how it should be. It's not a difficult process. TAKE A LESSON FROM GOONS, CN. (I can't believe I just said that.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baltus Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 The Level of Stupidity has raised to a hundred in micros across Bob. Pezstar, I feel bad for you for dealing with that. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omniscient1 Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 [quote name='pezstar' date='17 June 2010 - 10:16 PM' timestamp='1276809378' post='2340997'] Nope. You had a couple of brand new guys did it a few weeks back, but were really easy to work with about it. I think it took about 5 sentences. "Yeah, those are our guys." "Oh, crap, we're sorry, how much do we owe you?" "xxx$" "Ok, here you go." "Thanks, have a nice day." [b]Which is how it should be. It's not a difficult process.[/b] TAKE A LESSON FROM GOONS, CN. (I can't believe I just said that.) [/quote] Or you could always just use common sense and not raid them in the first place. Yea, pretty dumb someone would do that. Best of luck STA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix von Agnu Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 What genius would actually say that they could raid a protected AA because their charter allows it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pezstar Posted June 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 [quote name='Felix von Agnu' date='17 June 2010 - 05:20 PM' timestamp='1276809640' post='2341002'] What genius would actually say that they could raid a protected AA because their charter allows it. [/quote] http://www.cybernations.net/search_wars.asp?search=397647&Extended=1 It happened just today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluffyewunga Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 Some people are just to dense for words. Many alliances use "noob" AA's these day. Get with the program people and make sure your members know to leave them alone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pomiel Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 lol epic fail Give 'em what's coming, STA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementual Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 I'm sorry that you even had to spend time writing this announcement up, pezstar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banksy Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 It's lucky those GOONS are so considerate and polite. They should write an etiquette book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Ilyani Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 It's quite sad that people are dim enough to need an announcement like this. I see your frustration. Some people just don't have class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorponok Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 Seriously this is why we need a law for making sure new alliances can actually function before existing. Honestly, if you're stupid enough to raid an AA, you deserve the repercussions. Sorry to hear about this STA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alistair Thorrington Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 But it's in our charter! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael von Prussia Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 This has to be the dumbest announcement anyone's had to make. Seriously, if your Charter allows raiding, at least educate your members on what cadet and applicant alliances are. Good luck sorting this out, STA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernsters Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 Silly n00bs. when SJB comes across rogues or raiders.. we don't ask for reps. we give our members the means to take them. Best wishes to all your Cadets STA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoo Nova Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 [quote name='Scorponok' date='17 June 2010 - 07:05 PM' timestamp='1276815882' post='2341133'] Seriously this is why we need a law for making sure new alliances can actually function before existing. Honestly, if you're stupid enough to raid an AA, you deserve the repercussions. Sorry to hear about this STA. [/quote] Social Darwinism my good friend. These idiots are doing us a service. Best of luck STA in dealing with these idiots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utracia Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 What else needs to be said? I just hope the noobs learn their lesson without the need for STA troops to teach it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Louis the II Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 This announcement should not be necessary... pretty obvious that STA cadets are STA... I guess there are still some very dumb people in planet BOB... Good luck to STA in solving these problems... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Janova Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 Can I raid the AA 'Siberian Tiger Alliance'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoindotnler Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 Force them to put "Protected by STA" in there bio. When there is still some one stupid enough to raid, roll there entire alliance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathcat Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 sad to say.. lots of noobs = lots of headaches.. I commend the STA for not unleashing its wrath on those vultures attacking your cubs... I think you could always turn this into more academy work.. coordinated Pest Control.. each attack gets 2 + stagger .. nice for war training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wickedj Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 [quote name='xoindotnler' date='17 June 2010 - 07:22 PM' timestamp='1276820553' post='2341233'] Force them to put "Protected by STA" in there bio. When there is still some one stupid enough to raid, roll there entire alliance. [/quote] Why? Next youll suggest that everyone on the STA AA put the same thing in their bio. If you arent smart enough to realize an applicant/cadet AA such as GOONS or STA then you need not be raiding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoindotnler Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 [quote name='wickedj' date='18 June 2010 - 03:29 AM' timestamp='1276824576' post='2341302'] Why? Next youll suggest that everyone on the STA AA put the same thing in their bio. If you arent smart enough to realize an applicant/cadet AA such as GOONS or STA then you need not be raiding [/quote] That was what I meant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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