Lord of Destruction Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 I don't doubt that. But the address... addresses none of the problems with the NPO right now. Excuse me one second - would you please enlighten me as to what you believe to be a problem in the Order right now? Can you tell me how the leaders of Pacifica are oppressing their own kind, or anyone else? Are you aware of any specific interesting tid-bits of information that somehow allows you to vaguely state that there are problems with Pacifica? Personally, I don't think you can answer any of those questions very well, if at all. The previous war, the one about Karmic revenge, was one by the side who had things to get revenge for. In the surrender terms, Pacifica had all diplomatic ties severed, and was put under the largest amount of reps we will probably ever see, at least for a long time. I am not in Pacifica, so I cannot completely tell you what the common Pacifican is feeling, or how they see this, but I was in the Order less than 2 months ago. Your time in the Order ended over two years ago, and I highly doubt it was an extremely long stay anyway. You cannot possibly hope to even understand what Pacificans are really like nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Wolf Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 Happy anniversary, Pacifica! For better or worse, Planet Bob has definitely been interesting for your presence. I look forward to seeing what your alliance will be like after you complete peace terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anhur Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 Here's to proudly remembering our accomplishments, humbly learning from our mistakes, and looking to the future! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
He Who Has No Name Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 (edited) Isn't it possible for the leadership to, themselves, change? They haven't shown the capability or the inclination so far, and this address is further proof of that shortcoming. Pacifica still believes in Pacifica Uber Alles. If that includes taking your lands, raping your horses and riding home on your women, they're okay with that and don't care if you aren't - because as they're so fond of saying, they're stronger than you. The only thing different right now is that they're not stronger. When that changes... it's back to business as usual. Until Pacifica renounces their belief in expanding and enriching Pacifica at the cost of others, nothing has changed. Edited August 30, 2009 by He Who Has No Name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoADarthCyfe6 Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 Congratz to NPO!! 6 years? Thats Incredible You guys survived alot! We'll see were you go from here o/ NPO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shahenshah Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 Congrats on your Birthday Pacifia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cataduanes Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 6 years huh, how many are left in your ranks who even remember the migration from the ''other game'' i wonder. Anyway congratz and all that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haflinger Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 Until Pacifica renounces their belief in expanding and enriching Pacifica at the cost of others, nothing has changed. Well... • The Pacifican community will embrace the values of discipline and respect; respect to each other, the chain of command, and the community at large. Assuming what you say is true, looks like they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King MyLife Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 Congrats NPO on your Bday...hope to see you another 3 more years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iskander Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 Congratulations, NPO. May you enjoy many more such celebrations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzzptm Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 FAN's official response to this announcement shall consist of a wary, raised eyebrow. I'll have what he's having. Seems to help keep the mind clear. Actions > Words and Friends > Infra. When I see NPO take a big hit for an ally, I'll believe it's got a new direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hertugen Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 Congratulations, If there's one thing you guys truly are, It's Resilient. So are cockroaches. Happy B-day I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thierra Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 Pacifica still believes in Pacifica Uber Alles. If that includes taking your lands, raping your horses and riding home on your women, they're okay with that and don't care if you aren't - because as they're so fond of saying, they're stronger than you. It must be nice to live in an alliance whose sole reason to live is to talk about/against/around/near/adjacent to Pacifica. I imagine that must grow quite tiresome. I miss the days when everyone on that end of the Cyberverse got off on Neutral-Shoving. The Pacifica-must-die schpeel is as antiquated as the in-game Land feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurney Halleck Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 Congrats on the anniversary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordliam Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 I've never really done this before... but, o/ Pacfica, may Francograd and the lush green fields surrounding continue to prosper until the end of Planet Bob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal Paradise Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 Well...Assuming what you say is true, looks like they did. I initially read "the community at large" to refer to the NPO as a whole, but that's a fair reading. And indeed while everyone moans about how poorly the NPO treats its own members and this community, no one ever champions the cause of the chain of command. For all of Karma's moralizing, they've completely ignored its plight. Kudos to the NPO for encouraging respect for the chain of command on their own volition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Paul Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 Odd. These non-Pacifican states seem to expect: 1) A speech to the Body Republic of the Order simulcast to the OWF would address them. 2) Any structural chages would occur on Aug 28, when it was explicitly stated in TT 150 that those changes DO NOT HAPPEN on Aug 28. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerdge Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 Nice read. Happy Revolution Day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mongol-Swedes Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 A chain of command don't mean much if you haven't got much use for it. Seeing as how we've gone over three years without one, it's a fair chance that it does not, in fact, take Order to ensure Survival. We're keeping an eye on you guys. Get too close to the 'trees' and there'll be plenty of green glowing delight of another variety to go around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriegsdrachen Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 They haven't shown the capability or the inclination so far, and this address is further proof of that shortcoming.Pacifica still believes in Pacifica Uber Alles. If that includes taking your lands, raping your horses and riding home on your women, they're okay with that and don't care if you aren't - because as they're so fond of saying, they're stronger than you. Having pride in our accomplishments =/= thinking we are better than everyone. I find that distinction fairly easy to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkerNinja Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 Congratulations to Pacifica. I wish you well as your perpetual revolution revolves onward. O7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrin Xies Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 As someone working on the ground floor of the diplomatic changes that the Order has set in place, I can bring assurances that what the Emperor has said is true. While I wouldn't say that the Order is now all about singing "Kum Ba Yah" and caring for lost kittens, what you will see from here on out is the "new" New Pacific Order. We are capable of responding to criticism and taking outside advice, and all we can do is ask for patience as we strive to show the world we mean what we say. o/ The New Pacific Order, and may we continue to prosper and regrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus Autumn Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 We're keeping an eye on you guys. Get too close to the 'trees' and there'll be plenty of green glowing delight of another variety to go around. There's nothing that brings a smile to my face quite like a thinly veiled threat during a celebration. Cheers to you as well! Outstanding to have been with Pacifica to mark this occasion. I look forward to being part of these exciting times as we take another great step forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dejarue Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 (edited) [redacted] Edited August 31, 2009 by deja Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Un4Gvn1 Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 Wonderful goals Moo. I wish you all good fortune in attaining them. /OOC: 6 years 3 years here ... it seems like it would be very difficult for a new person to assimilate into the group at this point. Comment, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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