Supa_Troop3r Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 Hey Moo, remember when you asked TDSM8 to pay more reps than we had? Remember when you changing the terms and holding us demilitarized for 6 months killed our alliance? Remember when you asked Athens for 6/7 of their tech? Remember when you held GATO in a viceroy for a year? Remember when you perma warred FAN? Remember all the people you forced out of this game? Remember all the homes you destroyed? Shut the $%&@ up. You are playing a pity boat when you deserve none. Im so sick of you guys trying to act like you deserve any better than this. I think is sums it up.. Also I believe I read in the OP. You don't Support EZI? Correct me if I am wrong? Johnathan Brookbank was on a EZI? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essenia Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 they look pretty damnwell on their way tor recovery I think. Their growth isn't anything special, their current NS is pitiful. And of course perpetual war has a pretty crushing effect on warchests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angrator Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 These terms are more than fair. You would do well to accept them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F15pilotX Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 It does. Eventually it'll come around back to them, its how the cycle works.Sounds good to me; we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stumpy Jung Il Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 Wait WHAT? The only reason you aren't doing the same is because we didn't accept the terms. You would do far worse if you could, and probably still will if given the opportunity.Nice Try. Orly? Cause I dont see those terms asking you guys to disband. Try again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Stupid Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 Oppressive Terms ehh? Suck it up. I hope FIRE has nothing to do with you except sharing the same sphere. But this is funny to me. I love to see bullies squeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddog241 Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 Karma hypocrisy at it's very best is illustrated in those terms. Did those fighting NPO really became so blinded by their own hate that they can no longer see what they have become? hmmm NPO extorted lots from many alliances, and made quite a few disband. idk if you ask me. these terms are pretty light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canehda Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 Hey Moo, remember when you asked TDSM8 to pay more reps than we had? Remember when you changing the terms and holding us demilitarized for 6 months killed our alliance? Remember when you asked Athens for 6/7 of their tech? Remember when you held GATO in a viceroy for a year? Remember when you perma warred FAN? Remember all the people you forced out of this game? Remember all the homes you destroyed? Shut the $%&@ up. You are playing a pity boat when you deserve none. Im so sick of you guys trying to act like you deserve any better than this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoppistan Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 NPO has their choice. They can accept these terms now or in 6 months. The terms will not change These alliances will create a pyrrhic victory then. The cycle of karma continues until one is morally strong enough to break free with right action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The AUT Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 Don't expect me to support your cause anymore, Karma. Loading pile of BS you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F15pilotX Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 Orly? Cause I dont see those terms asking you guys to disband. Try again.They would have much the same effect as disbanding and reforming under a different name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwthegreat Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 Wow! All I can say is wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruthenia Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 And for Karma -Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one. "Hey, we're monsters, don't be like us!" Well played sir, well played. One wonders why they gagged you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Co God Ben Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 Private channels ftw. Contact an NPO Imperial Officer. I find that an ironic thing to say in this topic, when the majority of the OP should be handled in private channels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 they got a long way to get back where they once were they have no interest in being a top alliance again. Their growth isn't anything special, their current NS is pitiful. And of course perpetual war has a pretty crushing effect on warchests. sorry we're all not Citadel alliances, and thank you for admitting one of the main points of those on the hegemony side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Jimmy Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 I can understand the anger on both sides. The monetary reps I have no problem with; perhaps a bit harsh, but no more so than I would expect NPO to give if they were in Karma's position. However, the military terms do seem a bit disturbing. No need to make this a perpetual war, there have been too many. There is a difference between justice and vengeance, and I want to see justice done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proxian Empire Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 Don't expect me to support your cause anymore, Karma. Loading pile of BS you are. You've never supported Karma. What are you talking about Misr? Your comments do nothing to help your point of view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essenia Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 maybe this is just me, but I spent over 120 million during a week of warfare at the 6k infra range, so I would think after 2 weeks of warfare any warchests remaining are going to be running thin. All they are doing now it turtling completely, which costs 5 million a day or turtling+nuke, which is somewhat more expensive, but not that much so. Also, you have a lot of low level karma nations that may not be the best at fighting which will result in smaller losses than what 'should' be dealt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkenstein Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 Don't expect me to support your cause anymore, Karma. Loading pile of BS you are. What a pile of BS this is. Like you ever supported our cause Misr. This is a bigger joke than Moo's post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhawk Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 Hey man, Im still waiting for any of you posters to address my post. You guys are trying to dance around the subject of your crimes by saying "no u" and its not working. You have done far more than you joke around about. Its not a joke mate. You destroyed homes, including mine, and you are lucky that we arnt you cause we arnt doing the same. Athens had what, 14k tech reps? like what 80-90% of their tech as a small alliance. The counter offer to these terms is equal to 244% of their current tech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deerokus Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 (edited) Pretty poor from whoever it was who came up with those terms relating to peace mode nations. I can only imagine they weren't meant to be accepted, in much the same way as happened to an alliance I used to be a member of that became the targets of the same mob-mentality as the NPO seem to have. There doesn't appear to be any rational logic behind them. Just another example of the kind of thing I really dislike about this world. Vaguely plausible terms plz kthnx. Edited June 13, 2009 by jonny cardboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qaianna Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 Would any on the 'Karma' side be willing to discuss why the Order's counteroffer (of more cash but less restrictions on who sends it, and less bombing prior to paying) was rejected? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stumpy Jung Il Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 They would have much the same effect as disbanding and reforming under a different name. No they dont. They arnt even impossible. Are you really dense or just acting like it? You guys asked for more tech of us than we even had. You guys are gonna baaaaaw over terms that arnt even proportionally as bad as what you've given to others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikeCat Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 NPO: Ha, I just robbed a bank.Karma: We sentence you to 20 years in prison. And you have to pay damages. NPO: Hypocrite!!!!!!!!! I'd say it went a bit more like this. NPO: Ha, I just robbed a bank. Karma: Ok now I'm going to cripple you limb by limb and leave you a bloody mess *NPO covers their face in a feeble attempt to stay the blows* Karma: Ok now move your arms and let us punch you in the face for 14 days, then you'll be giving me all your money for a year. While NPO deserved to be taken down a notch, do you think this is true justice or "karma". This is vengeance and its disgusting. This goes beyond what is honorable. And as is our motto, karma comes full circle. I'd hate to be some of my comrades in Karma when it does come back around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of Destruction Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 There is much bawwing going on in this thread. I must say, I liked the general membership of NPO better when they were under a gag order. As a member of the Order, I apologize that you do not enjoy reading our posts. When a coalition of people are screaming for our blood, we should remain calm and have no emotions whatsoever. Or we can express our opinion that there are certain terms in the surrender terms we were given that are entirely to "punish" us for all grievances we've caused over the past 3 years. We have been constantly criticized about how long we've kept grudges and we've been criticized in the surrender threads that the terms we gave were because of the grudges we held. Are these terms based on more than just this war? Obviously. But how much before this war? WotC? GWIII? Are those who're in a position to finally dictate the terms they wanted to hand to us in GWI now in a position to hand such terms to us? Is anyone able to state exactly where these numbers came from, and who thought of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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