F15pilotX

Ahh been waiting for this for a while. Can't wait!

Congrats to both of you! Those images...good stuff there, I like.

Congrats y'all!

I like this. Good stuff.

[quote name='Qazzian' date='20 May 2010 - 03:05 PM' timestamp='1274382332' post='2305516'] Didn't we just sign a treaty with your alliance? Maybe rephrasing your rhetoric to something more positive will yield better results. [/quote]It's Penkala, Qazzian. We're always on 'the other side', to him.

That newspaper was pretty cool. Grats on the anniversary!

Smaller gov/fewer elections, good stuff. o/ Ragnarok, good luck with the new gov.

[quote name='SpectreTehDestroyer' date='20 May 2010 - 02:04 PM' timestamp='1274378650' post='2305415'] Congrats Pacifica. Feels good to roam free right? Have a good one! Beer is on me. [/quote]I like you. What kind of beer? [quote name='Ardus' date='20 May 2010 - 02:17 PM' timestamp='1274379412' post='2305438'] One lump and a bit of toast will do just fine. [/quote]Anything on the toast?

[quote name='ShinRa' date='20 May 2010 - 01:41 PM' timestamp='1274377270' post='2305373']Also, have we met before? No offence but most Pacificans have very little to differentiate themselves from other members of the Order.[/quote]You're cute.

o/ The Order o/ TPF Good to see.

Good stuff.

Hail, took long enough.

Hail the NPO!

Grats y'all.

[quote name='NationRuler' date='04 May 2010 - 06:25 PM' timestamp='1273015500' post='2286917'] No I wouldn't. It's the same NPO. And I don't give a clean slate to GOONS, \m/, or /b/. If they didn't want to be the same alliance, they wouldn't have the same name.[/quote]I'm glad you know us better than we know us.

[quote name='Mansa Musa' date='03 May 2010 - 11:21 PM' timestamp='1272946890' post='2286048'][quote name='F15pilotX' date='03 May 2010 - 11:07 PM' timestamp='1272946044' post='2286019'] The fact that the two single largest tangible amounts of reparations to an alliance ever demanded, and the two most destructive wars in history have both been demanded/happened since NPO fell from the top spot. Not going to argue here, but I found that amusing. [/quote]I think the reparations demanded of ONOS and the NPONOS Massacre still rank higher than anything that's happened as of recent. Mostly because the reparations of ONOS took what once was the strongest alliance on Maroon, a sanctioned alliance at that, and destroyed it permanently. I am aware that other sanctioned alliances have been destroyed in the past, but all have managed to come back in some way, shape or form. ONOS, on the other hand, went from being sanctioned to decimation. It's one thing to demand thousands of Tech and Financial Reparations from an alliance, but it was quite another for NPO to have demanded to give the control of the ONOS forum to the NPONOS Viceroy or else face further destruction. That was borderline illegal at the time, I'm sad that it wasn't outright against the rules to do such a thing as it is now.[/quote]I specifically said "tangible" reparations so that people wouldn't respond to me with posts like yours; obviously that flew over your head. Obviously you're a tad bitter (just a tad ) over that, but since you want to be like that, I'll respond. [quote name='Mansa Musa' date='03 May 2010 - 11:21 PM' timestamp='1272946890' post='2286048']So, please get off your high horse. You and the rest of you NPO Righteous posters. I bet you weren't even around for the NPONOS Incident, because I find it completely insane that you would make such remarks - you obviously can't have been around from that era.[/quote]Where is my righteous NPO "high horse"? I never even mentioned my opinion of my alliance, or its acts, in my post. My response was lighthearted in the first part, and I was simply pointing out a stupid comment in the last part. As to your second snide comment, I have been around since November 2006, so thank you very much I was around for it; no need for the arrogant, condescending attitude. I actually hung out on the ONOS forums for a few months (this was before the war), which made your ignorant assumption pretty funny to me, personally. Again, I made the remarks specifically about one area, because I found it ironic. That you wanted to bring up other issues was entirely up to you, and I neither asked nor wanted you to. [quote name='Mansa Musa' date='03 May 2010 - 11:21 PM' timestamp='1272946890' post='2286048']Do I hate NPO? No, this is a game, what's done is done. You can't change the past. Is NPO a successful alliance? Why yes, they were basically the victors of the game for years on end. They're making a comeback, and the fact that this thread celebrates the 6th Year of the Order is quite an achievement. For that, I congratulate you. But also, I would like to advise you guys to stick to the "Evil Empire" persona that was once adopted so vehemently by NPO posters of not-long-ago. It fit you guys better, no one played the villain as well as you did. So, stick to that. It's a lot more believable and certainly a lot more acknowledgeable of your position in the Cyberverse.[/quote]For as much as you complain(ed) about the NPO being evil and bad, you sure do seem to have loved it when we played the part. Hey, at least you can complain about us not acting our "part" soon - that'll give you something more current to blame us for [quote name='Shodemofi' date='03 May 2010 - 11:44 PM' timestamp='1272948251' post='2286086']You know, that largest reparations bit is a nice talking point, but is rather misleading. With the hyperinflation of money and tech as time goes on in the Cyberverse, it's only natural that nominal values of reparations would grow, however that doesn't mean that reparations are any more harsh than they were before. If you had a number based on percentage of tech owned, that would mean more.[/quote]Funny you mention that, because we actually had to pay more than 100% of the tech we had at the signing of terms in reparations. The hyperinflation argument only goes so far - then reality sets in. [quote name='Shodemofi' date='03 May 2010 - 11:44 PM' timestamp='1272948251' post='2286086']And lastly, reparations aren't just about money, NPO implemented numerous other terms that alliances would have rather paid tens of thousands of technology than adhere to.[/quote]And I do believe you were part of NPO Military Command during a very long stretch of that time. Funny how things change [quote name='Il Impero Romano' date='04 May 2010 - 01:28 AM' timestamp='1272954472' post='2286186'] You know, in reality Pacifica has been pretty cooperative and relatively good natured throughout this whole process despite what these kinds of arguments may lead one to believe, but I gotta wonder, what the hell are you guys gonna have to scream about once the terms are done? lol[/quote]Hopefully nothing.

Two bits of irony I found a bit funny: [quote name='Lord Brendan' date='03 May 2010 - 09:26 PM' timestamp='1272939958' post='2285809'] However, large reparations are certainly not as widespread as they were under the Pacifican regime...[/quote] [quote name='Lord Brendan' date='03 May 2010 - 09:26 PM' timestamp='1272939958' post='2285809']We are, quite simply, way less aggressive and destructive than you were.[/quote] The fact that the two single largest tangible amounts of reparations to an alliance ever demanded, and the two most destructive wars in history have both been demanded/happened since NPO fell from the top spot. Not going to argue here, but I found that amusing. [quote name='Lord Brendan' date='03 May 2010 - 09:26 PM' timestamp='1272939958' post='2285809']So I'll again conclude by saying that the SuperGrievances "hegemony" is far, far more merciful and easier to live under than its Pacifican counterpart, but that is in no way a legitimate defence of any action we take, and we must continue to scrutinize our actions [b]despite the fact that we will always be better than you were.[/b][/quote]That last part of your statement is one of the stupidest things you could have said. Who are you to say what might happen in the future?

[quote name='Moridin' date='24 April 2010 - 11:37 PM' timestamp='1272170206' post='2273885'] My apologies then. I suppose I shouldn't have assumed the NPO would do any rudimentary research before rushing to the boards to publicize this. [/quote]Doesn't look like you did either, from your first post.

[quote name='Arcturus Jefferson' date='24 April 2010 - 11:17 PM' timestamp='1272169061' post='2273857'] You guys had a lot more practice with all the curbstomps you put on.[/quote]Which also means more chances to screw up. Nice little potshot though. [quote name='Arcturus Jefferson' date='24 April 2010 - 11:17 PM' timestamp='1272169061' post='2273857']Too bad you're wrong - isn't THAT ironic. [/quote]Which is your opinion. Before Londo posted, it certainly looked ironic that an alliance supposed to be protecting another raided it instead.

[quote name='Arcturus Jefferson' date='24 April 2010 - 11:13 PM' timestamp='1272168811' post='2273849'] Sniping is fine, especially when someone tries to imply Karma was as bad or worse as the Hegemony and then discovering that the original poster was [b]completely wrong[/b]. [/quote]As far as I know, the 'Hegemony' didn't have many problems with protecting people who surrendered to them, so this comparison doesn't seem to fit the topic. Personally, my first reaction was "heh, now isn't THAT ironic?"

[quote name='Ryuzaki' date='24 April 2010 - 11:10 PM' timestamp='1272168601' post='2273840'] You aren't doing much to change the image of the Order by making this thread. [/quote]I don't believe he was trying to. It would be rather pointless if that was his object, at any rate.

[quote name='Rush Sykes' date='24 April 2010 - 11:07 PM' timestamp='1272168415' post='2273832'] How dare you derail the peanut gallery's rush to judgement. [/quote]There are reasons why habits are formed. Good show by Londo, at any rate. edit - infinite citadel, see Londo's post above.