Sephiroth Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 (edited) Is this the biggest war ever or how big would a war need to become the biggest war these days? I'm not even sure if its possible to have bigger wars these days due to a shrinking total amount of players. I know there have been some big and destructive wars in the past, so I wouldn't be sure enough to say this is the biggest with any certainty. Although in terms of size and destructive potential, with both sides being large and able to fight for a while, this war does rank among the best. I think its a perfect way to start out the new year after so many years of nothing interesting happening. Does anyone have know the stats on how this war compares to previous wars in size and what some of the biggest past wars were? Edited February 14, 2013 by Methrage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saladjoe Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 Are you referring to number of nations or statistical damage outputs? Because it's the latter (if not already it will be) but certainly not the former. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted February 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 (edited) Are you referring to number of nations or statistical damage outputs? Because it's the latter (if not already it will be) but certainly not the former. I think both are valid ways to measure how big a war is, even they give different results. So any measurement it sets new records is interesting. Edited February 14, 2013 by Methrage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamuella Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 (edited) It's possible that this is the biggest war in terms of overall NS involved. In terms of number of nations involved, this isn't that big a war. Certainly if you compare it to GWIII or the Unjust War it's quite small. DOUBLE EDIT: last statement was wrong, retracted. Edited February 14, 2013 by Lamuella Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caliph Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 In terms of number of alliances involved, I don't think this is the biggest. In terms of nations involved it most certaintly isn't the biggest. In terms of damage done, this perhaps is the biggest. In terms of how quick it "escalated", it is the biggest. There are several ways of measuring how "big" a war is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yevgeni Luchenkov Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 Largest number of nations would go to UjP war or Karma. Largest number of alliances would go to GW III or Karma. Biggest damage done would go to BiPolar or this war. This war has a few very big hitters that BiPolar didn't have but BiPolar had more alliances going all out, whereas this war has more people in PM. Most costly war, however, would definitely be this war. High end infra and tech is costly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corin Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 I can't really say; the biggest war ever? Probably not. CN had much more nations in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helbrecht Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 If not the biggest in term of total NS involved, could it be biggest in terms of % involvement of total non-neutral NS available? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macondo Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 (edited) And what about time? Which had been the longest? I guess this one would top others. Most probably the whole global conflict will go on until summer or maybe a few months more. Edited February 15, 2013 by Macondo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hombre de Murcielago Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 And what about time? Which had been the longest? I guess this one would top others. Most probably the whole global conflict will go on until summer or maybe a few months more. FAN-1 Vision went from December 17, 2007 - May 14, 2009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamuella Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 (edited) FAN-1 Vision went from December 17, 2007 - May 14, 2009 to be fair a LOT of that was a cold war. (well, a room temperature war) As far as recent world wars on a multi-month scale, Karma lasted from April 20 to July 19 2009 (3 months), Bipolar lasted from January 20 to April 4 2010 (2.5 months), and DH-NPO lasted from January 17th - May 3 2011 (3.5 months). Edited February 15, 2013 by Lamuella Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevolutionaryRebel Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 How about the proportion of active nations involved? Going off that, the figures would surely be high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hakai Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 I'd say in terms of square footage this is by far the largest war, but external factors such as height, girth, and alternate dimensions should be considered as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigrun Vapneir Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 A very large percentage of active nations not on near-to-hyper-neutral AAs are involved, I dont have any numbers and would love to see them if someone does, but subjectively it doesnt seem all that different from GWIII for instance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do Not Fear Jazz Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 Currently there are 6583 nations involved in the war in some fashion. 12,351 Nations in game. Currently 53.2% of the nations in the game are involved in the war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 I dont like this "Math" you're using. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do Not Fear Jazz Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 I dont like this "Math" you're using. Why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shahenshah Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 Politically, I think its one of the more significant one in some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the rebel Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 (edited) 328,673,585 Total Nation Strength (in the game) 198,126,687 Nation strength (in AA's at war) Which means 60.3% of the games nation strength is in this conflict. Edited February 15, 2013 by the rebel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LexLuthor18 Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 Since I've been on here, this is certainly the biggest war I've ever seen in terms of how many nations and alliances are involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir Stukov II Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 This is a pretty destructive war but BiPolar was insane. TOP was a 220 nation Umbrella and CnG was at their peak. That front was absolutely brutal. I remember we had 100 members on IRC coordinating. I don't think we will ever match that again just due to the state of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macondo Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 FAN-1 Vision went from December 17, 2007 - May 14, 2009 Thanks. to be fair a LOT of that was a cold war. (well, a room temperature war) As far as recent world wars on a multi-month scale, Karma lasted from April 20 to July 19 2009 (3 months), Bipolar lasted from January 20 to April 4 2010 (2.5 months), and DH-NPO lasted from January 17th - May 3 2011 (3.5 months). This one would be longer. I'd say in terms of square footage this is by far the largest war, but external factors such as height, girth, and alternate dimensions should be considered as well. LOL :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hombre de Murcielago Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 This is a pretty destructive war but BiPolar was insane. TOP was a 220 nation Umbrella and CnG was at their peak. That front was absolutely brutal. I remember we had 100 members on IRC coordinating. I don't think we will ever match that again just due to the state of the game. Agreed. The TOP front of BiPolar and Karma were the two "best" and "biggest" wars imo. This one is the most enjoyable (and biggest) since then. Thanks. I really like your Username btw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enamel32 Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 This definitely isn't the biggest in terms of players. [ooc]come on, the servers hardly even lag anymore :awesome:[/ooc] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamuella Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 This definitely isn't the biggest in terms of players. [ooc]come on, the servers hardly even lag anymore :awesome:[/ooc] ah, well I remember both the times I completely destroyed someone before they logged on, and the times they did the same to me... I sometimes miss old CN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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