MisterShadow Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 [quote name='WorldConqueror' timestamp='1318057758' post='2820625'] Are you seriously comparing your damage to Tetris's to claim that you are winning? [/quote] Would you rather I compare the entirity... Okay... Tetris Side Original: 7142434 Tetris Side Current: 6425356 % of original: 90% Raw Lost: 717078 Oh and technically Tetris side has more in peacemode, legion nations capable of war 220, Tetris side 231 Have a nice day, you can pick up your prize on the way out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonator21 Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 [quote name='WorldConqueror' timestamp='1318058195' post='2820628'] When did I say they were cowards for not doing anything? [/quote] It's been the general opinion given off from people in both Tetris and NSO (and allies/others) since the posting of Legion's information began. I don't know what you said, and I don't care enough to go look it up. It was more of an "in general" comment I was making. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernesto Che Guevara Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 [quote name='Seerow' timestamp='1318050427' post='2820527'] Sounds good. Now convince Invicta to activate the treaty. (And before we go into the technical details of Legion needing to request help, $%&@ it. Either convince Legion to ask for help, or have Invicta go in without the help being requested. Either way). [/quote] I tried, dude. I really did. We almost did, too. We drew up target lists. I'd show you, but they're top secret and I can't show anybody outside of Europa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeonidasRexII Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 [quote name='WorldConqueror' timestamp='1318057758' post='2820625'] Are you seriously comparing your damage to Tetris's to claim that you are winning? [/quote] Yes [img]http://ecdn2.hark.com/images/000/204/422/204422/original.jpg[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldConqueror Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 [quote name='Gibsonator21' timestamp='1318058350' post='2820631'] It's been the general opinion given off from people in both Tetris and NSO (and allies/others) since the posting of Legion's information began. I don't know what you said, and I don't care enough to go look it up. It was more of an "in general" comment I was making. [/quote] If you're going to try and pick apart what I say, you should probably have some idea of what that was. Just sayin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeonidasRexII Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 [quote name='Rayvon' timestamp='1318058264' post='2820629'] Really? [/quote] Yes [quote name='Hereno' timestamp='1316918283' post='2807879'] [img]http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/4236/svoxw1.jpg[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvon Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 [quote name='LeonidasRexII' timestamp='1318061009' post='2820652'] Yes [/quote] How well do you remember July? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Stuart Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 [quote name='Gibsonator21' timestamp='1318057990' post='2820627'] Sooo, first they are cowards for not doing anything. Now they're just looking for "public support" when they go to fight a war where there is no guaranteed win. Incredible. Going off [url="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvhBDJVbPEMSdDJIY1E0U1lwZ2s5NVlXU1pjQ0JBc0E&hl=en_US&ndplr=1#gid=0"]this[/url], Legion is still winning. [/quote] That doc needs some serious updating. Today was not a good day for the legion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoppistan Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 [quote name='Rayvon' timestamp='1318061133' post='2820653'] How well do you remember July? [/quote] It's a little fuzzy. Were you my parole officer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeonidasRexII Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 [quote name='Rayvon' timestamp='1318061133' post='2820653'] How well do you remember July? [/quote] Pretty well why? [spoiler][u][img]http://easycaptures.com/fs/uploaded/581/0846863230.jpg[/img] Guerilla Camps[/u] 07/07/2011 - 5 07/08/2011 4AM - 89 07/08/2011 2PM - 143 07/09/2011 11PM - 167 07/11/2011 2PM - 63 07/12/2011 8PM - 48 07/12/2011 8PM - 39 [/spoiler] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvon Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 [quote name='LeonidasRexII' timestamp='1318061709' post='2820663'] Pretty well why? [/quote] Nice stat collection - July - Sith ~ http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=103229 Sith ~ http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=103248 Sith ~ http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=103282 Sith ~ http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=103283 Sith ~ http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=104036 - September - Tetris ~ http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=105532 Your gov let us walk all over you, and reacted to a much smaller alliance for less a couple months later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonator21 Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 [quote name='WorldConqueror' timestamp='1318060966' post='2820651'] If you're going to try and pick apart what I say, you should probably have some idea of what that was. Just sayin. [/quote] [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=104036&view=findpost&p=2767510"]This is close enough then.[/url] [quote]TBF we've given you guys plenty of ammo too. [b]Also do you really think it's possible for Legion to grow a pair? You must be a 'glass overflowing' kinda guy.[/b] [/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeonidasRexII Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 [quote name='Rayvon' timestamp='1318062003' post='2820666'] Nice stat collection - July - Sith ~ [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=103229"]http://forums.cybern...howtopic=103229[/url] Sith ~ [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=103248"]http://forums.cybern...howtopic=103248[/url] Sith ~ [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=103282"]http://forums.cybern...howtopic=103282[/url] Sith ~ [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=103283"]http://forums.cybern...howtopic=103283[/url] Sith ~ [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=104036"]http://forums.cybern...howtopic=104036[/url] - September - Tetris ~ [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=105532"]http://forums.cybern...howtopic=105532[/url] Your gov let us walk all over you, and reacted to a much smaller alliance for less a couple months later. [/quote] You walked all over us? Posting some screens of spy attacks on individual nations most of which had been posted in other areas before they made their way here hardly qualifies as walking over anyone. If anything you guys flinched and went into full war mode after we tweaked your feelings a bit in July. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldConqueror Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 [quote name='Gibsonator21' timestamp='1318062801' post='2820673'] [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=104036&view=findpost&p=2767510"]This is close enough then.[/url] [/quote] Well, I was using NoFish's terminology in response to him, and was referencing Legion's whole history, from ducking out of wars to preemptive disbandment to the GOONS fiasco and Legion having over 90% of their alliance in peace mode, but I guess you're right in a roundabout way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterShadow Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 [quote name='WorldConqueror' timestamp='1318063450' post='2820679'] Well, I was using NoFish's terminology in response to him, and was referencing Legion's whole history, from ducking out of wars to preemptive disbandment to the GOONS fiasco and Legion having over 90% of their alliance in peace mode, but I guess you're right in a roundabout way. [/quote] Yup because you were the same person you were 4 years ago. Oh wait that still doesnt work, you are the same as your sibling was 4 years ago. Thats better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldConqueror Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 [quote name='MisterShadow' timestamp='1318065760' post='2820692'] Yup because you were the same person you were 4 years ago. Oh wait that still doesnt work, you are the same as your sibling was 4 years ago. Thats better. [/quote] You are the same alliance, are you not? You followed a certain pattern of behaviour righht up until the start of this war, didn't you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvon Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 [quote name='LeonidasRexII' timestamp='1318063433' post='2820677'] You walked all over us? Posting some screens of spy attacks on individual nations most of which had been posted in other areas before they made their way here hardly qualifies as walking over anyone. If anything you guys flinched and went into full war mode after we tweaked your feelings a bit in July. [/quote] I gave those buildup orders, and flinching had nothing to do with it lol ... Supposedly Polar took your balls outta their purse and gave them back; so I ordered a half-buildup .. Then nothin ... Like the rest of your history .. And again, you gave us 5 hours to prepare for war and we still set out a better showing than you could muster after having a full week to start preparing nations to roll on Tetris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beau Vine Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 [quote name='WorldConqueror' timestamp='1318056923' post='2820619'] OK, so why did they declare the war in the first place if they can't win it? To garner some public support by making a break from their past in a fashion that implies it was NPO's fault that they were the doormat of CN for years? I'm not sure why you'd support that. [/quote] Seriously, how hard can this be to grasp? oO They [i]can[/i] win if it does not escalate. They [i]cannot[/i] win if it does. Do you think baiting them will actually work? "I bet you wont jump off that cliff. Wuss." Or do you hope they'll think that if their enemies encourage them to do it - it must be a good idea? Really, what's the idea behind all this baiting? PS.: also - Legion, you got props for starting the war, and even more props when NsO allies came in. Don't spend that capital on claiming thay [i]anyone[/i] is winning before 1st round expires. If signing peace before second week, and therefore before WC's run thin was your original plan... Well it's probably time for Plan B. Your claims of [b]winning[/b] are as convincing as NSO genuine advice to bring Polar/Invicta in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flonker Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 [quote name='WorldConqueror' timestamp='1318066044' post='2820693'] You are the same alliance, are you not? You followed a certain pattern of behaviour righht up until the start of this war, didn't you? [/quote] Well, among other things, we've figured out something that you obviously haven't - 'If ya always do what ya always done, ya always get what ya always got'. We changed the paradigm. Have some more Kook-Aide(tm), I hear it'll help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dilber Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 To be fair, you are doing what you've always done. [img]http://i.imgur.com/UvDPT.png[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 [quote name='Ernesto Che Guevara' timestamp='1318058777' post='2820635'] I tried, dude. I really did. We almost did, too. We drew up target lists. I'd show you, but they're top secret and I can't show anybody outside of Europa. [/quote] Its not to late, unless you're saying Invicta doesn't plan to enter later. It will probably take at least a week before Legion starts needing the help and there isn't a huge advantage to declaring immediately after the enemy. They can take some nuke damage first for a round of war, then you could come in to keep their war worn nations in war mode without allowing them to recover as you can send aid to nations who need some to recover from the first round of fighting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letum Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 [quote name='WorldConqueror' timestamp='1318056923' post='2820619'] OK, so why did they declare the war in the first place if they can't win it? [/quote] Perhaps they feel that they can win if neither side brings in more alliances, or perhaps that a light defeat is a better option than continued humiliation. Either way, I can't really see how activating their treaties could have any positive effect whatsoever. Feel free to correct me if you feel I'm wrong though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haflinger Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 [quote name='Methrage' timestamp='1318075990' post='2820743'] Its not to late, unless you're saying Invicta doesn't plan to enter later. It will probably take at least a week before Legion starts needing the help and there isn't a huge advantage to declaring immediately after the enemy. They can take some nuke damage first for a round of war, then you could come in to keep their war worn nations in war mode without allowing them to recover as you can send aid to nations who need some to recover from the first round of fighting. [/quote] Actually, this whole war is a smokescreen for our planned attack with TOP against Polar for revenge over events years in the past. Wait no, that's not it. But: you are not going to find out any useful information about our military strategy here in public. Our allies know what's going on, and nobody else gets to find out. That is how opsec is supposed to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 [quote name='Haflinger' timestamp='1318076485' post='2820748'] Actually, this whole war is a smokescreen for our planned attack with TOP against Polar for revenge over events years in the past. Wait no, that's not it. But: you are not going to find out any useful information about our military strategy here in public. Our allies know what's going on, and nobody else gets to find out. That is how opsec is supposed to work. [/quote] His comment made it sound like you guys had already made a decision not to get involved, I was pointing out that whether you guys enter is still up in the air and you guys haven't eliminated the option of assisting Legion later just because you haven't already done it. I don't expect you to give away military secrets, but nice to see you have a good grasp on what this whole war is about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IYIyTh Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 [quote name='Dilber' timestamp='1318075959' post='2820742'] To be fair, you are doing what you've always done. [img]http://i.imgur.com/UvDPT.png[/img] [/quote] This is pretty consistent with nuclear warfare and isn't really all that bad, ceteris paribus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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