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Word. So how's life? Pudge, Scutter or Priya still around? Y'all purging ghost nations?

[quote name='D34th' timestamp='1323741265' post='2875906'] Looks like that I need to update my signature, IRON lost more 14 nations since I was away. [/quote] And if you're doing intense 3D graphics and find yourself short on rendering time, I'll give you 2 hours of CPU time for rendering your stuff just for that It was actually giving us a fair headache, figuring out how to sieve out more of the recent surge of recruits. Nothing better than a war. I'm not going to engage in that argument because a)it'd be losing at propaganda understanding b) I really like your propaganda work BTW.: I'm actually not joking with the rendering thing - there's a BOINC subprogram for that, let me know if you're interested.

[quote name='New Frontier' timestamp='1320464255' post='2839315'] Those are blatantly incorrect. The idea that there are more Croats or Serbs than Brits or Canadians is patently absurd. [/quote] The consistency simply amazes me. [quote name='Manis B' timestamp='1320438502' post='2838703']Things and stuff.[/quote] This post on the other hand is quite spot on, to the point where I do not want to comment on the issue, as to not give away free tips. [quote name='Zoomzoomzoom' timestamp='1320444916' post='2838836']Who the hell is Pakistani or Indian in this game? [/quote] Muhammad Chang.

[quote name='Krunk the Great' timestamp='1320272469' post='2837218'] So legion is going to restore us only for us to destroy them later? Cool. [/quote] If you strike them down, they shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine. Don't let them mop you around, Smurf! They're New SITH order, not a jedi gathering or Republic fanboys. Arguably, Anakin has become a shell of his former self, entrapped in machinery and reliant on it to even stay alive. A mere tool in hands of Sith, who made only one correct decision in rest of his life, which was to [s]disband[/s] come back to light side. Oh man, how nerdy are we?

[quote name='Manis B' timestamp='1320166875' post='2836506'] alliances dont really recruit anymore either. [/quote] This made me chuckle :) It's like every time I look in here, someone takes a dump on fact-checking. Which feels oddly ironic and out of place in a thread devoted to statistics. The Legion, NPO, Terran Empire, MCXA, TLR, NpO, ODN, MHA, GPA, IRON, NSO*, VE, Pax Corvus, tLR, USN, CSN, Valhalla, Deinos, GOONS - they all actively recruit from DAN**. I'm also never the only person doing blitz recruitment at any given time. edit2: Now that I think of it, so does GATO nowadays -_- *I'm guessing they might've halted recruitment for the duration of war, but Legion at least I saw recruiting DAN folks during first week of the war. **Display All Nations page There might be more alliances recruiting, but these are the serious players, who don't leave the DAN unattended for 48+ hours. [quote name='flak attack' timestamp='1320183065' post='2836710'] It's OK. MHA and Legion are still around to attract all the garbage. [/quote] I just love how people can always find an avenue to diss MHA :) [size="1"]edit: term clarification.[/size]

[quote name='kriekfreak' timestamp='1319813116' post='2833594'] You are not really helping MHA here.[/quote] Thankfully I didn't intend to, per se. What I was doing there, was providing background before answering Ironfist question, in regard of ghosts (in a wider definition proposed by him) in a mass recruiting alliances, their possible numbers and problems with identifying them. Whether MHA had enough people fighting in that range during Bi-Polar, and if bankers were as/more/less important and/or was there a place for them in warfare planning and if their usage hindered or boosted MHA war contribution during that war? Oh man. That's a lot of questions I don't feel competent enough to answer, have no place in OOC area, and I would see no point in addressing in open if they were asked in IC either way. I have no problem with people underestimating MHA, it's served them well until now, no need to fix what ain't broken.

[quote name='Ironfist' timestamp='1319758862' post='2833252'] So for the record, what if ghosts also equates to members who do nothing for the alliance even during war? [/quote] For info like that we'd have to get a reply from every ministry within given alliance, which is impossible for me (not to mention checking numbers obtained in such a way), and quite hard for actual members. I recall some hitch hiker calling out another as being useless during Bi-Polar based on his casualties, only to learn that the guy was a banker and invaluable member of MoT* Not to mention that even if I got all the info on this that I wanted... It'd still be pretty useless as I couldn't compare it with data from other mass-recruiting alliance. edit: I so focused on excuses as to why it's improbable to use such data, I forgot to actually answer your what if In such scenario, MHA would always have high % of "ghosts", solely because there's a limited number of gov/administration jobs to be done, and a lot of them are either fixed costs, or ones raising disproportionally slower to member count. But MoH could help here - with number of available job openings vs job filled and number of people actually holding them (people wanting to, but not being able to help out ought to be a concern, and it was when I was in MHA). (hah! figure their abbreviations out yourselves )

[quote name='Marneus Calgar' timestamp='1319679569' post='2832767'] IRON has around 20 Ghosts on our AA. MHA doesn't Ghost Bust, so they have around 200. [/quote] Le sigh. [quote name='Commander shepard' timestamp='1319711291' post='2832946'] That is correct, I done research into MHA and I found that, that 200 ghosts figure is made up. It is closer to 300. [/quote] Post provided for people who understood Davian overstatement as a good natured poke-joke and didn't feel ill-willed towards our members, I presume? Seriously guys, math for this is on our very board. Look up my posts in embassies, it's one of more recent. Not to mention that some basic fact checking (it took me under 5 min to gather figures for aforementioned summary and comparison of MHA and our ghost-related data) contradicts this decisively. I'm not going to paste it here, because MHA seemed focused on prolonging the life of this urban legend (and Halloween is coming, so it's all the more fitting misconception), but for all those who dare not check simple facts: that ghost-mha bit is simply not true.

[quote name='Lizardo' timestamp='1319624640' post='2832471'] 03/31/2011 - 19,937 Nations 05/31/2011 - 18,966 Nations 07/04/2011 - 17,999 Nations 09/02/2011 - 16,994 Nations 10/26/2011 - 15,994 Nations [url="http://gatoforums.net/index.php?showtopic=18654&view=findpost&p=318814"]The progression of doom.[/url] [/quote] Meanwhile... [quote name='Gopherbashi' timestamp='1319163242' post='2829602'] [center][b]---------- ALL ALLIANCE STATISTICS ----------[/b] Cumulative from October 13, 2011[/center] [img]http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/6710/sanctioniron.png[/img] 2 [490] [color=green][b](+14)[/b][/color] [b][color=orange]Independent Republic Of Orange Nations[/color][/b] : 52.69 --> 53.37 [color=green](+0.68)[/color][/quote] [img]http://www.iron-command.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/awesomeiron2a.gif[/img]

[quote name='THUNDER-X' timestamp='1319308132' post='2830554'] BUMP from TOP! [/quote] Yay, you've bumped us to the TOP!

[quote name='docjay' timestamp='1258459581' post='1975559'] House Season 6 Episode 1 first five minutes... House Season 6 Episode 6 triangle... PAIN ........................ [/quote] Oh my, a season behind on bumping the thread

[quote name='President S O' timestamp='1301727228' post='2682771'] [size="6"][b][center]Valhalla[/center][/b][/size] Is cool. [/quote] It really is.

DR bump!

And they have great allies!

[quote name='greco' timestamp='1319386655' post='2830927'] You really seem to be confused myself and my Polar brethren don't ever look over our shoulder we look straight ahead at all times and paranoid about what you hahaha that's funny If you or anyone else wants us you know were we are we don't hide we don't run to the strongest block for help were right here... [/quote] Complete lack of commas in your post somewhat undermines the point you were trying to make (unless it was sarcastic self depreciative comment, in which case my hat goes off to you). When I read it, it sounds as a quick paced taunt made on one breath What I was referencing there, was constant stream of "admit it, it's a ploy to roll us!" comments from Polar members every thread that involves your allies. [quote='berbers']That statement creeps me out....but not in a good way like the human centipede [/quote] Well it's not a preconceived plan*, just an added benefit of recent popcorn-wars. I hope this makes it less creepy. [size="1"]*if it was, I daresay an IA staff member, too lowly to be even listed on wikia page, would not be privy to knowing about it.[/size]

[quote name='AlmightyGrub' timestamp='1319367151' post='2830855']If you really wanted a piece you would have done so, you outnumber us 10 to 1 easily.[/quote] What's the fun in a curbstomp like that? Having you guys looking over your shoulder, constantly paranoid about people out to get you whenever there's a conflict in your vicinity, your allies having to realize you're nothing more than a liability kept for sake of all but forgotten "good ol' times" - now that's entertainment!

November 13th please

[quote name='Jgoods45' timestamp='1319174803' post='2829775'] I was being sarcastic [/quote] I see this sentence being used on OWF quite often lately. Most of the time following a clearly non-sarcastic BS someone was called out on. But yeah, this particular post seem kinda sarcastic, so lets bring peace to the Bob, Crymson says it's our last day alive.

[quote name='DanDesade' timestamp='1319143211' post='2829425'] ghosts. what can you do?[/quote] Good. Now that both sides complain about this matter, we've achieved a sort of an equilibrium, and can proceed with simply ignoring this issue altogether.

Oh look what I bumped into.

[quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1319087892' post='2829092'] I love watching from the sideline as people sign treaties because of friendships despite political realities while claiming friendship supersedes politics, and then cancel treaties with friends because of political realities while claiming that friendship doesn't need formalities. Let's call a horse a horse. [/quote] I'm so pleased you picked this metaphor to visualise situation at hand I call equines depending on what they really are, stallions, colts, mares, fillies, yearlings, even geldings have ways in which they're superior to other horses The treaty was for a long time impractical, a symbolic paper trail of special relation between RnR and IRON. I think by now, as evidenced by posts so far (yours included), this relationship is apparent and obvious to most. Both sides agree that it served no significant purpose in it's shape. Personally, I'd prefer it to still exist in a downgraded shape, but RnR decision is more than reasonable, and will not deteriorate the link between us. Cheers, RnR!

It's only a model. It's sad that a treaty between two great alliances is written so ambiguously. Nowhere is it specified if it's an European or an African swallow, clearly a ploy to further blur the lines surrounding espionage.

[quote name='Haflinger' timestamp='1318969599' post='2828106'] Arexes is always in government; I remember when this claim was made by iFOK. It must have been two months later at most that he was a triumvir. [/quote] Heh, too bad Polanski* didn't think of this line of thought. "How can you say she was too young? She's had 21 years not 6 years after the incident!" [size="1"]disclaimer *The infamous screenwriter** from nation of Amfora Kulista. ** Yup. Ours is a screenwriter. Couldn't even afford a multimillion villa to be housejailed in.[/size]

[quote name='kriekfreak' timestamp='1318960889' post='2828003'] I think less people hate my alliance cause of me than they hate your alliance cause of you. [/quote] For the record, Kriekfreak is one of the people because of which I warmed towards NG, whereas the only reason I don't put Haflinger on ignorelist is because he's one of 2, maybe 3, active Invicta posters. Not that my opinion matters much, just putting it out there, to maybe incite some introspection.

On 11:11 on 11.11.11 I'll be sleeping, thus not giving a damn that it is actually 11:11 on 11.11.2011. But on 20:11 on 20.11.2011 I'll be all like "Huh. That's one good looking minute. Too bad I have seconds displayed on my clock.