CptGodzilla Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 I'm willing to bet that the respective alliance of every single person saying poaching isn't that bad, would indeed roll an alliance for poaching (or, in the case that rolling is not an option due to treaties or your alliance is tiny compared to the other, get reps) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta1212 Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 [quote name='shaneprice' timestamp='1308631131' post='2736741'] My opinion only - NOT that of Exodus The New Sakura Order has committed an act of war against the SOS brigade. The SOS Brigade has responded to that attack, any attempt on the part of RIA to regulate the conduct of war against their brazen and ill mannered protectorate would most likely be inadvisable in the current political environment. [/quote] What? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Zeke+ Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 [quote name='Locke' timestamp='1308631189' post='2736745'] No, that's not why. The reason was to prevent a leak in the manner of which happened the last time I spoke to IAA.[/quote] Leak? As in contacting the protectorate to get their side of the story? Simply outrageous! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mythicknight Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 [quote name='William Bonney' timestamp='1308631179' post='2736744'] I predict a DoW on TORN coming in 5,4,3....oh snap! Now look what I did. [/quote] SOS members who wish to be free of their paranoid and warmongering regime are free to apply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 [quote name='Delta1212' timestamp='1308631414' post='2736757'] What? [/quote] Completely agreeing with Delta here. I have no idea what that meant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Virginia Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Locke' timestamp='1308631189' post='2736745'] It has nothing to do with the size of the alliance, but you're hardly in a position to have any knowledge of the politics in that incident or this one. [/quote] [color="#0000FF"]I really don't have to be an "insider" to understand what is going on. SOS and NsO had a nasty split. It was out in the public for all of us to see. For the last several months you've been having your little catfights and nobody has really cared. Though we have laughed, great entertainment all around. And yes, the size has everything to do with it. SOS isn't known for being courageous. Most of us would say you're quite the opposite, no small thanks to Arrnea. You knew if you stood up for yourself against SLCB you'd get rolled. But where they wouldn't stop most alliances (we have a thing called pride), you just took it. Well, NsO is an easy target and you don't like them. More importantly you've got Invicta and RIA backing you. If you they weren't I doubt you'd be so bold. So please, do not tell me that size has nothing to do with it.[/color] [quote name='CptGodzilla' timestamp='1308631391' post='2736756'] I'm willing to bet that the respective alliance of every single person saying poaching isn't that bad, would indeed roll an alliance for poaching (or, in the case that rolling is not an option due to treaties or your alliance is tiny compared to the other, get reps) [/quote] [color="#0000FF"]You lose.[/color] Edited June 21, 2011 by Rebel Virginia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janax Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 [quote name='Rebel Virginia' timestamp='1308631522' post='2736762'] And yes, the size has everything to do with it. SOS isn't known for being courageous. Most of us would say you're quite the opposite, no small thanks to Arrnea. You knew if you stood up for yourself against SLCB you'd get rolled. But where they wouldn't stop most alliances (we have a thing called pride), you just took it. Well, NsO is an easy target and you don't like them. More importantly you've got Invicta and RIA backing you. If you they weren't I doubt you'd be so bold. So please, do not tell me that size has nothing to do with it. [/quote] Not sure having Invicta back you is a plus... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorConcept Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 [quote name='+Zeke+' timestamp='1308631488' post='2736758'] Leak? As in contacting the protectorate to get their side of the story? Simply outrageous! [/quote] If you truly believe in your CB, why waste your time contacting the alliance whom you're about to roll and let them get into peace mode? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarmatian Empire Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 [quote name='Rebel Virginia' timestamp='1308631522' post='2736762'] [color="#0000FF"]I really don't have to be an "insider" to understand what is going on. SOS and NsO had a nasty split. It was out in the public for all of us to see. For the last several months you've been having your little catfights and nobody has really cared. Though we have laughed, great entertainment all around. And yes, the size has everything to do with it. SOS isn't known for being courageous. Most of us would say you're quite the opposite, no small thanks to Arrnea. You knew if you stood up for yourself against SLCB you'd get rolled. But where they wouldn't stop most alliances (we have a thing called pride), you just took it. Well, NsO is an easy target and you don't like them. More importantly you've got Invicta and RIA backing you. If you they weren't I doubt you'd be so bold. So please, do not tell me that size has nothing to do with it.[/color] [color="#0000FF"]You lose.[/color] [/quote] Size doesnt matter! It's the motion in the ocean... doesnt matter...doesnt matter...doesnt matter.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Virginia Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 [quote name='janax' timestamp='1308631651' post='2736764'] Not sure having Invicta back you is a plus... [/quote] [color="#0000FF"]This is SOS we're talking about. I am sure that they see it as a good thing. Then again, there is a reason we all believe SOS to be objectively terrible.[/color] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PX6DEVASTATER Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Its amusing that two people voluntarily leaving an alliance due to disagreements with the leader of the alliance is considered poaching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeros Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 [quote name='General Anderan' timestamp='1308631882' post='2736768'] Its amusing that two people voluntarily leaving an alliance due to disagreements with the leader of the alliance is considered poaching. [/quote] My grandfather always told me to never let the truth get in the way of a good story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Black Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 [quote name='+Zeke+' timestamp='1308631488' post='2736758'] Leak? As in contacting the protectorate to get their side of the story? Simply outrageous! [/quote] With all due respect on this matter, should IAA have rolled in to defend their protectorate already? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Zeke+ Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 [quote name='WarriorConcept' timestamp='1308631707' post='2736765'] If you truly believe in your CB, why waste your time contacting the alliance whom you're about to roll and let them get into peace mode? [/quote] I was talking about earlier when the issue happened. Usually what most alliances do when they think something fishy is going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldie Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 [quote name='Delta1212' timestamp='1308631414' post='2736757'] What? [/quote] But... I thought... that we all know what that means? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omniscient1 Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 [quote name='Muddog' timestamp='1308632054' post='2736771'] With all due respect on this matter, should IAA have rolled in to defend their protectorate already? [/quote] It usually takes a full day to organize attacks. If they haven't come in by tomorrow then yea I'd say they should have already came. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaGneT Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 [quote name='Locke' timestamp='1308628996' post='2736649'] You snakes were slithering off to peace mode. Does a few minutes late DoW bother you that much. Only if you're in the business of splitting hairs. And you have no bias whatsoever. You're a bad liar. That's low and slimy, even for you. Why should we give you more warning than your spies did? More to it than that. There are good reasons why we could not. Last time I did one of you decided to lie behind my back and compromised my work.[/QUOTE] So you insult everyone who contradicts you... and offer no actual proof. The burden of proof lies on you, not those who you attacked. [QUOTE]You know very !@#$@#$ well I'm busy.[/QUOTE] Then you tell us that you're far too important to be bothered with offering the reasoning behind a war that has the potential to affect us all through treaty-web dominoes and global radiation, despite the fact that it is flimsy at best. You'd think that a leader of an alliance that is widely regarded as little more than a joke to the rest of us would have an inkling that actually fleshing out and explaining your "casus belli" may help improve your standing. Was your alliance mass-messaged, telling them all to leave and join NsO? If so, that's a case of poaching that many people would accept as a good CB. Did a few members decide to join another alliance? If so, you should probably offer NsO some reparations and hope that everyone forgets this little incident. [QUOTE]There are reasons why the evidence can't be shared [i]here[/i]. [/quote] And what might those be, oh wise one? Or are there reasons that those reasons can't be shared here either? [quote name='Sarmatian Empire' timestamp='1308630983' post='2736734'] I'm going to take a little bit of a different tone and say, have fun guys, your having more fun then most of us are. [/quote] Taking a stance as always, I see. Well, at least you're friendly. I'm curious if RIA actually looked into this. Despite their affiliations, they've never been a stupid bunch and I'm surprised they'd throw their weight (and, transitively, their allies' weight) behind such a ridiculous war, especially considering that NsO's allies probably will (and should) defend them. Either they're looking to escalate this war, or this is a gross miscalculation on their part that they really ought to reconsider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrnea Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 [quote name='General Anderan' timestamp='1308631882' post='2736768'] Its amusing that two people voluntarily leaving an alliance due to disagreements with the leader of the alliance is considered poaching. [/quote] Actually it was one person, and when the "disagreement" in question was "I don't want to buy nukes", only to have said nation buy nukes shortly after joining their new alliance (which a gov member of specifically indicated he intended to poach) yes, it is poaching. But I wouldn't expect any less than blatant fallacy and spin from a member of the attacked alliance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldie Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 [quote name='Arrnea' timestamp='1308632233' post='2736777'] Actually it was one person, and when the "disagreement" in question was "I don't want to buy nukes", only to have said nation buy nukes shortly after joining their new alliance (which a gov member of specifically indicated he intended to poach) yes, it is poaching. But I wouldn't expect any less than blatant fallacy and spin from a member of the attacked alliance. [/quote] That you would fight a war over a nation you clearly don't want in your alliance going to another alliance just makes this so much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacapo Saladin Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 I remember Arrnea's attempt at diplomacy back during the SLCB incident, maybe the nso leadership spurned his advances. Here is a refresher: [img]http://i.imgur.com/sK25h.png[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Virginia Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 [quote name='MaGneT' timestamp='1308632205' post='2736776'] hope that everyone forgets this little incident. [/quote] [color="#0000FF"]I know this is standard for me to say, but it appears I have forgotten to mention it here: I, the glorious and handsome devil known to the world as Rebel Virginia, will not be forgetting this little incident. It may not involve me, but that hardly matters. I will remember it anyway, and I will bring it up often and frequently and seemingly when it is irrelevant to other issues being discussed. May we never forget how utterly laughable SOS Brigade, and why they must rolled.[/color] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Impero Romano Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Arrnea' timestamp='1308632233' post='2736777'] Actually it was one person, and when the "disagreement" in question was "I don't want to buy nukes", only to have said nation buy nukes shortly after joining their new alliance (which a gov member of specifically indicated he intended to poach) yes, it is poaching. But I wouldn't expect any less than blatant fallacy and spin from a member of the attacked alliance. [/quote] Honestly it's almost like you're trying as hard as possible to get mud on the face of all your allies who are supporting you in this. Really, think before you post. Edited June 21, 2011 by Il Impero Romano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarLaw Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 [quote name='Aeros' timestamp='1308626249' post='2736479'] I recommend we all take this minor incident between two micro-alliances and blow it WAY out of proportion! [/quote] can't say it any better than this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShouAS Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 errr have people checked the wiki he linked to for the war which he said linked to part of the CB reason because errrr what? OOC: The link in question is a multination report, so it looks like this war is about TOS stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crymson Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 [quote name='CptGodzilla' timestamp='1308631391' post='2736756'] I'm willing to bet that the respective alliance of every single person saying poaching isn't that bad, would indeed roll an alliance for poaching (or, in the case that rolling is not an option due to treaties or your alliance is tiny compared to the other, get reps) [/quote] You're wrong. I said that I felt it was a poor CB; and if people succeeded in "poaching" members from TOP, I'd say that those members were terrible anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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