Duncan King Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 (edited) The reps are worse than I had hoped but better than I had expected. The 1000 tech term and the bar on sending tech and money at the same time are kind of stupid, it makes it fairly obvious that Karma wants to twist the fork a little bit. Congratulations to MHA on getting out of their treaty with the NPO. And lol at how the terms require the NPO to send all of its tech and more. Edited July 20, 2009 by Duncan King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jphillips412 Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 Best of luck, Pacific. Job well done, Karma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 Onwards on rebuilding old comrades. o/ NPO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyle Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 Well I'll be damned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogaden Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 (edited) They are hardly "Draconian". Draconian would be secret terms, banning leadership, viceroys, indefinite loss of nukes, etc. All things the NPO has no problem with. This isn't even close to harsh. These terms are draconian terms, RI. They're the bed we have to sleep in, simple as that. Edited July 20, 2009 by James Dahl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dev0win Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 there has been enough bloodshed! let there be peace and may the GRL go down further! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TehChron Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 Congratulations to Pacifica for Peace. Now it's TPF's turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr hairy Ballz Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 Sethb is still the sexiest emperor anyone could ask for! o/OV and KARMA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtDiver Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 o/ NPO u guys fought a great fight. look how many alliances it took to take you down XD o/ karma it was a pleasure fighting NPO with you guys! and yes this picture has been posted already but it does fit this thread very well \/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred von Tirpitz Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 Congratulations and hearty thanks to everyone that has been on this front of the war. It has been an experience. Thanks to Pacifica for the good fight. You guys were awesome on the front and always respectable in your communications on the battlefield. Thanks Admin that The Phoenix Federation can now surrender and get this over with. They have been in it far too long. Thanks to all those that put their time and energy in this war, All the Karma Officials, Liquid, Archon. Thankyou Londo, for putting up with us all and with Pacifica to bring this to a conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonic Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 /sparta /karma /re building /npo for being a fun enemy. (but hoping for friendship in the future) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laserwolf Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 Wow at one point 400+ people were reading this topic. So comes the end to an epic war. To the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamthey Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 (edited) Good to see, and I am glad that the PM clause was removed. I have a few issues with it; but this is better than I had hoped, and I don't feel like arguing. Edited July 20, 2009 by iamthey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 IMO these terms are nowhere near harsh enough for what Pacifia has done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horatio Longworth Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 None. Pun intended. Now that was funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomInterrupt Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 These terms are draconian terms, RI. Pretty sure I just explained why they weren't. Not that I expect anyone under the NPO banner to be able to understand anything counter to what they are told is the truth by their leaders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velka Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 I hope Karma can actually keep it together now and be responsible world leaders. The NPO may not have been perfect, I'm not a fan of them, but the world was stable in at least one sense of the word. Many are now fearing exactly how the next few months will pan out. I wish Karma the best of luck in forming a responsible multipolar world. You also need a new name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TehChron Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 They are hardly "Draconian". Draconian would be secret terms, banning leadership, viceroys, indefinite loss of nukes, etc. All things the NPO has no problem with. This isn't even close to harsh. This, a thousand times this. They arent !@#$%^&* terms. They are equivalent to the crime. Chron is satisfied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Paul Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 ^ My proof So um yeah. I thought one of the big things of this war was that NPO charged some alliances over 80% of the tech they had at surrendering time. Thats pretty sad. Oh well good luck rebuilding to all of Bob If we normalize 10 billion into tech that works out to about to 166,667 tech, adding in the 350,000 tech required, makes 516,667 tech, or 148% of the NPO's techworth. Thus, the New Pacific Order is paying the largest reperation bill in the history of Planet Bob, both proportionally and in absolute terms. Clearly, all previous reperations in the game were not draconian, since Karma fought with honor and does not issue draconian terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael von Prussia Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 (Some OOC content follows, but I don't think it's enough to worry about) Congratulations to all parties, particularly Karma alliances. Nearer the beginning of the war, I openly advocated that the disbandment of the New Pacific Order should be the primary objective of Karma. Ahile I do not regret advocating this, I now see that it is, in all respects, unnecessary now. The New Pacific Order fought an honorable war - perhaps the first in their history - and for that, I hail them. Furthermore, these terms act in a manner which is neither too lenient - as I feared they might be - or in a manner which is too harsh. I particularly like the clauses which would seem to indicate peace for the Federation of Armed Nations, as well as the reparations amounts - so long as they are distributed appropriately by the victorious coalition to the alliances that need it the most (specifically Ordoe Verde). Alas, the attack on Ordoe Verde was, in this war, compared to the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand in 1914. And now, I am more than certain these terms will be compared to the Treaty of Versailles, with what many will undoubtedly perceive as harsh reparation demands, as well as admittance of guilt regarding the cause of the war, and, of course, the loss of Pacifican 'colonies', as it were. But we must not loose sight of the truth: unlike the Treaty of Versailles, which unfairly persecuted Germany for a war caused by Serbia or Austria-Hungary, depending on one's outlook, these terms of surrender fairly punish an alliance which cause the war, and which, in its past, has caused worse harm to better alliances. Congratulations again to all parties. Peace be upon you, and God's mercy and blessings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archmage Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 I'm glad I could see this day, now maybe I can move on. We'll see in time how many more can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MercyFallout Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 o/ Glorious Victory! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detlev Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 Well done on the terms. They are brutal and absolutely deserved. Sucks to be NPO right now. The bigger they are, the harder they fall. It is a new day for Cybernations. No longer does CN = NPO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnCapistan Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 IMO these terms are nowhere near harsh enough for what Pacifia has done. So what do they need to be 20x as much as NPO has charged every alliance one bob? I beleive last time I checked it was 10x but I wouldn't be surprised if my math was wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
890765 Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 I will hold the world ransom for... 10 BILLION DOLLARS! So much for never surrender. Should've asked for more reps imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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