NATO hereby declares war on...

[dev0win]

3 minutes ago, kerschbs said:

Meanwhile Non Grata is moving more tech/using more aid slots than any alliance on Bob. Ceiling indeed.

It's a hard ceiling that kept us from fighting at all levels last war. Folks hid in PM the entire war out of deep and uncontrollable fear. My knees still quake.

[Johnny Apocalypse]

3 minutes ago, dev0win said:

It's a hard ceiling that kept us from fighting at all levels last war. Folks hid in PM the entire war out of deep and uncontrollable fear. My knees still quake.

 

Yeah it was pretty terrifying for me too. Trying to find a target in both Non Grata and CLAWS which wasn't hiding in PM? The horrors of that target-scarce environment haunt me to this day.

 

Here's hoping for the next global to be less stale, I think we can all agree to that.

[dev0win]

33 minutes ago, Johnny Apocalypse said:

 

Yeah it was pretty terrifying for me too. Trying to find a target in both Non Grata and CLAWS which wasn't hiding in PM? The horrors of that target-scarce environment haunt me to this day.

 

Here's hoping for the next global to be less stale, I think we can all agree to that.

I forgot what a swinger you were

[Johnny Apocalypse]

4 minutes ago, dev0win said:

I forgot what a swinger you were

 

Being untethered by the web granted a very liberating capacity to act with an almost hedonistic level of independence. Everyone should try it at least once imo.

[Sarkin]

It's kind of fun to sort alliances by the various metrics. Tech, for instance, which is DT's god:

 

 

Total members is fun too. Shout-out to The Legion for keeping their member count nearly stable from June 2022 (102 to 96), while FTW dropped 53 and CLAWS dropped 19. 

 

 

This just makes me wish that there was a column for casualties. How cool would that be? Especially if there were an avg casualties per member column too. 

[Lyanna Mormont]

3 hours ago, Sarkin said:

It's kind of fun to sort alliances by the various metrics. Tech, for instance, which is DT's god:

 

 

 

60%

 

Not bad, DT

[CrinkledStraw]

10% 😂

 

Literally nothing you can say as the “leader” of an alliance in such a state.

 

60% is honestly solid. Most are around 40. 60 gets props. 

Edited December 13, 2023 by CrinkledStraw

[Jason8]

16 hours ago, Sarkin said:

This just makes me wish that there was a column for casualties. How cool would that be? Especially if there were an avg casualties per member column too. 

I got you.  I did remove any alliances with less than 5 members just because a few rogues made the numbers funny.

 

Top 20 in total casualties:

			Total Casualties		Attacking		Defending
Rank	Alliance Name	Members	Count	Average	Count	Average	Count	Average
1	NEW PACIFIC ORDER	262	911,284,873	3,478,187	317,883,857	1,213,297	592,187,719	2,260,258
2	NON GRATA	89	741,921,783	8,336,200	264,836,285	2,975,689	474,109,809	5,327,077
3	NEW POLAR ORDER	82	495,931,140	6,047,941	173,796,851	2,119,474	320,014,815	3,902,620
4	FREEHOLD OF THE WOLVES	99	434,928,789	4,393,220	132,320,427	1,336,570	301,271,792	3,043,149
5	CLAWS	94	410,384,374	4,365,791	132,286,753	1,407,306	276,690,315	2,943,514
6	INDEPENDENT REPUBLIC OF ORANGE NATIONS	130	397,712,379	3,059,326	140,243,459	1,078,796	256,390,124	1,972,232
7	THE LEGION	103	377,071,563	3,660,889	132,518,305	1,286,585	243,266,673	2,361,812
8	FARK	36	267,245,354	7,423,482	95,700,317	2,658,342	168,886,695	4,691,297
9	SPARTA	35	259,695,834	7,419,881	75,875,018	2,167,858	181,652,958	5,190,085
10	NATO	65	259,038,659	3,985,210	88,889,682	1,367,534	168,781,443	2,596,638
11	DOOMBIRD DOOMCAVE	12	232,585,487	19,382,124	80,500,195	6,708,350	145,376,942	12,114,745
12	VIRIDIAN ENTENTE	40	224,552,958	5,613,824	75,705,376	1,892,634	146,954,948	3,673,874
13	THE DARK TEMPLAR	49	219,748,539	4,484,664	78,947,811	1,611,180	139,189,548	2,840,603
14	ARGENT	38	183,396,153	4,826,215	68,262,905	1,796,392	113,336,856	2,982,549
15	CHRISTIAN COALITION OF COUNTRIES	38	169,079,200	4,449,453	51,652,497	1,359,276	116,067,427	3,054,406
16	DOOM SQUAD	31	161,089,645	5,196,440	51,723,836	1,668,511	107,697,298	3,474,106
17	POST GRUNGE SUPERGROUP	68	152,795,431	2,246,992	52,724,432	775,359	99,295,640	1,460,230
18	GLOBAL ALLIANCE AND TREATY ORGANIZATION	47	147,379,102	3,135,726	51,522,064	1,096,214	94,760,824	2,016,188
19	KNIGHTS OF THE ROUND TABLE	79	141,361,386	1,789,385	44,638,617	565,046	96,157,723	1,217,186
20	THE WOLVES	14	138,863,879	9,918,849	56,289,160	4,020,654	78,554,065	5,611,005

 

Top 20 in average casualties:

			Total Casualties		Attacking		Defending
Rank	Alliance Name	Members	Count	Average	Count	Average	Count	Average
1	DOOMBIRD DOOMCAVE	12	232,585,487	19,382,124	80,500,195	6,708,350	145,376,942	12,114,745
2	THE WOLVES	14	138,863,879	9,918,849	56,289,160	4,020,654	78,554,065	5,611,005
3	NON GRATA	89	741,921,783	8,336,200	264,836,285	2,975,689	474,109,809	5,327,077
4	THE GRAND LODGE OF FREEMASONS	16	126,923,055	7,932,691	40,586,498	2,536,656	83,799,901	5,237,494
5	FARK	36	267,245,354	7,423,482	95,700,317	2,658,342	168,886,695	4,691,297
6	SPARTA	35	259,695,834	7,419,881	75,875,018	2,167,858	181,652,958	5,190,085
7	NORDREICH	18	126,648,311	7,036,017	46,043,515	2,557,973	78,046,823	4,335,935
8	THE TEMPLAR KNIGHTS	20	138,458,630	6,922,931	45,818,599	2,290,930	90,349,101	4,517,455
9	PIRATES OF THE PARROT ORDER	9	59,995,443	6,666,160	19,625,186	2,180,576	38,189,681	4,243,298
10	NEW POLAR ORDER	82	495,931,140	6,047,941	173,796,851	2,119,474	320,014,815	3,902,620
11	RANDOM INSANITY ALLIANCE	17	101,987,672	5,999,275	34,813,691	2,047,864	65,126,117	3,830,948
12	VIRIDIAN ENTENTE	40	224,552,958	5,613,824	75,705,376	1,892,634	146,954,948	3,673,874
13	NORTH ATLANTIC DEFENSE COALITION	5	26,274,546	5,254,909	7,786,819	1,557,364	16,930,363	3,386,073
14	DOOM SQUAD	31	161,089,645	5,196,440	51,723,836	1,668,511	107,697,298	3,474,106
15	WE ARE PERTH ARMY	9	45,348,209	5,038,690	17,022,366	1,891,374	26,434,469	2,937,163
16	ARGENT	38	183,396,153	4,826,215	68,262,905	1,796,392	113,336,856	2,982,549
17	INVICTA	9	42,312,880	4,701,431	13,375,768	1,486,196	27,450,916	3,050,102
18	MOSTLY HARMLESS ALLIANCE	27	125,500,382	4,648,162	43,483,991	1,610,518	80,405,873	2,977,995
19	THE DARK TEMPLAR	49	219,748,539	4,484,664	78,947,811	1,611,180	139,189,548	2,840,603
20	CHRISTIAN COALITION OF COUNTRIES	38	169,079,200	4,449,453	51,652,497	1,359,276	116,067,427	3,054,406

[Bionic redhead]

On 12/12/2023 at 12:00 PM, Johnny Apocalypse said:

You could always try actually declaring war on us but we all know you won't do that,

 

 

Get thee behind me me Satan.

[Sarkin]

9 hours ago, Jason8 said:

I got you.  

 

Hell yeah to GLoF in the top five for average casualties per member; those freemasons are metal as hell.

[Rebel Virginia]

21 hours ago, Jason8 said:

I got you.  I did remove any alliances with less than 5 members just because a few rogues made the numbers funny.

 

Top 20 in total casualties:

 

			Total Casualties		Attacking		Defending
Rank	Alliance Name	Members	Count	Average	Count	Average	Count	Average
1	NEW PACIFIC ORDER	262	911,284,873	3,478,187	317,883,857	1,213,297	592,187,719	2,260,258
2	NON GRATA	89	741,921,783	8,336,200	264,836,285	2,975,689	474,109,809	5,327,077
3	NEW POLAR ORDER	82	495,931,140	6,047,941	173,796,851	2,119,474	320,014,815	3,902,620
4	FREEHOLD OF THE WOLVES	99	434,928,789	4,393,220	132,320,427	1,336,570	301,271,792	3,043,149
5	CLAWS	94	410,384,374	4,365,791	132,286,753	1,407,306	276,690,315	2,943,514
6	INDEPENDENT REPUBLIC OF ORANGE NATIONS	130	397,712,379	3,059,326	140,243,459	1,078,796	256,390,124	1,972,232
7	THE LEGION	103	377,071,563	3,660,889	132,518,305	1,286,585	243,266,673	2,361,812
8	FARK	36	267,245,354	7,423,482	95,700,317	2,658,342	168,886,695	4,691,297
9	SPARTA	35	259,695,834	7,419,881	75,875,018	2,167,858	181,652,958	5,190,085
10	NATO	65	259,038,659	3,985,210	88,889,682	1,367,534	168,781,443	2,596,638
11	DOOMBIRD DOOMCAVE	12	232,585,487	19,382,124	80,500,195	6,708,350	145,376,942	12,114,745
12	VIRIDIAN ENTENTE	40	224,552,958	5,613,824	75,705,376	1,892,634	146,954,948	3,673,874
13	THE DARK TEMPLAR	49	219,748,539	4,484,664	78,947,811	1,611,180	139,189,548	2,840,603
14	ARGENT	38	183,396,153	4,826,215	68,262,905	1,796,392	113,336,856	2,982,549
15	CHRISTIAN COALITION OF COUNTRIES	38	169,079,200	4,449,453	51,652,497	1,359,276	116,067,427	3,054,406
16	DOOM SQUAD	31	161,089,645	5,196,440	51,723,836	1,668,511	107,697,298	3,474,106
17	POST GRUNGE SUPERGROUP	68	152,795,431	2,246,992	52,724,432	775,359	99,295,640	1,460,230
18	GLOBAL ALLIANCE AND TREATY ORGANIZATION	47	147,379,102	3,135,726	51,522,064	1,096,214	94,760,824	2,016,188
19	KNIGHTS OF THE ROUND TABLE	79	141,361,386	1,789,385	44,638,617	565,046	96,157,723	1,217,186
20	THE WOLVES	14	138,863,879	9,918,849	56,289,160	4,020,654	78,554,065	5,611,005

 

Top 20 in average casualties:

 

			Total Casualties		Attacking		Defending
Rank	Alliance Name	Members	Count	Average	Count	Average	Count	Average
1	DOOMBIRD DOOMCAVE	12	232,585,487	19,382,124	80,500,195	6,708,350	145,376,942	12,114,745
2	THE WOLVES	14	138,863,879	9,918,849	56,289,160	4,020,654	78,554,065	5,611,005
3	NON GRATA	89	741,921,783	8,336,200	264,836,285	2,975,689	474,109,809	5,327,077
4	THE GRAND LODGE OF FREEMASONS	16	126,923,055	7,932,691	40,586,498	2,536,656	83,799,901	5,237,494
5	FARK	36	267,245,354	7,423,482	95,700,317	2,658,342	168,886,695	4,691,297
6	SPARTA	35	259,695,834	7,419,881	75,875,018	2,167,858	181,652,958	5,190,085
7	NORDREICH	18	126,648,311	7,036,017	46,043,515	2,557,973	78,046,823	4,335,935
8	THE TEMPLAR KNIGHTS	20	138,458,630	6,922,931	45,818,599	2,290,930	90,349,101	4,517,455
9	PIRATES OF THE PARROT ORDER	9	59,995,443	6,666,160	19,625,186	2,180,576	38,189,681	4,243,298
10	NEW POLAR ORDER	82	495,931,140	6,047,941	173,796,851	2,119,474	320,014,815	3,902,620
11	RANDOM INSANITY ALLIANCE	17	101,987,672	5,999,275	34,813,691	2,047,864	65,126,117	3,830,948
12	VIRIDIAN ENTENTE	40	224,552,958	5,613,824	75,705,376	1,892,634	146,954,948	3,673,874
13	NORTH ATLANTIC DEFENSE COALITION	5	26,274,546	5,254,909	7,786,819	1,557,364	16,930,363	3,386,073
14	DOOM SQUAD	31	161,089,645	5,196,440	51,723,836	1,668,511	107,697,298	3,474,106
15	WE ARE PERTH ARMY	9	45,348,209	5,038,690	17,022,366	1,891,374	26,434,469	2,937,163
16	ARGENT	38	183,396,153	4,826,215	68,262,905	1,796,392	113,336,856	2,982,549
17	INVICTA	9	42,312,880	4,701,431	13,375,768	1,486,196	27,450,916	3,050,102
18	MOSTLY HARMLESS ALLIANCE	27	125,500,382	4,648,162	43,483,991	1,610,518	80,405,873	2,977,995
19	THE DARK TEMPLAR	49	219,748,539	4,484,664	78,947,811	1,611,180	139,189,548	2,840,603
20	CHRISTIAN COALITION OF COUNTRIES	38	169,079,200	4,449,453	51,652,497	1,359,276	116,067,427	3,054,406

 

The League has an average casualty count of over 17.5M. We exceed every other alliance save for DBDC, yet we are once again overlooked. Rectify this error now. Further insults will not be tolerated.

[Johnny Apocalypse]

8 minutes ago, Rebel Virginia said:

The League has an average casualty count of over 17.5M. We exceed every other alliance save for DBDC, yet we are once again overlooked. Rectify this error now. Further insults will not be tolerated.

 

You'd better do what The League says @Jason8

[jerdge]

Though somewhat unoriginal, this... Stats Nerd Pride Week came with a lil bit of Hakai satire. Overlooked, yes, but still thumbs up from me.

 

Thanks to everyone involved.

[firingline]

5 hours ago, jerdge said:

Though somewhat unoriginal, this... Stats Nerd Pride Week came with a lil bit of Hakai satire. Overlooked, yes, but still thumbs up from me.

 

Thanks to everyone involved.

 

The only thing Hakai's post managed to do is remind me that we not only took 10th place from GATO, we took sanctioned status from Argent, and he really shouldn't be flying that flag anymore on these forums.

 

Time to fix the glitch.

 

[Johnny Apocalypse]

8 hours ago, jerdge said:

Though somewhat unoriginal, this... Stats Nerd Pride Week came with a lil bit of Hakai satire. Overlooked, yes, but still thumbs up from me.

 

Thanks to everyone involved.

 

The OWF is now only to be used for the purpose of measuring dicks using aid-slot percentiles as a metric. Which probably has something to do with how stagnant it is lately, it hardly makes for a dynamic and engaging political discourse when almost every thread has a flock of parrots talking about how big or small their numbers are. 

 

fig.1 - FiringLine 

 

That being said I welcome the creation of this thread from NATO and applaud the prosperity of another democratic alliance on this planet.

[firingline]

15 hours ago, Johnny Apocalypse said:

 

The OWF is now only to be used for the purpose of measuring dicks using aid-slot percentiles as a metric. Which probably has something to do with how stagnant it is lately, it hardly makes for a dynamic and engaging political discourse when almost every thread has a flock of parrots talking about how big or small their numbers are. 

 

fig.1 - FiringLine 

 

That being said I welcome the creation of this thread from NATO and applaud the prosperity of another democratic alliance on this planet.

 

I thought we've discussed this. RFI is free to make a move any time they want. Come on, make the OWF more lively. It's most certainly your turn to do something!

[jerdge]

21 hours ago, firingline said:

 

The only thing Hakai's post managed to do is remind me that we not only took 10th place from GATO, we took sanctioned status from Argent, and he really shouldn't be flying that flag anymore on these forums.

 

Time to fix the glitch.

 

Now that I think of it, your posts too could become great satire with only minor tweaks. You may want to consider the idea.

I still love you even if you don't, though.

 

18 hours ago, Johnny Apocalypse said:

 

The OWF is now only to be used for the purpose of measuring dicks using aid-slot percentiles as a metric. Which probably has something to do with how stagnant it is lately, it hardly makes for a dynamic and engaging political discourse when almost every thread has a flock of parrots talking about how big or small their numbers are. 

 

fig.1 - FiringLine 

 

That being said I welcome the creation of this thread from NATO and applaud the prosperity of another democratic alliance on this planet.

IMHO the OWF has last been great to read over ten years ago. I don't even think that it's just that I'm old (and yes, I'm too old for this stuff).

That said, it is for anyone here using it as they see fit, I welcome alliances presenting their stats and bragging about them, and I welcome people bragging about their achievements and making fun of each other's.

We could use a bit more of variety and of irony, anyway, one can always hope for it.

[White Chocolate]

12 hours ago, firingline said:

 

I thought we've discussed this. RFI is free to make a move any time they want. Come on, make the OWF more lively. It's most certainly your turn to do something!

RFI, and GATO in particular, made the most recent “move.”  We came very, very close to war over it.  GATO got what they wanted and so the war did not happen.  Not every “move” results in war.
 

Of course, not being in government you would not know.  I’m not being critical of your point.  However, now that you do know I’m sure you’ll move on and find some other reason to !@#$%* and moan.  Enjoy.  

[SirWilliam]

I have reviewed the contents of this thread so accordingly I am posting here to inform the CyberWorld that I have reviewed the contents of this thread.

 

[firingline]

10 hours ago, White Chocolate said:

RFI, and GATO in particular, made the most recent “move.”  We came very, very close to war over it.  GATO got what they wanted and so the war did not happen.  Not every “move” results in war.

 

I don't know which part of this is funnier:

1) Openly admitting to plotting against and breaking a treaty with your ally TW

2) Claiming that coming "very, very close to war" is making the most recent move lmao.

 

I'm also not quite sure what being in government has to do with knowing what happens in CN. Certainly you've been around long enough to know that's not how any of this works?

[White Chocolate]

19 hours ago, firingline said:

 

I don't know which part of this is funnier:

1) Openly admitting to plotting against and breaking a treaty with your ally TW

2) Claiming that coming "very, very close to war" is making the most recent move lmao.

 

I'm also not quite sure what being in government has to do with knowing what happens in CN. Certainly you've been around long enough to know that's not how any of this works?

1.  CLAWS did not break any treaties with any ally.  We did not plot against an ally either.  This includes TW.  CLAWS made it very clear that we would not agree to any attacks on TW.  I’m not surprised though, that you brought that up.  It’s something you will harp on anytime you can fit it into a response to me for a long time.  
 

2. I disagree.  GATO wanted something and made it clear that they were willing to go war to get it.  Instead they ended up getting what they wanted.  Not only did they make a move, they got what they wanted as a result.  Not only is that a “move” - that’s a win.  
 

Unless by “move” you mean start a war just to start a war.  If that’s the case, lmao!
 

 

[HeroofTime55]

JA getting the chance to ruin another alliance and that alliance being GATO is one of my favorite things to watch.

[firingline]

4 hours ago, White Chocolate said:

1.  CLAWS did not break any treaties with any ally.  We did not plot against an ally either.  This includes TW.  CLAWS made it very clear that we would not agree to any attacks on TW.  I’m not surprised though, that you brought that up.  It’s something you will harp on anytime you can fit it into a response to me for a long time.  
 

2. I disagree.  GATO wanted something and made it clear that they were willing to go war to get it.  Instead they ended up getting what they wanted.  Not only did they make a move, they got what they wanted as a result.  Not only is that a “move” - that’s a win.  
 

Unless by “move” you mean start a war just to start a war.  If that’s the case, lmao!
 

 

 

1. To be clear - you did break your treaty with TW. Multiple times, in multiple ways. That's why TW dumped you immediately after the war. 

 

2. You can disagree, but you're wrong. GATO's ally was defeated in the war, and splintered shortly thereafter. You lost a valuable ally in TW. If those were RFI's objectives and something you consider a win, "lmao!"

 

JA's made quite clear what GATO considers to be making a move, and none of what RFI has done in the last three years counts. The most aggressive thing you've done is to move to black sphere to try to piss off Sparta. That's it. In three years. Because at the end of the day, RFI is full of weak, spineless leaders who rely on everybody else to make things happen because they're too scared that if they make any real moves, they'll lose. 

 

 

 

[CrinkledStraw]

1 hour ago, HeroofTime55 said:

JA getting the chance to ruin another alliance and that alliance being GATO is one of my favorite things to watch.

I truly can’t agree more.

[Master Hakai]

 

do not bother talking to me until more of the pe ople in your alliance affiliation are sending foreign aid back and forth to each other (this validates them as individuals)