Timberland Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 So over the years there have been countless wars to end the punishment of perma ZI. Yet I find there are still alliances out there that still quietly practice or threaten to practice it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Levistus Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 Oh please, like anyone could enforce perma ZI on you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willaim Kreiger Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 Seems from their alliance description they hate you, and everyone else. Not incredibly surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timberland Posted October 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 It's not the point Levi, Perma ZI has been abolished out of CN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevolutionaryRebel Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 By 'abolished', you mean 'fell out of favour and considered really poor form', then maybe. But it hasn't been outlawed (pun intended). You may be confusing EZI and PZI and you wouldn't be the first to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz Ferdinand Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 (edited) Honestly, I only have one person who I have on my personal Perma ZI list, and you aren't that person. Edited October 15, 2013 by Franz Ferdinand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krzyzewskiville Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 By 'abolished', you mean 'fell out of favour and considered really poor form', then maybe. But it hasn't been outlawed (pun intended). You may be confusing EZI and PZI and you wouldn't be the first to do so. Perhaps, but Perma ZI (and the even worse Eternal ZI) have fallen out of public favor in a major way, since Karma. They are not only not generally accepted, they are reviled tactics on Planet Bob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timberland Posted October 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 By 'abolished', you mean 'fell out of favour and considered really poor form', then maybe. But it hasn't been outlawed (pun intended). You may be confusing EZI and PZI and you wouldn't be the first to do so. Unless you're a re-roll try looking up the Karma war. Tell the alliances that fought in that war its not outlawed. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hershey Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 What's the difference between EZI and PZI? They're both never-ending, aren't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander shepard Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 Not that they could enforce it against your extremely tiny overpowered nation which is arguably worse for Bob than a threat of PZI. I imagine your nation is an annoyance and well there is really nothing to do other than make empty threats unless they had someone within your range with good wonders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 What's the difference between EZI and PZI? They're both never-ending, aren't they?PZI is done with if you found a new nation, even if under the same name. EZI carries over to new nations you found, to the point that people (OOC: actively looked up IPs) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadie Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 Unless you're a re-roll try looking up the Karma war. Tell the alliances that fought in that war its not outlawed. Cheers Rev has been around before. Also lol at the surprise they're in for if they think they're dealing with a typical small nation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereno Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 If the person can't be bothered to punctuate their sentences, I highly doubt they can be bothered to actually enforce a PZI sentence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) If the person can't be bothered to punctuate their sentences, I highly doubt they can be bothered to actually enforce a PZI sentence.I could name names proving you wrong but that might be considered a low blow(hint) Edited October 16, 2013 by Neo Uruk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timberland Posted October 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) [20:52] <MattTheCelt[TOR]> So you assume I put him up to posting on the owf? [20:52] <Timberland> nope i did [20:53] <Timberland> i wanted the cn world to know your alliance still practices it [20:53] <MattTheCelt[TOR]> everyone already knew what we did lol [20:53] <MattTheCelt[TOR]> it's not nothing new [20:53] <Timberland> oh nice Coming from the alliance leader himself Edited October 16, 2013 by Timberland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Personally speaking, I don't see anything wrong with PZI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereno Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 I could name names proving you wrong but that might be considered a low blow (hint) ow man :< Coming from the alliance leader himself Personally speaking, I don't see anything wrong with PZI. I'm not sure which of these posts makes the TOR alliance (whoever the fuck they are) look worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
im317 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) this isn't actually PZI despite the wording. PZI requires you to not have any way of getting peace. there is nothing in that message to indicate that being the case. in fact quite the opposite, they appear to be asking you to stop attacking them, beyond that there hasn't(yet) been any other demands. Edited October 16, 2013 by im317 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schattenmann Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 I can't name one war that has been fought to end PZI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChairmanHal Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 So over the years there have been countless wars to end the punishment of perma ZI. Yet I find there are still alliances out there that still quietly practice or threaten to practice it. This lacks screen shot of your War Search Results...TOR is the least of your worries, or at least it should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krzyzewskiville Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 I can't name one war that has been fought to end PZI. Karma, for one. It was certainly a grievance of the Karma coalition against Pacifica and the Continuum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChairmanHal Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Karma, for one. It was certainly a grievance of the Karma coalition against Pacifica and the Continuum. I believe that was a rhetorical statement. In fact some of the alliances on the Karma side of the war maintained PZI lists before and after the war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schattenmann Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) Karma, for one. It was certainly a grievance of the Karma coalition against Pacifica and the Continuum. The Karma War was fought to replace the Pacifican Hegemony with a C&G/SF hegemony. Nearly all of the major alliances in Karma practiced PZI, and even more of them maintained treaties with PZI'ing AAs. VE, the trigger of Karma, kept Ephriam Grey as a pet for a year and awarded him the Viridian Cross and protected him after the disbandment of his AA; he was a prolific PZIer who got off PZIing prominent oppositional figures (such as myself and Walford) without even actually encountering them outside the OWF (and I hope he is dead in a gutter somewhere). The excessive use of PZI by NPO and its allies was a major point in raising the global ire that made Karma possible, but Karma was not fought over PZI, it was fought by PZIers. Edited October 16, 2013 by Schattenmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hakai Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Eternal-Perma-ZI Timberland let's go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWilliam Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 You have the time and energy to complain but not to respond to the PM where I attempted to poach you? What the hell man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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