shahenshah Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Nobody Expects' timestamp='1354273356' post='3058516'] Firstly I wasn't involved in Mjolnir at all, not being a Valhallan, secondly any Alliance I have been involved in has never had a treaty conflict at a time of war. [/quote] Now now NE, he speaks from rich experience on convenience. Edited November 30, 2012 by shahenshah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander shepard Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 Future conflicts are in the future, rollings usually happen in pairs so lets keep it that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garion Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 [quote name='Devilyn Caster' timestamp='1354258564' post='3058472'] [img]http://img.youtube.com/vi/YcdkRxJcLrI/0.jpg[/img] acquired. [/quote] Farkers make for excellent meatshields: must be their old, cranky bodies, all those stiff muscles... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeros Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 [quote name='Johnny Apocalypse' timestamp='1354272656' post='3058515'] Kinda like how Mjolnir wasn't a treaty of convenience right? Good luck with your inevitable treaty conflicts in the future, but with all of your fine mature friends from various corners of the web I doubt there'll ever be a conflict of interest and you'll all be friends forever [/quote] Because everyone is a prophet and can see years into the future. Because there "could be conflict" in the future, we should all just sit here twiddling our thumbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timberland Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Alterego' timestamp='1354274408' post='3058519'] Ive noticed others losing them like they had a dose of the clap. [/quote] L-O-!@#$@#$-L I had to quote this Its been a pleasure getting to know you Farkers. Edited November 30, 2012 by Timberland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sultan Ahmed Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 I like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Apocalypse Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 [quote name='Aeros' timestamp='1354281552' post='3058532'] Because everyone is a prophet and can see years into the future. Because there "could be conflict" in the future, we should all just sit here twiddling our thumbs [/quote] I'm not saying that am I? While it is convenient for you to band together as many alliances as possible under your banner it will not remain convenient once your goals are achieved. I have no problem with your actions, my problem lies with the mindless hails coming from both memberships and governments incapable of looking at the political nature and benefits behind such a treaty or are choosing to ignore it so that it doesn't become a talking point. As if this (and a number of your other treaty acquisitions) is really about friendship. Get real. You are building a sphere of power, preparing to establish yourselves as the hegemony, the top dog etc. You don't need friends, you need bodies for the fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Expects Posted November 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 [quote name='Johnny Apocalypse' timestamp='1354290275' post='3058556'] I'm not saying that am I? While it is convenient for you to band together as many alliances as possible under your banner it will not remain convenient once your goals are achieved. I have no problem with your actions, my problem lies with the mindless hails coming from both memberships and governments incapable of looking at the political nature and benefits behind such a treaty or are choosing to ignore it so that it doesn't become a talking point. As if this (and a number of your other treaty acquisitions) is really about friendship. Get real. You are building a sphere of power, preparing to establish yourselves as the hegemony, the top dog etc. You don't need friends, you need bodies for the fire. [/quote] Yes we have clearly lost the run of ourselves with all these new treaties you think we have signed. [b]Treaties carried over from Merger AA's[/b] Duckroll MDoAP - SNAFU MDoAP - New Pacific Order MnDoAP - The Dark Templar ODoAP - The Phoenix Federation [b]New treaties[/b] MnDoAP - Argent ODoAP - The Javahouse League ODP - Fark Sons of Anarchy Protectorate Bloc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Bad Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 [quote name='Johnny Apocalypse' timestamp='1354290275' post='3058556'] I'm not saying that am I? While it is convenient for you to band together as many alliances as possible under your banner it will not remain convenient once your goals are achieved. I have no problem with your actions, my problem lies with the mindless hails coming from both memberships and governments incapable of looking at the political nature and benefits behind such a treaty or are choosing to ignore it so that it doesn't become a talking point. As if this (and a number of your other treaty acquisitions) is really about friendship. Get real. You are building a sphere of power, preparing to establish yourselves as the hegemony, the top dog etc. You don't need friends, you need bodies for the fire. [/quote] I know that is the way things have worked on your side of the block, which is why everyone has been happy to get out but, maybe just maybe other people have learned from those failures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IYIyTh Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 [quote name='Johnny Apocalypse' timestamp='1354272656' post='3058515'] Kinda like how Mjolnir wasn't a treaty of convenience right? [/quote] You really aren't one to be talking about treaties of convenience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D34th Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 [quote name='IYIyTh' timestamp='1354294629' post='3058575'] You really aren't one to be talking about treaties of convenience. [/quote] I disagree, he is an expert on the subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litha Riddle Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 Oh nice one. AI and FARK make a cute pairing. Congratulations! o/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buds The Man Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 [quote name='Johnny Apocalypse' timestamp='1354272656' post='3058515'] Kinda like how Mjolnir wasn't a treaty of convenience right? Good luck with your inevitable treaty conflicts in the future, but with all of your fine mature friends from various corners of the web I doubt there'll ever be a conflict of interest and you'll all be friends forever [/quote] I love it how people who werent involved think they know way more than those of us that were. Considering I was a main player in putting that bloc together it was never designed as a conveniance. It was a group of AAs that was targeted by another group and we knew we would be picked off one by one. Mjolnir never saw its full potential reached !@#$ happens. PB never accomplished half of what it could have done either. Considering 3 of the 4 signatories remained together it was far from a conveniance treaty. Plague we have far fewer treaties than most. Im personally not a fan of FARK but they have put in the time to get too know us and we have put in the time to get to know them, it has not been a short journey but one thought out over time. My AA decided this was a good fit and I support that and will honor that treaty regardless of personal feelings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saniiro Matsudaira Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 [quote name='Devilyn Caster' timestamp='1354258564' post='3058472'] [img]http://img.youtube.com/vi/YcdkRxJcLrI/0.jpg[/img] [/quote] Everyone knows that each Fark GI is given the issue of one triple-layered bacon-weaved breastplate before battle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeros Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 [quote name='Saniiro Matsudaira' timestamp='1354296840' post='3058594'] Everyone knows that each Fark GI is given the issue of one triple-layered bacon-weaved breastplate before battle. [/quote] Sounds delicious. Can I have one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrenster Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 Congratulations to our friends on this treaty. As for the current discussion, all treaties have an inherent political dimension to them. Alliances are political entities, so of course there are business discussions. But to imply that this is a treaty of convenience with a narrow minded goal is the same level of propaganda used against MK-TOP and Umb-TOP or other countless coincidental treaties. It's pointless rhetoric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daikos Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Jrenster' timestamp='1354298233' post='3058603'] Congratulations to our friends on this treaty. As for the current discussion, all treaties have an inherent political dimension to them. Alliances are political entities, so of course there are business discussions. But to imply that this is a treaty of convenience with a narrow minded goal is the same level of propaganda used against MK-TOP and Umb-TOP or other countless coincidental treaties. It's pointless rhetoric. [/quote] Rhetoric in CN? For sure not. EDIT: double quote Edited November 30, 2012 by Daikos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omniscient1 Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 [quote name='Johnny Apocalypse' timestamp='1354270165' post='3058509'] Your mutual goals will only take you so far together before you find each other threatening. The enemy of my enemy is my friend but only as long as my enemy still breathes. Good luck, not that you need it. [/quote] Oh wow, this thread is hilarious. First TLR speaks about meat shields. Then the ex-president of Umbrella talks about treaties of convenience. Now all we need is RV to give a monologue on the evils of the color blue, and GOONS to decry the evils of tech raiding! Don't disappoint me guys. I almost have hypocrisy bingo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saniiro Matsudaira Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 I think the more serious point is that no one is concerned for Pansy with all of AI's new treaties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogaden Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 [quote name='Saniiro Matsudaira' timestamp='1354306392' post='3058642'] I think the more serious point is that no one is concerned for Pansy with all of AI's new treaties. [/quote] I'm sure Fark's sheep herds are perfectly safe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IYIyTh Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 [quote name='Ogaden' timestamp='1354306945' post='3058645'] I'm sure Fark's sheep herds are perfectly safe [/quote] That's part of the secret treaty. No one was supposed to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogaden Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 [quote name='IYIyTh' timestamp='1354307316' post='3058648'] That's part of the secret treaty. No one was supposed to know. [/quote] Dammit, I can't keep from breaking OpSec [img]http://rialliance.net/Smileys/default/FacePalm.gif[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daikos Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 [quote name='Omniscient1' timestamp='1354304424' post='3058633'] Oh wow, this thread is hilarious. First TLR speaks about meat shields. Then the ex-president of Umbrella talks about treaties of convenience. Now all we need is RV to give a monologue on the evils of the color blue, and GOONS to decry the evils of tech raiding! Don't disappoint me guys. I almost have hypocrisy bingo! [/quote] When can I expect your editorial on the evils of alliance hopping? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercoolyellow Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 [quote name='Daikos' timestamp='1354308319' post='3058653'] When can I expect your editorial on the evils of alliance hopping? [/quote] Well it would line up well with what we've seen in this thread. I say do it Omniscent1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrie Melodies Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 [quote name='Devilyn Caster' timestamp='1354258564' post='3058472'] [img]http://img.youtube.com/vi/YcdkRxJcLrI/0.jpg[/img] acquired. [/quote] Needs more bacon to be effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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