Bob Janova Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 [quote]I think OWF got too caught up in its own witticisms to realize that ramirus represents only one third of the conclave. Gre doesn't follow his personal opinions just because he happens to be the most outspoken in certain venues.[/quote] Anyone who has any knowledge of the situation knows that any Grämlins who were active, interested in Conclave and did not follow his personal opinions had their life in Grämlins made so obnoxious by Ram that they left. So the people that are left (even those that were left at the start of this idiocy) were either inactive, not interested in Conclave or followed Ram's script to the T. You and MPK have both been in the last of those three categories for some time. You may not have quite the degree of insanity that he does (I can believe that you finally got around to overriding him and voting him down to declare peace) but that is a very small difference compared to what exists in a healthy alliance and government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Miller Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 [quote name='Jens of the desert' timestamp='1280682228' post='2397170'] Wouldn't anything else have almost been impossible? [/quote] I was probably not as clear as I should have been. Yes, anything else would have been nearly impossible. However, their wars declared greatly exceeded that proportionality. Like I said, they did a heck of a job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre27 Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 [quote name='Coaxl' timestamp='1280682959' post='2397185'] The members provide the safety for each other... [/quote] Thank you for reinforcing my point. If the Gremlin members are no longer able to provide each other with basic protection though.... I've stated my opinion and you've stated yours, let's just agree we disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadrian Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 Game over. IRON wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dochartaigh Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 [quote name='Alfred von Tirpitz' timestamp='1280645495' post='2396878'] I think that in itself, would have been a breach of normal protocol. Once a deal has been signed by all parties, for one to come along later and say that it needs to amended, would not go down very well with the rest of the signatories. [/quote] i agree, though it seems some on Gre's side was quite fine with allowing the treaty to be amended. To my knowledge, IRON/DAWN's side never was asked. i was stating had Gre participated in the original talks as any normal and smart alliance would have done, they could have gotten their little ammendment added on as part of the original text instead of waiting 3 months later on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLights Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 Congratulations to our friends at IRON & DAWN. Good luck on your road of reconstruction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis Quezada Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 Congratulations to IRON and Ramirus for their victory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farnsworth Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 Wow. It's about time, eh? ...Cpt Obvious, I know. Congrats on peace, all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Savage Man Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 The little !@#$ storm we kicked up way back is over, just over six months after the fact. Thank god the pseudo-moralist grandstanding and the arrogant martyr complex is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwoody Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 Little did I realize, Gre has actually won. Gre claimed they were continuing the war to break the cycle of consecutive world wars where they attacked IRON. The only way for them to be 100% certain was to destroy themselves. Well played, Ramirus, well played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eden Taylor Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 [quote name='bigwoody' timestamp='1280726297' post='2397976'] Little did I realize, Gre has actually won. Gre claimed they were continuing the war to break the cycle of consecutive world wars where they attacked IRON. The only way for them to be 100% certain was to destroy themselves. Well played, Ramirus, well played. [/quote] This is probably the most logical explanation I have yet heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOLtex Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 [quote name='bigwoody' timestamp='1280726297' post='2397976'] Little did I realize, Gre has actually won. Gre claimed they were continuing the war to break the cycle of consecutive world wars where they attacked IRON. The only way for them to be 100% certain was to destroy themselves. Well played, Ramirus, well played. [/quote] Yep, this statement here means this thread is over. Don't think it'll be topped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoddessOfLinn Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 Congrattulation to both Grämlins and IRON&DAWN on having peace! To Grämlins: Good luck rebuilding (PR, Member numbers, NS). To IRON&DAWN: Got to salute you for giving white peace! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cristoir Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 Yay peace. now i need a new sig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamemaster1 Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 [quote name='bigwoody' timestamp='1280726297' post='2397976'] Little did I realize, Gre has actually won. Gre claimed they were continuing the war to break the cycle of consecutive world wars where they attacked IRON. The only way for them to be 100% certain was to destroy themselves. Well played, Ramirus, well played. [/quote] How did you manage to fit logic and humor together so well? You've won the thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongrel Posted August 3, 2010 Report Share Posted August 3, 2010 Congrats IRON, Personally I wouldn't have shown as much mercy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caleb279 Posted August 3, 2010 Report Share Posted August 3, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Il Impero Romano' timestamp='1280598082' post='2396093'] Well IRON, you took a ridiculous situation and came out on top. Earned a bit of respect in my eyes and congrats on peace. Though, you really had no reason to give them white peace here. [/quote] This. Also, IRON, you have much more patience and mercy than I. Edited August 3, 2010 by Caleb279 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapmanej Posted August 3, 2010 Report Share Posted August 3, 2010 (edited) I would like to congratulate IRON And company. This strategy against Ram and friends was one of the best displays of pragmatic realism I have seen. Even though it took time and patience, you have achieved victory. Edited August 3, 2010 by rapmanej Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercoolyellow Posted August 3, 2010 Report Share Posted August 3, 2010 [quote name='bigwoody' timestamp='1280726297' post='2397976'] Little did I realize, Gre has actually won. Gre claimed they were continuing the war to break the cycle of consecutive world wars where they attacked IRON. The only way for them to be 100% certain was to destroy themselves. Well played, Ramirus, well played. [/quote] I have come to the conclusion that Ramirus must be an IRON spy. :ducks: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clash Posted August 3, 2010 Report Share Posted August 3, 2010 The Gre-IRON merger should be announced pretty soon now. Who else had 8/6 in the office pool? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alterego Posted August 4, 2010 Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 Lets see if it sticks. I see someone at 1000 infra and buying nukes for the first time in a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warrior Posted August 4, 2010 Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 I know who. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haflinger Posted August 4, 2010 Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 [quote name='Ramirus Maximus' timestamp='1280865962' post='2399837'] You can rest assured, I had nothing to do with the so-called "white peace", and did not authorize my signature being used by Peron. [/quote] Well, that's interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warrior Posted August 4, 2010 Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 (edited) [quote]Ramirus Maximus, on 03 August 2010 - 09:06 PM, said: You can rest assured, I had nothing to do with the so-called "white peace"[/quote] Surprise, surprise.. You can be sure that no one on Planet Bob believed that you would sign off on white peace. You'd sign your suicide note first I'm sure. Edited August 4, 2010 by The Warrior Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iotupa Posted August 4, 2010 Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 Now what will happen to my massive announcement? Also, how in the world is Ramirus STILL in power? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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