Hayzell Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 [quote name='Shinpah' date='05 February 2010 - 11:42 PM' timestamp='1265431379' post='2162948'] In C&G's defense, your willingness to preemptively attack us proves that you are a threat [/quote] We are a threat only insofar as we feel threatened; persuing us to our mutual destruction when you (general 'you') could very easily have ended the war and tensions seems to very much reinforce the fact that you harbored a desire prior to this conflict to see our destruction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanru Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 [quote name='wickedj' date='05 February 2010 - 10:47 PM' timestamp='1265428065' post='2162804'] btw, for those of us keeping score at home..who all does this remove from the war? just Immortals? [/quote] Immortals, UCN, TPF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpacingOutMan Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 [quote name='SilentFury' date='05 February 2010 - 11:49 PM' timestamp='1265431795' post='2162976'] lulz @ immortals .. cant take the heat then get out of the kitchen.. Should of not joined a war if your going to back out of it in 2days way to leave ur allys the ones you where helping out to dry.. Also LoL @ white peace this is more of a surrender with white trying to make the immortals look decent [/quote] lulz @ your inability to make a point. I didn't know that having bill-locked nations would really be that useful to an ally. Fairly sure that they'd be better off fighting another day then being forced into perma-cryostasis. And has The Resistance ever faced 10-1 odds, them being the 1, before? Really, just out of curiosity. Until then, your opinion is baseless. The Immortals made a mistake in being unprepared for war, but they still jumped in to support their ally. They hung in as long as they could, and should be respectable enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tequila Mockingbird Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 The tides are turning, retreat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TehChron Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 [quote name='Wappas' date='06 February 2010 - 04:54 AM' timestamp='1265432053' post='2162992'] Immortals, UCN, TPF [/quote] I read it as being only the immortals, but as an involved party, you'd probably be more knowledgeable of the circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanru Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 [quote name='Chron' date='05 February 2010 - 11:57 PM' timestamp='1265432247' post='2163000'] I read it as being only the immortals, but as an involved party, you'd probably be more knowledgeable of the circumstances. [/quote] UCN and TPF are only at war with immortals, i would gather that they are no longer involved since we are no longer involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give Me Water Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Wappas' date='05 February 2010 - 11:54 PM' timestamp='1265432053' post='2162992'] Immortals, UCN, TPF [/quote] This does not remove us from the war. Only you guys are. That being said, good luck to you guys you fought well. o/ Immortals o/ UCN o/ NEW o/ FEAR o/ TPF EDIT: To clarify, we are not at war with anyone, however we are not required to remain neutral Edited February 6, 2010 by Give Me Water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popsumpot Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 You guys should follow the Immortals off your sinking ship! All jokes aside, the Immortals have copped a very harsh deal here. They went to war on treaty obligations against a far larger alliance, with numerous fresh allies geared for war. They received little to no back up from their allies in CSN and TGE (The former has been busy, I'm not sure about the latter), and they have been hopelessly outnumbered. They are a new alliance, with almost no war-experience. All of their peace mode nations are infra heavy nations, lacking in both tech and WRCs. Their war mode nations have each been overwhelmed by the counter attacks, and are sinking slowly, while very quickly running out of war chest. The Immortal had the option of keeping their reserves in Peace mode and let their 1st wave die, or send their soft banking nations to the slaughter. While the Immortal certainly could have said $%&@ it and kept on fighting, I would like to commend them for putting their alliance first. Their nations fought against bigger and more numerous opponents and did not give up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haflinger Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 [quote name='TypoNinja' date='05 February 2010 - 10:45 PM' timestamp='1265427914' post='2162797'] Because going around and making pre-emptive strikes is not an approved practice here. We established that in Karma, you must remember that bit. [/quote] Oh really. [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=31286"]What's this then?[/url] Historical revisionism... I'd say I expected better from VE, but I suck at lying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinpah Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 [quote name='Hayzell' date='05 February 2010 - 11:52 PM' timestamp='1265431950' post='2162982'] We are a threat only insofar as we feel threatened; persuing us to our mutual destruction when you (general 'you') could very easily have ended the war and tensions seems to very much reinforce the fact that you harbored a desire prior to this conflict to see our destruction. [/quote] Paranoia, delicious Paranoia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilkenny Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 [quote name='Wappas' date='05 February 2010 - 10:54 PM' timestamp='1265432053' post='2162992'] Immortals, UCN, TPF [/quote] TPF and UCN are just not currently fighting anyone, only Immortals are to reamin nuetral in this conflict. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D34th Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 The behavior of some of The Immortals's allies here are very classy, congrats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBallMan Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 [quote name='mhawk' date='05 February 2010 - 09:48 PM' timestamp='1265424491' post='2162656'] As you will recall obm, we fought for months because our friends enemies would not allow their exit without becoming a tech slave for a year. The alliances that have attacked CnG have all sought peace terms, yet the continuation of the war exists for the sole purpose of extracting revenge or attempts to destroy certain alliances. Asking a small alliance several treaties down to get nuked into oblivion so larger alliances can get some revenge is pretty selfish. [/quote] Yes, of course. That is exactly why these guys signed a piece of paper and then honored not even one round of wars, because they couldn't fathom fighting for some other larger alliances "vendetta". This is ridiculous, that you would honor these people who don't even pretend to honor the spirit of their word. Honorable exits are one thing (NEW leaving the Karma war springs to mind), but this is a joke. Don't spin, it becomes you not. TPF deserved at least an honorable opponent. You didn't get that. There is no victory here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firkked Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 White peace FTW. I hope this is a harbringer for future announcements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathcat Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 [quote name='OneBallMan' date='05 February 2010 - 09:24 PM' timestamp='1265433881' post='2163078'] Yes, of course. That is exactly why these guys signed a piece of paper and then honored not even one round of wars, because they couldn't fathom fighting for some other larger alliances "vendetta". This is ridiculous, that you would honor these people who don't even pretend to honor the spirit of their word. Honorable exits are one thing (NEW leaving the Karma war springs to mind), but this is a joke. Don't spin, it becomes you not. TPF deserved at least an honorable opponent. You didn't get that. There is no victory here. [/quote] Damn I miss ya OBM! Congrats on white peace and saving infra for another day Immortals. Regardless of your preparedness for this war, you kept your heads and your cool. As for this whole CF of a war.. bleh! May it end soon so we can get back to prepping for a war that makes sense.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guffey Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 congrats on achieving white peace all. This really serves as a reminder to all, If you are not prepared for this full scale war, don't be in it. This is not going to be about which side has better stats, it is about which side is more motivated and will persist longer. Who is willing to go all the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stumpy Jung Il Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 All I see here is an alliance abandoning its allies. Sorry if I ruined the hail fest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandmdave Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 [quote name='Hayzell' date='05 February 2010 - 11:31 PM' timestamp='1265430697' post='2162903'] Bolded part is completely absurd. Had CnG quickly offered peace it would have been irrefutable proof that there has been no desire to destroy TOP, IRON,etc. It would have been a huge PR victory for your side and very much ended our "paranoia". It would have cost you nothing, saved your nations much, and made the world more peaceful generally. Instead, having seen the opportunity to destroy us and extract massive reps, you turned this into a major war to eliminate us as a threat to you. While this may now be an aggressive war on our part, your side has done much to prove that it is justified. Also, congrats to The Immortals on achieving peace. [/quote] http://www.numeraire.com/download/WhatIsCircularReasoning.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhawk Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 (edited) [quote name='OneBallMan' date='05 February 2010 - 09:24 PM' timestamp='1265433881' post='2163078'] Yes, of course. That is exactly why these guys signed a piece of paper and then honored not even one round of wars, because they couldn't fathom fighting for some other larger alliances "vendetta". This is ridiculous, that you would honor these people who don't even pretend to honor the spirit of their word. Honorable exits are one thing (NEW leaving the Karma war springs to mind), but this is a joke. Don't spin, it becomes you not. TPF deserved at least an honorable opponent. You didn't get that. There is no victory here. [/quote] So to all the nations we hit with 7k infra and 1.6m warchest...? My statement to them is they got in over their heads, no reason to go on without being able to resist so that mk can achieve some sort of "advantage" over TOP. Edited February 6, 2010 by mhawk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toraoji Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 good to see this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gantanX Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 Congrats, and nice fight guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tick1 Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 (edited) [quote name='R3nowned' date='06 February 2010 - 02:19 AM' timestamp='1265422797' post='2162573'] One down! o/ TPF o/ NEW o/ FEAR o/ UCN [/quote] 78 more to go! Edited February 6, 2010 by Tick1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwoody Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 Congratulations to the Immortals on peace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Virginia Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 [color="#0000FF"]Wait, the first surrender of the war came from an alliance on the larger side? Oh, this is great.[/color] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantastico Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 White peace means no one won and no one lost. This is the peace I see here and I congratulate all parties on agreeing to it. o\ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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