Bob Janova Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 If only they'd got you to pen the initial apology. That may be what they intended to say, but it certainly isn't what they actually did say. The point about the bad language being directed at a foreigner, and that that is not going to happen again, is missing from the OP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilien Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 (edited) A quick sampling of the public IRC channel of your ally, and by your ally, I mean half of the people posting in this thread ... <MagicalTrevor> err, i have the highest rating <MagicalTrevor> so [removed] you all <MagicalTrevor> additionally, i save you [removed]s so many times <MagicalTrevor> that by the end <MagicalTrevor> i'm [removed] bored of it <MagicalTrevor> so just think "[removed] y'all" ... <Vilien> MK won't exist by the end of 2010 <NuclearPoweredKimJongIl> it will be MEGA[removed]S instead of MUSHROOM KINGDOM <NuclearPoweredKimJongIl> Archon will have converted to [removed] <NuclearPoweredKimJongIl> and lebubu will be a romanian hermit rabbi <Lime[Away]> NPKJIL is a [removed] [removed] <Bob> babyjesus[MK] <Bob> give me HOPs <Vilien> If you get a spy attack how do you figure out who did it <Uranium> judaism <Bob> I FEEL NAKED <Uranium> uncouth lout <NuclearPoweredKimJongIl> [removed]ing little boys with his teeth ... How terribly immoral. Edited January 21, 2010 by Vilien Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeternalis Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 So you're condoning racism now? Perfect. Go fish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorConcept Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 If only they'd got you to pen the initial apology. That may be what they intended to say, but it certainly isn't what they actually did say. The point about the bad language being directed at a foreigner, and that that is not going to happen again, is missing from the OP. Good thing they clarified it as the thread went on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChairmanHal Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 So...lebubu... <NuclearPoweredKimJongIl> and lebubu will be a romanian hermit rabbi I didn't even know you were Jewish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpoiL Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 What disappoints me most, is that OOC matters are taken by some in an IC context and hence need to be discussed in an IC place. The two have no relation with each other. What was that about NSO getting porn posted on your forum and us needing to be destroyed and such? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batallion Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Run to peace mode guys! Oh noes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 A quick sampling of the public IRC channel of your ally, and by your ally, I mean half of the people posting in this thread ... <MagicalTrevor> err, i have the highest rating <MagicalTrevor> so [removed] you all <MagicalTrevor> additionally, i save you [removed]s so many times <MagicalTrevor> that by the end <MagicalTrevor> i'm [removed] bored of it <MagicalTrevor> so just think "[removed] y'all" ... <Vilien> MK won't exist by the end of 2010 <NuclearPoweredKimJongIl> it will be MEGA[removed]S instead of MUSHROOM KINGDOM <NuclearPoweredKimJongIl> Archon will have converted to [removed] <NuclearPoweredKimJongIl> and lebubu will be a romanian hermit rabbi <Lime[Away]> NPKJIL is a [removed] [removed] <Bob> babyjesus[MK] <Bob> give me HOPs <Vilien> If you get a spy attack how do you figure out who did it <Uranium> judaism <Bob> I FEEL NAKED <Uranium> uncouth lout <NuclearPoweredKimJongIl> [removed]ing little boys with his teeth ... How terribly immoral. Wow, those logs don't have me doing anything wrong. I am disappointed D: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennox Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 What was that about NSO getting porn posted on your forum and us needing to be destroyed and such? You are wrong, that account turned out to be his own. We all know he was playing the victim so let us move along little spoil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schattenmann Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 I'm surprised no one has mentioned this, but you're not exactly helping your alliances image right now with that avatar of yours. Probably because no one wanted someone else to say "the people in the avatar aren't doing much to help themselves." Now I've sucked all the air out of the room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mussolandia Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 I disagree about how "half-assed" this is having talked to them about it. You're entitled to your opinion however. I'm surprised they were able to put two sentences together. Keep rockin'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minilla Island Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 People should not forget that Grub has long ago shown the patience of a saint. There was an incident when he went on IRC, and immediately, someone PMed him with, "Heil, Hitler!" It was brushed off then. After this knucklehead showed a couple of times that he had truly had white supremacist views, which was about ten days, Grub outright banned him with Assington's blessing. So, \m/ should consider themselves fortunate thay theyare not under siege right now. They should also be thankful that Grub has such patience. Stand or Die, Nordreich, and Norden Verein were rolled and destroyed for less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starcraftmazter Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Stand or Die, Nordreich, and Norden Verein were rolled and destroyed for less. Again, these are not precedents to follow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaGneT Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 (edited) Doesn't matter, some comments shouldn't be spoken. There is a line you know. [OOC]Yes, that is the IC/OOC line[/OOC] So you're condoning racism now? Perfect. [OOC]No, quit taking things out of context. It was said in an OOC context, so it doesn't apply to Planet Bob[/OOC] How terribly immoral. Who are you to preach your morals to other people? I, for one, think that the single most important value to hold is freedom of speech. If someone wants to drop swearwords every sentence, that's their choice, and they should have the right to make that choice. This kind of arrogance infuriates me. Who died and made you Admin? People should not forget that Grub has long ago shown the patience of a saint. There was an incident when he went on IRC, and immediately, someone PMed him with, "Heil, Hitler!" It was brushed off then. After this knucklehead showed a couple of times that he had truly had white supremacist views, which was about ten days, Grub outright banned him with Assington's blessing. So, \m/ should consider themselves fortunate thay theyare not under siege right now. I don't see why speaking about "Hitler", whoever he is, would offend anyone. And if \m/ is white supremacist, that's understandable, their origins are on the white team. I don't see why you'd condone them being under siege for praising a man who doesn't exist on Planet Bob and having pride for their original color sphere. [OOC]Really guys, learn to separate Earth from Bob. It's pretty pathetic. I love Polar IC and OOC, always have, and this is frankly disappointing.[/OOC] Edited January 21, 2010 by MaGneT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minilla Island Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 [OOC]Yes, that is the IC/OOC line[/OOC][OOC]No, quit taking things out of context. It was said in an OOC context, so it doesn't apply to Planet Bob[/OOC] I don't see why speaking about "Hitler", whoever he is, would offend anyone. And if \m/ is white supremacist, that's understandable, their origins are on the white team. I don't see why you'd condone them being under siege for praising a man who doesn't exist on Planet Bob and having pride for their original color sphere. [OOC]Really guys, learn to separate Earth from Bob. It's pretty pathetic. I love Polar IC and OOC, always have, and this is frankly disappointing.[/OOC] MaGneT, I was trying to make a point of an incident that happened in Polar that actually went to trial. In fact, if I am not mistaken, you were a member at the time of the incident. I was trying to show Grub's patience in such areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penkala Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 I would quit while you're ahead, punishment for racial remarks (or general bad/offensive behavior) is not 'censorship' "You can't say what you want because it could offend me even though it's your channel. You may only say things that meet with my approval." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaGneT Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 MaGneT, I was trying to make a point of an incident that happened in Polar that actually went to trial. In fact, if I am not mistaken, you were a member at the time of the incident. I was trying to show Grub's patience in such areas. I was never a member of Polaris, though I was a leader of SOUL/SOLID throughout the entire existence of BLEU. And I understand what you were trying to show, and I agree, Grub is a very patient guy. Admirable, too. But the fact is, a lot of these things everyone claims to be upset about don't exist on Planet Bob, thus they shouldn't be of issue on Bob. Follow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minilla Island Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 I was never a member of Polaris, though I was a leader of SOUL/SOLID throughout the entire existence of BLEU. And I understand what you were trying to show, and I agree, Grub is a very patient guy. Admirable, too. But the fact is, a lot of these things everyone claims to be upset about don't exist on Planet Bob, thus they shouldn't be of issue on Bob. Follow? I follow you. I thought you were Polar at one time. Anyway, though he may not exist on Planet Bob, Hitler will bring out emotions form people OOC and IC. It should not be in reality, but you know and I know that OOC and IC gets blurred in these things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poobah Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Who are you to preach your morals to other people? I, for one, think that the single most important value to hold is freedom of speech. If someone wants to drop swearwords every sentence, that's their choice, and they should have the right to make that choice.This kind of arrogance infuriates me. Who died and made you Admin? So, in this statement you said that you support freedom of speech, while at the same time implying that he does not have the authority to state his views on morals, thereby saying that he should not have freedom of speech. Idiocy, pure idiocy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaGneT Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 So, in this statement you said that you support freedom of speech, while at the same time implying that he does not have the authority to state his views on morals, thereby saying that he should not have freedom of speech.Idiocy, pure idiocy. I meant enforcing them on others, which, reading back, he made no mention of. You're right, I'm wrong. My bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aineshane Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Good move on owning up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earogema Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Looks like war wasn't avoided ;_; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Suttler Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 I'm absolutely disgusted with the way this is turning out. MaGneT has a good point, with the morals of [OOC]the real world[/OOC] interfering with those of CN. Here, there are no skin colours, nor races, nor any real reference to things that happen within reality. Sure, alliances have themes and such, but that is really the extext of it. Now, attacking someone personally, [OOC]beyond the confines of this game[/OOC], is rather bad. However, I highly doubt that any comments made at anyone are truly malicious to the person themselves, as opposed to [OOC]their character that they portray. If this were to be a basis for conflict, this would be a very bad show for those utilizing this as a reason. It would truly show that we have all degraded into a bunch of schizophrenic, hypersensitive sheep, rather than individuals with our own morals and interpretations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauty Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Reverse is a gear in which life cant go in, nice try, \m/. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louisa Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Here, there are no skin colours, nor races, nor any real reference to things that happen within reality. I just ordered my eleventythird burkaninja brigade to drive my people to the polls for a referendum, and would you believe it -- the inhabitants of Ragequit Imminent unanimously declared themselves to be Capitalist Sikhs of Scandinavian ethnicity. So I am going to have to dismiss your statement that I quoted, but I hope that we can still be friends? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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