Big Z Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 (edited) And might I add from my own little nations perspective: the only worthy opponent I have fought were nations from TOP. My defensive slots were not occupied until TOP joined the fray. And I was pretty much annihilating my targets. I think most of those are still able to declare on me, I invite them to a 2nd round. Interesting. Do you want to fight another few rounds then instead of discussing terms for Echelon? You know, since you were annihilating us and gaining lots of tech and land. If that's what you prefer, please speak up on the matter. I don't want to be accused of being evil here for obliging to your request. Edited May 19, 2009 by Big Z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meyer Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 o/ Nemesis o/ GOD Good fighting AB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hizzy Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 I really wanted to avoid this thread but whatever... for what it's worth; Lady Gaga; I understand you're upset with Kait due to past grievances. It was these grievances which caused AB to feel so indebted to Echelon, and no doubt you guys did them a favour back then. However, I hope you can believe me when I say that Kaitlin was far more helpful than she needed to be in this situation. Whatever grudge Kait may had with AB had no bearing on this war. So, a big thank you to KaitlinK Echelon; You threw AB under the bus. You knew the war was lost and pulled them in knowing that they "owed you one". The only decent thing you did was not take peace terms before them, so... meh Aurora Borealis; I'm glad to see you guys get peace. I hope you can finally put the past behind you and move forward into a brighter future. If you need anything you know where to find me. The roguery !@#$ has to stop though. Not cool. GOD; I'm pretty torn here. I really feel the war was excessive, but then again I wasn't the one who was attacked, so I'm not going to pretend I know the feeling. That being said, I'm glad that there are not any crippling terms being enforced on them after such a devastating war. You could have hurt them more, thank you for not doing so. I'd like to also personally thank Van Hoo, Bob, BigZ, and Delta for their time. I know you guys put up with a lot, and it didn't go without notice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaitlinK Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 It's pretty amusing that Kait has all of GoD & Nemesis whipped to the point that they'll take on her old grudge via proxy. Are you satisfied now, KaitlinK? Do you need more blood from those that chose to leave your loving embrace to embark upon their own journey, or is your thirst quenched? Your delusions are amusing as hell to read my dear. You evidently have not found yourself on the wrong side of GOD before, for that your should count yourself lucky. The fact that terms (and extremely resonable ones at that) were given to an alliance that attacked GOD is nothing short of a miracle. While its so kind of you to concern yourself with my satisfaction your argument that AB is some victim of mine is laughable. Look towards your former familiy to see who has caused them far more harm than I am ever capable of. I want what I have always wanted AB to go their own way and leave MA be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Z Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 (edited) Echelon;The only decent thing you did was not take peace terms before them, so... meh That's not entirely accurate. Echelon approached us for terms before we offered peace terms to AB. However, we haven't even discussed nor finalized terms for Echelon yet. I'd like to also personally thank Van Hoo, Bob, BigZ, and Delta for their time. I know you guys put up with a lot, and it didn't go without notice. I know you were just looking out for your friends in AB and I was glad to chat with you about the topic. Edited May 19, 2009 by Big Z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Conrad Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 Echelon approached us for terms before we offered peace terms to AB. However, we haven't even discussed nor finalized terms for Echelon yet. This is most interesting considering the way many Echelon members are acting thus far in this thread. I heard insulting those who are in the position of granting you peace is not the best way to get good terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandwich Controversy Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 That's not entirely accurate. Echelon approached us for terms before we offered peace terms to AB. However, we haven't even discussed nor finalized terms for Echelon yet. Wow, NpO, NPO, and AB! Worst allies imaginable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x Tela x Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 That's not entirely accurate. Echelon approached us for terms before we offered peace terms to AB. However, we haven't even discussed nor finalized terms for Echelon yet. This may be true, but I know damn well that Echelon would have insisted on AB's withdrawal/surrender in some form before accepting any sort of peace. Being approached regarding peace terms does not equal leaving AB alone to die. That would have never happened. I know basically all of Echelon's government, most of them for well over a year. They would not have left the war without AB, so I'm not sure what this is about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King DrunkWino Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 That's not entirely accurate. Echelon approached us for terms before we offered peace terms to AB. However, we haven't even discussed nor finalized terms for Echelon yet. Though after such a display of wonderfully polite behavior that will change... /oh wait! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feanor Noldorin Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 Good to see this finally happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Anglia Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 That's not entirely accurate. Echelon approached us for terms before we offered peace terms to AB. However, we haven't even discussed nor finalized terms for Echelon yet.I know you were just looking out for your friends in AB and I was glad to chat with you about the topic. When we approached we actually were pretty adamant about AB getting peace before us or at the same time as I recall. Just saying as I was there for it and all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejayrazz Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 We canceled our bilat because of a disagreement with NPO as did the other OV signatories out of protest, . OV wasn't dissolved. NPO like it or lump it was an OV signatory at the time war was declared, we were obligated. As to why GOD became our target it was simply a case of "where are we needed?" Which was a bad political move in my opinion. Never was a fan of the whole "YOU ARE TO BLAME FOR THIS WAR" clauses within peace agreements, but good to see peace nonetheless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midkn1ght Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 Echelon never claimed to be on the side of Karma. You guys did. That's about all the beef I have with you. You are no better than anyone that ever was on the winning side of a war, a few minor exceptions not withstanding.And might I add from my own little nations perspective: the only worthy opponent I have fought were nations from TOP. My defensive slots were not occupied until TOP joined the fray. And I was pretty much annihilating my targets. I think most of those are still able to declare on me, I invite them to a 2nd round. Ah and here I was giving you and Allyourbase props for a good fight, and instead you choose to run off at the mouth. Of course you're going to be doing some more damage when you've got me by what was it? 40k NS, god knows how much infra, 7K tech and daily nukings of 400+ infra? Your NS took a swan dive long before TOP joined the fray. You've lost 56K NS during our wars, but only 20K while fighting TOP. Sure. We're not worthy. Way to go Echelon, AB's being classy as hell, and you're trolling your heads off. Disgusting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xiphosis Posted May 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 Don't worry Mid, I'm sure if we gave Echelon white peace they'd turn into little angels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred von Tirpitz Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 Don't worry Mid, I'm sure if we gave Echelon white peace they'd turn into little angels. Now Xiph, now you just trippin!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goose Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 It seems anything of controversy has been covered already. I am happy to see my allies in GOD, and friends in Nemisis have peace. I wish you well in your future AB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death666Angel Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 (edited) Interesting. Do you want to fight another few rounds then instead of discussing terms for Echelon? You know, since you were annihilating us and gaining lots of tech and land. If that's what you prefer, please speak up on the matter. I don't want to be accused of being evil here for obliging to your request. Like I said, I was speaking for myself. My alliance needs me so I cannot follow through with what I would like. -Edit- Edited May 19, 2009 by Death666Angel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balder Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 Fair terms to a well fought war. I was originally going to give a to all of my lovers in GOD and Nemesis when I opened this topic but I realized there'd be far too many names so you're all just going to have to accept this; GOD Nemesis o/ AB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draov Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 I dont remember posting here. If i have o well o/ Nemesis o/ GOD (great allies) good fight AB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shahenshah Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 Which was a bad political move in my opinion.Never was a fan of the whole "YOU ARE TO BLAME FOR THIS WAR" clauses within peace agreements, but good to see peace nonetheless. Politically, either of the moves were not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Anglia Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 Politically, either of the moves were not good.QFT. Either option was pretty radioactive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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