Jyrinx Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 (edited) 4) MCXA henceforth suspends all military treaties (treaties with optional or mandatory defense and/or aggression clauses). Well, that's the first time an alliance has been forcefully remove from the Continuum *updates wiki* Edited May 7, 2009 by Jyrinx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxia Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 sweet O> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doitzel Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 everyone that was in government when we sided with NPO is now running TSO. after ejecting them, we got dragged into this because of long-standing treaties. but i guess you watched the documentary already. That's a load of crap incidentally. Why did you actively chase out people who wanted to break away from One Vision just weeks before the war? I am glad you got peace and have had a change of heart, but you're not going to re-write history on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akama Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Congratulations on peace MCXA. Sucky terms though. Is this sarcasm? Sorry, I'm not very good at detecting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauty Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Terms are little bit harash, but will be OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhawk Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 These terms are the best I've seen. MCXA still stays independent. Interesting. By independent you mean, 1) Suspended treaties 2) Protectorate 3) Can't accept members that surrendered 4) Full mil decom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crymson Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Glad to see this non-white peace stuff finally I don't quite understand this comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tygaland Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Interesting.By independent you mean, 1) Suspended treaties 2) Protectorate 3) Can't accept members that surrendered 4) Full mil decom Nothing you'd have an issue with though, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy2e Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 You had plenty of time to cancel the treaties but chose not to.Also, pleased to see you beat Alterego to the "u r just as bad as us" meme. If you would look back to before the war when we canceled several treaties it was actually only phase one in a total treaty evaluation. So, we wrre goign through the process FYI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tygaland Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 If you would look back to before the war when we canceled several treaties it was actually only phase one in a total treaty evaluation. So, we wrre goign through the process FYI. He who hesitates... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shahenshah Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 (edited) And another one does, and another one does...Thank you to VE, AZTEC, and ARES for keeping us in their minds. We are glad to be making such great strides toward freedom. Very nice job on fair and reasonable terms, as well. Now Come on, how can they forget you, you added so much entertainment to the drama . Reasonable Reps VE, much improvement from last reps you took from MK? was it. Edited May 7, 2009 by shahenshah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopherbashi Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 term length is problematic imo. These terms should be up in 2 days. 200 x 50 = 10,000 at which point they're free to do whatever they please including re engagement. Poorly thought out there, but the rest is reasonable to harsh. We will not be re-entering the current conflict, even should it still be active when these terms are complete. I doubt we'll have fulfilled the terms within 2 days. Well, that's the first time an alliance has been forcefully remove from the Continuum *updates wiki* My current understanding is that the MCXA is still part of the Continuum, One Vision, etc., however our defensive (and aggressive) options and obligations are void until the completion of these terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseballer790 Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 inb4voxtrolls Thank you, VE and friends, you also fought honorably, and thanks for the gracious terms. o/ MCXA o/ VE o/ GLoF o/ AZTEC o/ Peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octovanyo Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 (edited) If you would look back to before the war when we canceled several treaties it was actually only phase one in a total treaty evaluation. So, we wrre goign through the process FYI. yeah.... right.... funnily enough all the treaties you did cancel are on the "karma" side of the war Edited May 7, 2009 by octovanyo4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naamah Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 o/ peace!!! congrats folks Nice to see FAN and Vox are free too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doitzel Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 (edited) If you would look back to before the war when we canceled several treaties it was actually only phase one in a total treaty evaluation. So, we wrre goign through the process FYI. Maybe the process would've moved faster if you didn't persecute a huge swath of your membership with witchhunts for suggesting *certain* treaties be broken canceled. edit: wording Edited May 7, 2009 by Doitzel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 I didn't know this was about BLEU or redemption.Also, betrayal? Not even close. It was a HUGE betrayal of BLEU in favor of membership in One Vision. On topic, congrats for peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelchael Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 thanks for fighting MCXA. Our pleasure. Seriously, though, it was our pleasure. This has been a fun war, and minus a few incidents I think we all managed to keep things in perspective and have a good time with it. a big o/ to MCXA, my AZTEC brethren, VE, Karma, and everybody who's made this all much more enjoyable than our last war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Janova Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Good to see you get peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jyrinx Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 (edited) We will not be re-entering the current conflict, even should it still be active when these terms are complete. I doubt we'll have fulfilled the terms within 2 days. My current understanding is that the MCXA is still part of the Continuum, One Vision, etc., however our defensive (and aggressive) options and obligations are void until the completion of these terms. "MCXA henceforth suspends all military treaties (treaties with optional or mandatory defense and/or aggression clauses)." I guess the meaning of the word "suspends" needs clarification. Can anybody enforcing these terms clarify this? Edited May 7, 2009 by Jyrinx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooseWizard Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Glad to see peace is upon us. o/ AZTEC o/ GLOF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khalai Protoss Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Good fight guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Our pleasure.Seriously, though, it was our pleasure. This has been a fun war, and minus a few incidents I think we all managed to keep things in perspective and have a good time with it. a big o/ to MCXA, my AZTEC brethren, VE, Karma, and everybody who's made this all much more enjoyable than our last war. You knew I meant thanks to MCXA for fighting rather than cutting and running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orkules Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 i thought karma's kick was to stop the senseless terms of mass payments of tech, etc. good to see a reversal of this policy, especially since it goes right back to embracing what you're fighting against. We never said we didn't agree with terms in general. We don't agree with senseless and insane terms (see things like the terms of the CnG alliances during the No CB war or Legion and GATO's terms of surrender). Tech payments that are reasonable are one thing. These terms are reasonable and easily completely. I can support them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shahenshah Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 (edited) 10,000 tech hardly repairs their betrayal of BLEU. Majority of people that were involved in that decision for MCXA fight alongside Karma If I am not mistaken? Apologies if I am. What? In my opinion Karma represents people reaping what they've sown over the past years. I can say that MK, STA, NV and few others were given harsh terms, but really not one of the primary alliances involved here, So yes your statement covers a significant portion of Karma alliances, but one cant make a blanket statement for such a diverse group of people. Edited May 7, 2009 by shahenshah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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