Subcomandante VL Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 As a former member of the original /b/ I can objectively say it was the worst alliance ever to have existed. All of the neutrals combined constitute a close second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Margrave Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 No one gonna throw \m/ into the mix here? The majority of you aren't even old enough to remember \m/, let alone have enough experience working with them/against them/observe them to make an educated commentary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 No one gonna throw \m/ into the mix here? I think I did earlier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeNoSurrender Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 Labeling everything we dislike as nazism is a freedom our grandparents earnt for us with they blood, sweat and tears. I will not surrender that gift, but hold on it with all my respect and pride. Their sacrifice will not be forgotten. And they were able to do all that because of the freedom their forefathers earned for them by abducting and enslaving africans, killing native americans and robbing them of their land and everything they had. That's a fact all you 'murrican youngins usually forget to put on your resume when acting all proud of the stuff your ancestors accomplished. Funny thing is that pride and honor seem to be hereditary for you guys while guilt and shame only get passed down outside of your borders. Ignorance sure is bliss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 And they were able to do all that because of the freedom their forefathers earned for them by abducting and enslaving africans, killing native americans and robbing them of their land and everything they had. That's a fact all you 'murrican youngins usually forget to put on your resume when acting all proud of the stuff your ancestors accomplished. Funny thing is that pride and honor seem to be hereditary for you guys while guilt and shame only get passed down outside of your borders. Ignorance sure is bliss. Not to mention illegally overthrowing the Hawaiian Kingdom and stealing our land. I'm supposed to hate Hitler for the stuff America did first? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 Shut up, morons, that's completely irrelevant to this game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arentak Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 GGA always seemed awful.. GATO had its bad moments, but I think those are behind them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeNoSurrender Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 (edited) Shut up, morons, that's completely irrelevant to this game. Has there ever been an official nazi alliance on BOB that reanacted all the awfull crimes their RL counterparts did? If not why did you decide to speak up now, there have been countless nazi references flooting around the OWF and you never felt the need to point out the irrelevance to the game?! Or is it that you're just a hypocrite whose feelers have been hurt by the truth? Either way, your post history should be reason enough never to call others morons because your IQ clearly resides well below room temperature and I'm talking about Celsius not Fahrenheit. Edit: spelling Edited January 15, 2015 by MeNoSurrender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 To be fair there was the Nazi Stand or Die alliance, which Polaris defeated some time before crushing the Unjust Path itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxasm Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 Has there ever been an official nazi alliance on BOB that reanacted all the awfull crimes their RL counterparts did? If not why did you decide to speak up now, there have been countless nazi references flooting around the OWF and you never felt the need to point out the irrelevance to the game?! Or is it that you're just a hypocrite whose feelers have been hurt by the truth? Either way, your post history should be reason enough never to call others morons because your IQ clearly resides well below room temperature and I'm talking about Celsius not Fahrenheit. Edit: spelling I thought it was well known that troll brains work best below room temperature? One got stuck in some Ankh-Morpork freezer once, and he pretty much derived all of physics and mathematics from first principles. If you're going to go around accusing people of being morons, at least make sense yourself when doing so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeNoSurrender Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 I thought it was well known that troll brains work best below room temperature? One got stuck in some Ankh-Morpork freezer once, and he pretty much derived all of physics and mathematics from first principles. If you're going to go around accusing people of being morons, at least make sense yourself when doing so. Look at my postcount, Ima newb... newbs aren't supposed to make sense. Call me out on that one again after a couple thousand more posts., kthxbai. btw worst AA's: all I've ever been a member of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeNoSurrender Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 But just for the fun of it... I said his IQ is well below room temperature as in low double digits ( measuring in Celsius that would place him in the range of 10° - 15° ) so even if his troll brain worked at peak efficiency, due to the low temperatures, he'd still be far off the status of a certified retard ( >70 [OOC] guess which country actually had TWO presidents with IQ's not too far off that mark [OOC] ). So yeah, it kinda does make sense and I didn't even violate my obligations as a noob by delivering this classical no u. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 You just used OOC tags in an OOC forum.I rest my case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfEmpty Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 MeNo, you forgot Dresden and the nukes, Ima tell you a sekret, we revel in it, keep that in mind. Lol 88aters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingzog Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 This discussion managed to get both weird and confusing in just a few posts. Kudos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dochartaigh Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 And they were able to do all that because of the freedom their forefathers earned for them by abducting and enslaving africans, killing native americans and robbing them of their land and everything they had. That's a fact all you 'murrican youngins usually forget to put on your resume when acting all proud of the stuff your ancestors accomplished. Funny thing is that pride and honor seem to be hereditary for you guys while guilt and shame only get passed down outside of your borders. Ignorance sure is bliss. If you really wish to go there, two of my great-grandparents were both native american (one from each side of the family), one of my great-grandparents had come over from Ireland in the 1900s, the other from Europe in the 1910s. Both of my grandfathers fought in WWII for America (both in Europe). Both sides of my family have a proud tradition of military service. So, no, I don't hold any of the guilt or shame personally, just that I hold the shame that America had slavery and robbed/slaughtered the native Americans in the Manifest Destiny. And I am sure a fair amount of people in America have similar stories to mine. But yes you are correct, Ignorance sure is bliss but you know from first-hand experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyt2k Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 This discussion managed to get both weird and confusing in just a few posts. Kudos. And then turned into Hawaii and Nazi's because, well, Tywin does enjoy a good derail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfox101 Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 Worst alliances 1. IC 2. CIA 3. JRCA 4. >_< 5. \m/ The life cycle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeNoSurrender Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 If you really wish to go there, two of my great-grandparents were both native american (one from each side of the family), one of my great-grandparents had come over from Ireland in the 1900s, the other from Europe in the 1910s. Both of my grandfathers fought in WWII for America (both in Europe). Both sides of my family have a proud tradition of military service. So, no, I don't hold any of the guilt or shame personally, just that I hold the shame that America had slavery and robbed/slaughtered the native Americans in the Manifest Destiny. And I am sure a fair amount of people in America have similar stories to mine. But yes you are correct, Ignorance sure is bliss but you know from first-hand experience. And all that actually shows that you're not one of those people I discribed in my post. The emphasis was on idiots who keep running around puffing their chests because of things they had no part in. Being related to someone who did something noteworthy ( no matter if it was good or bad ) doesn't make you directly responsible for the deed itself. All I'm saying is that if you're one of those people who take extreme pride in what your ancestors did you should simply consider both sides of the coin. You can't just take the good and use that to go around acting all high and mighty while neglecting the bad. I, for one, wouldn't say I'm proud to be German because I didn't do anything to become German. I'm not proud of the good things Germany brought to the table and I 'm not ashamed to be German or feel personal guilt for what happened during the world wars either because I ( nor any of my family members I know of ) had anything to do with them personally. I'm not saying we should just leave what ever happened in the past behind us either, all those atrocities need to be remembered in order for them never to happen again but there is no need to keep pointing fingers at people who weren't directly involved. People should be valued by their own deeds and accomplishments regardless of gender, origin, believes or what ever is used to prejudge them BUT if you feel the need to adorn yourself with borrowed plumes you should be ready to take the blame for the bad stuff as well imo. Back to the topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walshington Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 it is totally subjective to paint any alliance as "worst" or one of the 5 worst even. Basing it totally objectively on how alliances function within the game itself....here is my list.... 1) MHA - Never has any alliance done so little with so much. 2) Hooligans - It is not even that they were so terrible, it is that they thought they were more important than they were and played like they had earned a big fish in a big pond title. Also, they literally consciously made a decision to make Green Muffins gov. 3) DRAGON - What a trainwreck they were. 4) The 2nd incarnation of FoB. Let that which is dead, remain dead. 5) Thriller - Lots of hubub and bravado till they found out Argent was coming for them. Fake courage from day 1. Cannot argue this in the Letub days, and the Green Muffins thing was a second chance that should not have been given. But bottom 5 of all time? Not surprising, but a fairly rotten thing to say about your little Puerto Rican allies who threw themselves into the fire every time you asked them to. CIearly Prather's loyalty was misplaced, and was instrumental in my decision not to be a pawn again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 I mean, he isn't wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keelah Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 Back on topic, stop derailing about Nazi and Hawaii. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonator21 Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 GGA always seemed awful.. GATO had its bad moments, but I think those are behind them. Wait, really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 I feel like any alliance that elects maxfiles into a gov position, and especially one where he has to talk to people, has dark days ahead of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walshington Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 I mean, he isn't wrong. Well, of course it is opinion based, so he can't be. I would submit, however, that the last pathetic days of a waning alliance does not qualify for "top 5 worst alliances ever', particularly when his opening was "it's not that they were terrible, but..." Just seemed an odd statement from a former ally who was backed by Hooligans every time they beckoned. Not a surprising statement, however. I'm sure other C&G notables would agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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