Declaration of War

[CubaQuerida]

goodluck finding a target

I am nothing if not exceedingly patient. Valhalla said something eerily similar.

[The Zigur]

/me submits application to join Kaskus.

 

Now we see the puppeteer.

[Lord Hitchcock]

If I recall a 1x raid on evil uncle Tom " 750k declaring in a 150k nation"... When you are Cuba, sitting on a 30 billion wc, you can pick any target you want and still sit as numero uno

[abbasmehdi]

I am nothing if not exceedingly patient. Valhalla said something eerily similar.

 

patience is the only virtue we got 

 

 

 

also when you are cuba you can sell everything you have and still be bigger than 95% of our AA. 

[Dochartaigh]

Bawwwww.  

 

 

Bawwww 

 

 

Bawwwww... Bawwwww... Black Sheep? Hey death from above 82, I think Steve is calling for ya mate!!!

Edited September 27, 2014 by Dochartaigh

[Groucho Marx]

 

 

Yeah it's a legitimate strategy, it's been used as such and it will probably continue to be used as such.  That said, I'm not so sure about this:

 

 

Mostly because 25% of MI6 nations above 30k NS are in PM right now (14/56); in fact ~36% of MI6 nations that are in PM are above 30k NS (14/39).  Sure that means most of their PM nations are firmly in the lower tiers, but it's not even close to exclusively their lower tier nations.  I mean I frankly don't care that much, but I just wanted to point this out because the rhetoric that it's about protecting lower tier nations against Kaskus's wonder heavy monsters down there isn't entirely accurate.

 

 

Let's completely disregard the possibility of individuals who are otherwise too busy to actively carry their weight in a war and/or those who simply are not prepared and thus they have chosen to sit out for the duration of the war in order to spare their alliance an unnecessary resource drain. 

Edited September 27, 2014 by Emperor Marx

[iamthey]

Bawwwww.  Maybe you should fight back and not run and hide.
 
 
Bawwww Part 2.  Maybe you should use some of your nations to fight instead of rubbing dove beaks on each other.

Once Unknownsmurf admits to wrongdoing the posters you quote will be satisfied.

 

Yeah it's a legitimate strategy, it's been used as such and it will probably continue to be used as such.  That said, I'm not so sure about this:
 
 
Mostly because 25% of MI6 nations above 30k NS are in PM right now (14/56); in fact ~36% of MI6 nations that are in PM are above 30k NS (14/39).  Sure that means most of their PM nations are firmly in the lower tiers, but it's not even close to exclusively their lower tier nations.  I mean I frankly don't care that much, but I just wanted to point this out because the rhetoric that it's about protecting lower tier nations against Kaskus's wonder heavy monsters down there isn't entirely accurate.

Using PM in the upper tier under these circumstances makes a lot of sense. Given the stream of ghosts that have entered to support kaskus, Mi6 can't be certain what additional resources kaskus has at its disposal. Keeping a reserve on hand to perform staggers, and forcing kaskus to focus its efforts on nations already engaged reduces their vulnerability to the early war underdog effect (kaskus has more targets to spread nuclear strikes over while mi6 has fewer). Once kaskus expends their nukes and the ghosts stop we'll probably see nations move out of Pm.

Really it's just sad to see the same silly argument again and again. People who do so are either completely insincere, or far too dense to be taken seriously. Edited September 27, 2014 by iamthey

[berbers]

Once Unknownsmurf admits to wrongdoing the posters you quote will be satisfied.

 

Using PM in the upper tier under these circumstances makes a lot of sense. Given the stream of ghosts that have entered to support kaskus, Mi6 can't be certain what additional resources kaskus has at its disposal. Keeping a reserve on hand to perform staggers, and forcing kaskus to focus its efforts on nations already engaged reduces their vulnerability to the early war underdog effect (kaskus has more targets to spread nuclear strikes over while mi6 has fewer). Once kaskus expends their nukes and the ghosts stop we'll probably see nations move out of Pm.

Really it's just sad to see the same silly argument again and again. People who do so are either completely insincere, or far too dense to be taken seriously.

But by not counter declaring didnt they give control to kaskus, I mean Kaskus can just slip into PM since they arent staggered, re-arm and hit again.

I thought the general rule of thumb was to try and keep your opponent AA staggered so you control that aspect of the game.

If Mi6 hadnt mass PM'd, I believe this would have been an easier fight for them tbh. I dont think they are cowards, I think they are trying a different approach, I just dont agree its the optimal solution.

[Gitami]

Dulra would kick Cubas ass.

 

Now for a statement from your president:

War is upon us all. Terriblee tragedy, war among brothers and sisters. We all must get through this terrible thing. Now, I have a plan. Kaskus and MI6 must peace. Then we go back to hugging pixels.

Your lovely Prez,

Me

[Chimaera]

It would be very difficult to find a Kaskus nation that ISN'T staggered and hasn't been attacked by multiple MI6ers larger than him, but sure, let's keep the narrative of 'MI6 isn't fighting back at all omgwtfzorz' going, I like it.

 

The fact that the damage ratios are so close when each Kaskus nation can nuke 4 or 5 MI6ers a day and the opposite isn't possible is a testament to our military.  When they're out of nukes, this will go from a conflict to a slaughter.

 

Oh, and the vast majority of our upper tier PMs are actually people who are otherwise occupied at the moment.  The lower tier, of course we PM'd, I have no interest in nuking a bunch of people into oblivion just so they can obliterate our tech farms.  What sort of idiots are you?

Edited September 27, 2014 by Chimaera

[Garion]

Does anyone who matters still care about peace mode percentages?

I hoped people had finally realized that screaming and crying about people in PM will NOT result in them leaving the aforementioned condition.

[Rush Sykes]

It would be very difficult to find a Kaskus nation that ISN'T staggered and hasn't been attacked by multiple MI6ers larger than him, but sure, let's keep the narrative of 'MI6 isn't fighting back at all omgwtfzorz' going, I like it.

 

The fact that the damage ratios are so close when each Kaskus nation can nuke 4 or 5 MI6ers a day and the opposite isn't possible is a testament to our military.  When they're out of nukes, this will go from a conflict to a slaughter.

 

Oh, and the vast majority of our upper tier PMs are actually people who are otherwise occupied at the moment.  The lower tier, of course we PM'd, I have no interest in nuking a bunch of people into oblivion just so they can obliterate our tech farms.  What sort of idiots are you?

 

If by very difficult, you mean putting the list of Kaskus nations in ascending order by seniority and clicking the 1st 100K+ nation (8 days seniority), then yes, it was indeed difficult.

 

http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=423414

 

Or this one.

 

http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=260793

 

Or this one.

 

http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=301708

 

Or this one. 

 

http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=508339

 

Or this one.

 

http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=519890

 

Or this one.

 

http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=534852

 

Or this one.

 

http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=519861

 

Or this one.

 

http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=549745

 

Or this one.

 

http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=310634

 

Or this one.

 

http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=146315

 

Or this one.

 

http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=238416

 

Or this one.

 

http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=92144

 

Or this one.

 

http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=322828

 

Or this one.

 

http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=434808

 

Or this one.

 

http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=407773

 

So... of the 27 nations that were in Kaskus on Declaration Day, 15 are not staggered. So what you mean by "It would be very difficult to find" is... well, I have no idea what you mean. This word difficult... I do not think it means what you think it means.

[Chimaera]

Nearly all of those are in a tier we're not bothering to engage, for one, and for two, many of them staggered themselves.  I'm not sure you know what the word 'staggered' means in your old age, Rush.  If Kaskus nations have wars that started on the 22nd, 23rd, and 24th, I'm pretty content with their level of staggering - and we're only halfway into the first round.

 

I understand in your haste to bash anything I post you may have lost track of some facts, but that's okay.

[Rush Sykes]

Nearly all of those are in a tier we're not bothering to engage, for one, and for two, many of them staggered themselves.  I'm not sure you know what the word 'staggered' means in your old age, Rush.  If Kaskus nations have wars that started on the 22nd, 23rd, and 24th, I'm pretty content with their level of staggering - and we're only halfway into the first round.

 

I understand in your haste to bash anything I post you may have lost track of some facts, but that's okay.

 

Your words, my friend, said nothing about tiers. Let me get you the quote. 

 

It would be very difficult to find a Kaskus nation that ISN'T staggered and hasn't been attacked by multiple MI6ers larger than him, but sure, let's keep the narrative of 'MI6 isn't fighting back at all omgwtfzorz' going, I like it.

 

Lets give you the "they staggered themselves" thing. Still 8 of 27 Kaskus nations have 0 defending wars. Do you think roughly a 1 in 3 chance of throwing a dart at a board of Kaskus nations and finding a non-staggered , non "hit by a much larger nation" is "difficult?".

 

Or perhaps the word "and" in your quote was poorly placed?

[Chimaera]

 

Your words, my friend, said nothing about tiers. Let me get you the quote. 

 

It would be very difficult to find a Kaskus nation that ISN'T staggered and hasn't been attacked by multiple MI6ers larger than him, but sure, let's keep the narrative of 'MI6 isn't fighting back at all omgwtfzorz' going, I like it.

 

Lets give you the "they staggered themselves" thing. Still 8 of 27 Kaskus nations have 0 defending wars. Do you think roughly a 1 in 3 chance of throwing a dart at a board of Kaskus nations and finding a non-staggered , non "hit by a much larger nation" is "difficult?".

 

Or perhaps the word "and" in your quote was poorly placed?

 

Perhaps it was.  There are multiple Kaskus nations that we haven't struck yet, whether it be due to their current wars giving us matchups we're fine with, timing, etc.  Either way, nearly every Kaskus nation of any importance whatsoever is engaged with multiple MI6ers.

[FredDerf]

Lets give you the "they staggered themselves" thing. Still 8 of 27 Kaskus nations have 0 defending wars.

You are including Kaskus nations that are in peace mode.

 

For example:

Wisconsin Hardcore is a peaceful nation. War is not an option since 9/19/2014.

 

Several Kaskus members jumped into hippy mode when the war was imminent. They had a few days of forewarning that MI6 did not.

Edited September 27, 2014 by FredDerf

[Rush Sykes]

You are including Kaskus nations that are in peace mode.

 

For example:

Wisconsin Hardcore is a peaceful nation. War is not an option since 9/19/2014.

 

Several Kaskus members jumped into hippy mode when the war was imminent. They had a few days of forewarning that MI6 did not.

 

No, I am not. You have 1 point though, the number is 6, not 8. I used yesterdays info, which I am smarter than.  Bit math is not your friend, my friend. If I counted PM nations, there would be 11 of 27 nations with 0 wars. Then there is that troubling bit about "not staggered AND hit by much larger nations." On this point, my dart board gets much, much, larger. 

 

Regardless, I could care less how you all handle this war. Why? I am in a no-lose situation. 

 

Either you peace Kaskus quickly and look weak (which is what you will probably do, because you want to protect your tech farms, and they cant send much tech if they are locked in PM.) Or you call allies to  help (which is what you SHOULD do.) Oh but the fun I will have when you call allies to help. You see, I was an ally of GOONS for a long time. They fought much smaller alliances many many times. They often used allies for help in vulnerable tiers (which is both smart and nothing wrong with it.) But oh those pesky MI6 members. Some of them, were .... shall we say... quite opinionated on GOONS using allies to kill alliances 1/8 or less GOONS size. And the last 24 hours, perusing those threads, preparing the montage post I can make when you call in allies, using some direct quotes from some prominent high ranking Mi6 guys now, about how pathetic GOONS were back then for "needing help"... nope, I cannot lose either way.

[Unknown Smurf]

 

Perhaps it was.  There are multiple Kaskus nations that we haven't struck yet, whether it be due to their current wars giving us matchups we're fine with, timing, etc.  Either way, nearly every Kaskus nation of any importance whatsoever is engaged with multiple MI6ers.

 

Ouch. 

[Thorgrum]

 

No, I am not. You have 1 point though, the number is 6, not 8. I used yesterdays info, which I am smarter than.  Bit math is not your friend, my friend. If I counted PM nations, there would be 11 of 27 nations with 0 wars. Then there is that troubling bit about "not staggered AND hit by much larger nations." On this point, my dart board gets much, much, larger. 

 

Regardless, I could care less how you all handle this war. Why? I am in a no-lose situation. 

 

Either you peace Kaskus quickly and look weak (which is what you will probably do, because you want to protect your tech farms, and they cant send much tech if they are locked in PM.) Or you call allies to  help (which is what you SHOULD do.) Oh but the fun I will have when you call allies to help. You see, I was an ally of GOONS for a long time. They fought much smaller alliances many many times. They often used allies for help in vulnerable tiers (which is both smart and nothing wrong with it.) But oh those pesky MI6 members. Some of them, were .... shall we say... quite opinionated on GOONS using allies to kill alliances 1/8 or less GOONS size. And the last 24 hours, perusing those threads, preparing the montage post I can make when you call in allies, using some direct quotes from some prominent high ranking Mi6 guys now, about how pathetic GOONS were back then for "needing help"... nope, I cannot lose either way.

 

I underlined the relevant parts, its inconsistent with your posts. I understand that everyone has different degree's of intellect but id urge you not to contradict yourself within the same post. Being a complete !@#$@#$ moron and not have a grasp on your own prose is very unbecoming. However, maybe you convinced yourself? Watching an idiot try and sound intelligent in a contradictory post is amusing for a minute or two. Thanks for that, made coming back to read the thread somewhat amusing.

 

So when will Kaskus give the green light for its allies to come in? We know several of them are infra huggers, they wont come in until its very safe anyway, still we have the potential for a global war, wouldn't it be cool to get it out of the way early this year instead of the predictable nonsense we go through normally thanksgiving - Christmas? Thanks in advance.

Edited September 27, 2014 by Thorgrum

[Rush Sykes]

 

I underlined the relevant parts, its inconsistent with your posts. I understand that everyone has different degree's of intellect but id urge you not to contradict yourself within the same post. Being a complete !@#$@#$ moron and not have a grasp on your own prose is very unbecoming. However, maybe you convinced yourself? Watching an idiot try and sound intelligent in a contradictory post is amusing for a minute or two. Thanks for that, made coming back to read the thread somewhat amusing.

 

So when will Kaskus give the green light for its allies to come in? We know several of them are infra huggers, they wont come in until its very safe anyway, still we have the potential for a global war, wouldn't it be cool to get it out of the way early this year instead of the predictable nonsense we go through normally thanksgiving - Christmas? Thanks in advance.

 

While I realize that you think you are clever, let me explain to you why you are not. You see, when I say I could care less how they handle the war,it is that no matter how they handle it, I will have my fun. I know in that small little cerebellum of yours, you think that I said in that sentence "I do not care what happens on planet Bob anywhere." Even though I said nothing of the type. In fact, the 2nd paragraph goes in near perfect lock step with WHY I do not care how they handle the war. Either way I get my fun.  You should refrain from extrapolating meaning when you are so poorly equipped with the proper tools to understand. However, since I am a magnanimous old coot , let me educate you.

 

I DO care about the war and the going's on around the war. Nowhere did I say otherwise. I only said I do not care HOW they handle it. I win either way. The retirement home is a comfortable place.

[killjoy123]

 

Ouch. 

Are you in at war with 4 of us? And you staggered yourself for us too. Thanks bai.

[Unknown Smurf]

Regarding ghosts, this is all I have spoken to MI6 about the situation:

 

At no point will you see us agree to not have ghosts... we just agree that (should MI6 choose to, which they did) ghosts will be handled differently when peace talks commence.

 

Session Start: Tue Sep 23 01:06:13 2014

Session Ident: Chimaera

[01:06] <UnknownSmurf> Yo

[01:06] <Chimaera> Yeah

[01:06] <UnknownSmurf> Ghosts from your allies will have to find seperate peace with NEW if ghosts from ours also have to deal with that. 

[01:07] <Chimaera> We have no ghosts from our allies.

[01:07] <Chimaera> Nor are we going to bother with them

[01:07] <UnknownSmurf> Ok. 

[01:07] <Chimaera> Oh, and with NEW?

[01:08] <UnknownSmurf> If there is no ghosts on either side I see no issue

[01:08] <Chimaera> There's already one on yours.

[01:08] <UnknownSmurf> Can we make an exception for the guy that just joined us? I imagine he didn't know

[01:08] <UnknownSmurf> If he chooses to leave I mean

[01:08] <UnknownSmurf> Let him white peace out as he was unaware

[01:08] <Chimaera> He joined 2 minutes before update and declared 2 wars as soon as he got on the AA.

[01:08] <Chimaera> Don't give me that horse!@#$, Smurf.

[01:08] <UnknownSmurf> ? I mean he was aware there was a war

[01:09] <UnknownSmurf> I dont think he was aware that ghosts would be treatied differently

[01:09] <UnknownSmurf> theres always ghosts in wars

[01:09] <Chimaera> Standard operating procedure in wars.

[01:10] <UnknownSmurf> mm ok. Just trying to have a fun one here -- insert obligatory Y SO SERIOUS

[01:10] <Chimaera> Don't start a !@#$%^&* war with my alliance without ever so much as attempting to contact an executive-level leader of my alliance and then ask me why I'm taking it seriously.

[01:11] <UnknownSmurf> I did make multiple attempts

[01:11] <Chimaera> This isn't NSO, Smurf, you've bitten off a helluva lot more than you can chew this time.

[01:11] <UnknownSmurf> Our embassy is a clear attempt

[01:11] <UnknownSmurf> it seems as though you've removed my access to it 

[01:11] <UnknownSmurf> or deleted it outright though

[01:11] <Chimaera> We move embassies to an inactive area during wartime

[01:12] <Chimaera> To be frank, I wasn't even aware this situation *existed* until someone texted me we were at war.

[01:12] <UnknownSmurf> Oh ok. I mean considering we'd have to talk peace at some point I hope you reinstate it when you feel comfortable doing so. 

[01:12] <UnknownSmurf> I've already screenshotted every post there

[01:13] <UnknownSmurf> Anyways Chim, I've explained my position to many of your allies and I don't think I'm being completely unreasonable here, though I will admit I may be the victim of bad communication.

[01:14] <UnknownSmurf> I still think MI6 isn't blameless for telling GOONS that they spoke to us when you only spoke to DoomSquad who isn't even allied to us

[01:14] <Chimaera> Frankly, the only thing I know is that Abbas talked to *someone* in GOONS, but I haven't seen the logs of that conversation.

[01:14] <Chimaera> So I have no idea what he said or didn't say.

[01:14] <UnknownSmurf> I believe it was Stagger_Lee

[01:15] <Chimaera> All Stag ever said was that it was none of our business either way and that we'd have GOONS' back if they got in !@#$.

[01:15] <Chimaera> We give absolutely zero $%&@s about you or Methrage.

[01:15] <Chimaera> We're a complete !@#$@#$ third party in all this, lol

[01:15] <UnknownSmurf> =/ Did you read the logs between KenM and I?

[01:15] <Chimaera> I read the forum PM Milton sent Stag and I about the start of the situation like 2 weeks ago and thought 'wow this is bloody retarded I'll just ignore it'

[01:16] <Chimaera> I have *no idea* who KenM talked to, because I've not seen him for weeks and our primary GOONS contact is Milton

[01:17] <Chimaera> This is clearly a breakdown in comms *somewhere*, but I still think it's bloody idiotic that MI6 was involved in the first place.

[01:17] <UnknownSmurf> Well KenM said Milton talked to you guys. He just said that Milton told him that MI6 told Milton that Kaskus wouldn't defend LN. 

[01:17] <UnknownSmurf> Which I agree is !@#$@#$ stupid

[01:17] <UnknownSmurf> Why not just come straight to us?

[01:17] <Chimaera> idk why you and GOONS never just had a damn conversation

[01:17] <Chimaera> And how the hell would MI6 possibly know Kaskus would or wouldn't defend LN

[01:17] <Chimaera> Who the $%&@ is LN

[01:17] <UnknownSmurf> .. we did. 

[01:17] <UnknownSmurf> GOONS and us I Mean

[01:17] <Chimaera> Why am I involved in a war over micros that I didn't even know exist?

[01:19] <Chimaera> Seriously, Methrage doesn't qualify as an alliance.

[01:19] <Chimaera> He qualifies as a mentally handicapped individual.

[01:21] <UnknownSmurf> Methrage hasn't posted in years until GOONS hit him

[01:21] <Chimaera> You know

[01:21] <UnknownSmurf> hes even been quiet the last month or so after being hit

[01:21] <Chimaera> Seems to me that Stagger answered your question pretty well in that thread.

[01:22] * UnknownSmurf goes to look

[01:22] <UnknownSmurf> in the DOW?

[01:22] <Chimaera> 'Seems to me that someone didn't know what they were talking about, and why would MI6 want to instigate something with an alliance known to buck conventions', essentially.

[01:22] <Chimaera> No, your embassy.

[01:23] <UnknownSmurf> oh

[01:23] <UnknownSmurf> hold on let me share the converation between deathadder and I just now

[01:23] <UnknownSmurf> I think it'll get you up to speed from my perspective atleast

[01:24] <Chimaera> That's where your argument breaks down, Smurf.  There's no motive.  What the hell would MI6 possibly want from a war between you and GOONS and...some other micros I don't know exist?

[01:24] <Chimaera> We may have screwed up a line of communication.  That happens, especially when one M (me) has been massively inactive due to RL commitments the past 3 weeks.

[01:24] <Chimaera> But you quite literally started a war without ever sending Stag or I a query.

[01:26] <UnknownSmurf> A war with us puts Umb/Aztec on your side on a greater war with doomsphere

[01:26] <UnknownSmurf> or so people believe

[01:26] <UnknownSmurf> http://pastebin.com/McZMrXpC

[01:26] <UnknownSmurf> I think its utter !@#$%^&* but whatever

[01:26] <Chimaera> How the hell would that work?  A war where you're the defended would inevitably chain AZTEC to your side.

[01:27] <Chimaera> Unless I'm missing something.

[01:27] <UnknownSmurf> I believed at the time MI6 was looking to start a war with a smaller AA less connected AA (like us) to show 

[01:27] <UnknownSmurf> off.. or flex like many new AAs have done in the pat.

[01:27] <UnknownSmurf> past*

[01:27] <Chimaera> MI6 has done a grand total of nothing in the past six months that'd show even *remote* inclination to go hostile.

[01:27] <Chimaera> There are multiple spheres out there who want to murder us, you think we want to give them the opportunity?

[01:28] <UnknownSmurf> But Umb/DT and Umb/GLOF ties was the logic from what I've heard. I'm not connected enough to be in those conversations so I couldn't tell you

[01:28] <UnknownSmurf> but some people are under the impression that your sphere is trying to instigate a war with a direct Umb ally so that you have Aztec on your side

[01:29] <UnknownSmurf> But I dont think that is relevant at this juncture

[01:29] <UnknownSmurf> as DeathAdder has convinced me that this is false.

[01:29] <Chimaera> And some people are under the impression that yours is doing the exact same thing.

[01:29] <Chimaera> Which, admittedly, you just did the direct opposite of.

[01:29] <UnknownSmurf> Its really not

[01:29] <Chimaera> So I don't think you have any intention of taking this global, either.

[01:29] <UnknownSmurf> I'm not even allied to doomsphere directly -.-

[01:30] <UnknownSmurf> which is why you talking to DoomSquad is !@#$@#$ stupid

[01:30] <Chimaera> We're talking to DoomSquad?

[01:30] <Chimaera> I don't even know who the $%&@ is in DoomSquad

[01:30] <UnknownSmurf> ...

[01:30] <UnknownSmurf> Well Stagger and Milton talked to DoomSquad

[01:30] * Chimaera shrugs

[01:30] <Chimaera> Like I said

[01:30] <Chimaera> Inactive for 3 weeks

[01:30] <UnknownSmurf> in order to secure LN as a free target for GOONS

[01:30] <UnknownSmurf> yeah I know

[01:30] <Chimaera> Think this entire situation is idiotic

[01:30] <Chimaera> Pretty sure you're a big pack of retards and I should quit CN

[01:30] <Chimaera> :P

[01:31] <UnknownSmurf> I've been telling myself that for some time now

[01:31] <UnknownSmurf> I think the only issue is that both of us have too big egos to let go of what we built.

[01:31] <UnknownSmurf> Nor do we actually trust anyone enough to fill our shoes. 

[01:36] <Chimaera> I think the issue is that you just sucker punched someone five times your size and fifteen times your activity and then realized that it wasn't a great life choice.

[01:37] <UnknownSmurf> I don't see the issue. Only have 3 defensive slots

[01:37] <UnknownSmurf> ^.^

Session Close: Tue Sep 23 02:22:43 2014

 

[Unknown Smurf]

Are you in at war with 4 of us? And you staggered yourself for us too. Thanks bai.

 

You're in range and not in anarchy.

 

Come play. 

 

Thanks bai.

[Jackie Moon]

"We never said no to ghosts, so don't get all butthurt about it."

*Comprises entire upper tier with ghosts



"What of it?"

[IYIyTh]

 

 

Yeah it's a legitimate strategy, it's been used as such and it will probably continue to be used as such.  That said, I'm not so sure about this:

 

 

Mostly because 25% of MI6 nations above 30k NS are in PM right now (14/56); in fact ~36% of MI6 nations that are in PM are above 30k NS (14/39).  Sure that means most of their PM nations are firmly in the lower tiers, but it's not even close to exclusively their lower tier nations.  I mean I frankly don't care that much, but I just wanted to point this out because the rhetoric that it's about protecting lower tier nations against Kaskus's wonder heavy monsters down there isn't entirely accurate.

 

 

 

I don't get it -- are we all pretending to ignore the possibility of this escalating?

 

Or are we still on the herp derp peace mode shindig?