feardaram Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 wow you mk guys are pretty crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lusitan Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 [quote name='NoFish' timestamp='1323321276' post='2868456'] Since when was it the responsibility of an alliance to announce neutrality in order to not get attacked? I've seen nothing to indicate that either of them planned to join the war. [/quote] They did announce they had several Mutual Defense pacts (announcement has been traditionally regarded as condition for recognition) so it'd be expectable them to announce if they were not planning to actually fulfil them - specially these days when counter-declarations take several days to happen. We took their several MDoAPs as an indication of where they planned to side and we were not told otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoFish Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 [quote name='mq3eleven' timestamp='1323321536' post='2868473'] Quit wasting your time and deal with it. [/quote] Only MK would qq in their own DoW. Style and class, right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkEra97 Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Have fun with this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta1212 Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 [quote name='Johnny Apocalypse' timestamp='1323321083' post='2868436'] I've seen nothing to indicate any neutrality claimed by CRAP and TTK, a number of alliances in this war have treaty conflicts and they're still fighting regardless. If there was any real intent to stay neutral it could have been announced, otherwise the bulk of their treaties point to them providing support for SF. We're just pre-empting that support. This isn't just because we can, there is a strategic reason behind it. For me it's nothing personal, just business. [/quote] That's what TOP said about MK. And for the record... You should not have hit CRAP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slide Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 [quote name='Furril' timestamp='1323320622' post='2868398'] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/8gMGh.gif[/IMG] Been waiting to pop my nuke cherry for months now. [/quote] If someone wants to declare on this guy you have my blessing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Apocalypse Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 [quote name='NoFish' timestamp='1323321276' post='2868456'] Since when was it the responsibility of an alliance to announce neutrality in order to not get attacked? I've seen nothing to indicate that either of them planned to join the war. [/quote] I've seen or heard nothing to indicate that they didn't plan to join the war, only when word got leaked that they were going to be hit and that was third party information so naturally I was skeptical. I received no queries from CRAP or TTK stating their intent to stay out after they were becoming aware that this might've happened. Of course it's not their responsibility to have to declare neutrality but if that was indeed their plan from the start it would've helped. If I got word that someone was maybe going to attack my alliance pre-emptively to stop me defending my allies and I intended on staying neutral I would goto that alliance and inform them of my intent. Even if it was just a rumour with little verification it's best to nip these things in the bud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeternos Astramora Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 [quote name='NoFish' timestamp='1323321472' post='2868469'] So are they going to pre-empt WTF next? They haven't announced that they're going to be neutral this war but have shown just as much inclination to join as CRAP and TTK. [/quote] I hope so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheListener Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 [quote name='NoFish' timestamp='1323321661' post='2868481'] Only MK would qq in their own DoW. Style and class, right there. [/quote] I believe that would be him telling you to stop QQing but yes, we QQ hardcore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormsend Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 [quote name='NoFish' timestamp='1323321661' post='2868481'] Style and class, right there. [/quote] You're just pissy because we bought the last of the monocles. Please continue whining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daikos Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 [quote name='Myworld' timestamp='1323320525' post='2868387'] Just leave some for the rest of us. [/quote] No. Go and find somewhere else to play. Thanks in advance. [quote name='NoFish' timestamp='1323320685' post='2868403'] Am I missing something here or did DH just declare on a bunch of alliances - including two who are currently neutral due to treaty conflicts - because they felt like they could? [/quote] [img]http://againspire.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/sm1110whatever-posters.jpg[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoFish Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Lusitan' timestamp='1323321632' post='2868480'] They did announce they had several Mutual Defense pacts (announcement has been traditionally regarded as condition for recognition) so it'd be expectable them to announce if they were not planning to actually fulfil them - specially these days when counter-declarations take several days to happen. We took their several MDoAPs as an indication of where they planned to side and we were not told otherwise. [/quote] I see, so it's a rule of your hegemony that anyone planning not to take part in a war has to immediately contact you to declare their neutrality or risk being rolled? Edit: Daikos has the strongest argument I've seen from you guys so far. It's the middle of a war and you want to roll whoever you damn well feel like rolling. CB's are a thing of the past. We get it, no need to !@#$%^&*. Edited December 8, 2011 by NoFish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Apocalypse Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 [quote name='NoFish' timestamp='1323321472' post='2868469'] So are they going to pre-empt WTF next? They haven't announced that they're going to be neutral this war but have shown just as much inclination to join as CRAP and TTK. [/quote] WTF are a neutral alliance. That's pretty common knowledge. [quote name='Delta1212' timestamp='1323321720' post='2868487'] That's what TOP said about MK. And for the record... You should not have hit CRAP. [/quote] No? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Buscemi Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Looks like 'various alliances' are now all dead. Don't even need to know who they are. Light them up! Merry Christmas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letum Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 The world needs more pre-emptive strikes. A war taking 2 weeks to fully escalate is ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfire99 Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 [quote name='Furril' timestamp='1323320622' post='2868398'] Image Been waiting to pop my nuke cherry for months now. [/quote] This is crass on so many levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 [quote name='Delta1212' timestamp='1323321720' post='2868487'] And for the record... You should not have hit CRAP. [/quote] Something wrong, partner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homura Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 [quote name='Delta1212' timestamp='1323321720' post='2868487'] You should not have hit CRAP. [/quote] Yeah, it might splatter and hit the fan, and we all know where that leads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wu Tang Clan Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 [quote name='Neo Uruk' timestamp='1323321969' post='2868504'] Something wrong, partner? [/quote] Crap has a secret weapon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukapaka Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 [quote name='Johnny Apocalypse' timestamp='1323321083' post='2868436'] This isn't just because we can, there is a strategic reason behind it. For me it's nothing personal, just business. [/quote] Tech raids are usually good for business. Good move, Umbrella. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azaghul Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 (edited) I know it makes good propaganda but does anyone really believe that these alliances weren't in the wings for the polar side here. Edited December 8, 2011 by Azaghul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrwuss Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Someone dec me or send me targets. Searching sucks via mobile! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormsend Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 [quote name='Azaghul' timestamp='1323322125' post='2868514'] I know it makes good propaganda but does anyone really believe that these alliances weren't in the wings for the polar side here. [/quote] Get Comms to make the propaganda. Let's get ahead of this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groucho Marx Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 [quote name='Azaghul' timestamp='1323322125' post='2868514'] I know it makes good propaganda but does anyone really believe that these alliances weren't in the wings for the polar side here. [/quote] If they say it enough it becomes fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarman2010 Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 I think the issue RIA finds with you hitting us is that we're directly tied to both MJ and SF and both of those parties were well aware that we would not be participating in this fight. Since when is it common practice to inform those you have no treaty with that you intend to remain neutral, especially when you've already told the only people it should matter to, your treaty partners. Whatever, we could have told DH we were going to be neutral and this would have happened anyway because we're on maroon and not a member of MEAT. CRAP happens (look, I forced a pun in your CRAPpy DoW. Oh look, another) and as has been said, the days of needing a CB are long gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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