Stormsend

We’ve already begun planning the 50 year reunion, too.

[quote name='Systemfailure' timestamp='1340807850' post='2998355'] your welcome to take them with you when you leave, we certainly didnt bring them. [/quote] Neither did we. They just kinda followed us. Blindly. Without hesitation.

Stop posting old man.

[quote name='cookavich' timestamp='1340294286' post='2991871'] a great propaganda coup for user rotavele. it's incredible how thick you are. [/quote] There is a joke in this statement. I can feel it.

[quote name='muwen1234' timestamp='1340264508' post='2991637'] $%&@ you. Apparently the default government for MK nations is Anarchy. o/NATO!!! [/quote] I don't always post on the OWF. But when I do, it's to concede to my enemies' wit and strength.

Good luck, friends!!!

[quote name='dejarue' timestamp='1339694094' post='2983616'] If you allowed Dave the protection of your AA, you're playing pointless word games to wiggle out of the fact you're pinned on your own argument. I'm really not down for word games. It's too early right now for me. [/quote] I'm not pinned on anything. You're argument was flawed in that you posted incorrect information. That isn't a word game. It's a rebuttal. CSN continued attacks on a nation that had fled to a sovereign AA. It is standard practice to alert the alliance protecting that AA of the situation. That never happened. You'd like to think we're so wrong here, but CSN refused to offer a commonly given courtesy, showing a blatant lack of respect to the AA and those that protect it.

[quote name='dejarue' timestamp='1339693827' post='2983602'] I didn't even have to reach in my pocket. You're claiming you attack CSN for violating MK sovereignty when it's literally the most accepted rule in CN that an alliance's ZI list is something you don't recruit from, unless you ask them first. That would be sovereignty. I didn't even have to make an analogy. I summed up precisely what you have done. This isn't a comparison to something worse. You *did* the "something worse". [/quote] Who did we recruit?

[quote name='dejarue' timestamp='1339693249' post='2983589'] Hahahahaha. "They violated our sovereignty by not letting us violate their sovereignty at will. YOU WOULD HAVE DONE THE SAME!" MK logic, at its best right there. [/quote] I hope you didn't dislocate anything reaching that far.

[quote name='Blooddraken' timestamp='1339691643' post='2983547'] And you went past your own borders by accepting him while they were punishing him. No matter how you spin this, you were in the wrong. You violated their sovereignty by accepting him while he was being dealt with. [/quote] I will say this in colors so you might actually pay attention. [color="#00FF00"]He[/color] [color="#FF0000"]hasn't[/color] [color="#00FFFF"]been[/color] [color="#800080"]accepted[/color] [color="#FF8C00"]yet.[/color]

[quote name='WarriorConcept' timestamp='1339691482' post='2983540'] Stormsend I missed you. [/quote] Having a kid takes your focus away from what's important. Like responding to the weeping masses.

[quote name='Blooddraken' timestamp='1339691281' post='2983534'] Your sovereignty? Don't make me laugh. What about their sovereignty in dealing with their rule-breakers? He broke their rules. They were punishing him for it. You stepped in and offered him protection, while the punishment was ongoing, and when CSN didn't back off, which they shouldn't have had to, you declared war on them for enforcing their own rules. [/quote] Their sovereignty extends only to our borders. They violated that. [quote name='Clash' timestamp='1339691364' post='2983537'] WTG shemp! I bet you took all day writing that one. Everything I've said is right and everything your alliance has said and done is BS. The average three year old has more honesty and integrity than your entire alliance has. [/quote] The average three year old knows Underdog doesn't cry nearly as much as you do.

[quote name='bombuator' timestamp='1339691042' post='2983528'] CSN post 2 days ago said he was on a ZI list so why accept him, and you guys knew they would keep going until he was ZI'ed. [/quote] [quote name='Clash' timestamp='1339691083' post='2983530'] What a load of hypocritical crap. You will let in known spies sentenced to ZI, so actually you WILL just let in anyone. Or rather, anyone who can give you a half-assed bs excuse for a curbstomp. Why would they accept a peace request from a nation sentenced to ZI - one who admitted he did it, left his alliance over it and had already accepted his sentence? Hell, you disregarded CSN's sovereignty when you took him in. Seriously serious, just grow a pair and call it what it is. [/quote] I am beginning to believe you are on a three year old's reading level. EDIT: To clarify, we haven't let him in yet.

[quote name='Blooddraken' timestamp='1339690906' post='2983524'] But didn't you already admit he wasn't even on your AA at the time those wars were declared against him? [/quote] If you ask the same question four hundred times, eventually I might screw up, right?

[quote name='bombuator' timestamp='1339690228' post='2983502'] So your taking a nation with active wars. [/quote] [quote name='Blooddraken' timestamp='1339690268' post='2983504'] SO you admit to accepting his application even though he was already in a war? Could have sworn that was frowned upon in CN. [/quote] The Mushroom Kingdom application process is a lengthy one. Unlike your alliances, we don't just let anyone in, regardless of whether they have a pulse and/or the ability to use logic and reason. While he was not a member at the time, members on the AA are afforded the protection the members of the main AA are given. Yes, he had active wars when he came to the AA and yes CSN had sentenced him to ZI. But they disregarded an affiliation's sovereignty when they chose to ignore a peace request and nuke the applicant anyway. In no way did they attempt to contact us and tell us they were willing to violate that sovereignty, and had anyone in the fabled MK sphere of influence done what CSN had done, they'd be evil ones in the scenario.

[quote name='bombuator' timestamp='1339689739' post='2983484'] Your lying look at his war screen 2 different alliances he was in in under a week and they weren't MK. So yes you did accept a nation at war and I hope you would know he was at war when one of your own nations attacks him too, [/quote] I never said he was on the AA when his war began, you grammatical renegade.

[quote name='Moose Hole' timestamp='1339689255' post='2983473'] MK has tiger blood and Adonis DNA. [/quote] No. We have Dave93 and oyababy.

[quote name='Clash' timestamp='1339688730' post='2983460'] The wars came first. If one were to look at his war screens you would find no mention of anything MK. After all he deserved it and you would have done the same thing, no matter who decided to accept him after the fact. Just keep up with the BS excuses, it just makes you a bigger bunch of lying pathetic [b]curbstomping[/b] punks. [/quote] I took the liberty of bolding the only important word in your post. You're welcome. If MK had disregarded a peace offer and nuked someone on an applicant AA, you'd all be jumping down our throats, claiming we're evil, etc. Clearly we just can't win. You all hate us. We have become the monster...

[quote name='Tromp' timestamp='1339688421' post='2983453'] It's not even because they were bored, it's because they had to find a solution to their problem of a lapdog-sphere civil war (NoR and LSF). Don't think they're anything other then survivalists. They'll run over anything and anyone by any means necessary if that keeps them at the top. [/quote] That's not survivalism. That's called winning. Survivalism is an aim to survive. What allaince, exactly, isn't striving for that?

[quote name='Tromp' timestamp='1339687785' post='2983439'] Well, even in that case you still only proclaimed to protect him after he was justly sentenced to ZI. So it's rather the other way around Stormsend. [/quote] It isn't a math equation. There is no order of operations for respect. There is one for recognizing your argument is flawed, however. PEMDAS in this case stands for "Please Excuse My Dumb Ass, Stormsend." And I do.

[quote name='Clash' timestamp='1339687657' post='2983433'] What part of ZI confused you? He deserved it and accepted it after all. Yeah that often involves nukes. [/quote] What part of "The Mushroom Kingdom Applicant AA is under the protection of the Mushroom Kingdom" confused you? Your alliance declarations do not and will not infringe on the protections afforded to those under the affiliation until conflicts can be resolved.

[quote name='ShouAS' timestamp='1339687183' post='2983415'] He wasn't on that AA when he was attacked, so again, It is MK policy to protect applicants already at war? [/quote] That isn't an "again." It's an entirely new question. Did CSN ever show any regard for the sovereignty of the Mushroom Kingdom or its protected affiliations by at least giving us prior warning they would disregard a peace offer and nuke him? I am unclear as to why we are expected to show any regard for their declarations if we would not get the same courtesy.

[quote name='ShouAS' timestamp='1339686709' post='2983405'] So it's MK policy to accept applicants who are already at war? [/quote] He was not a accepted member at the time. The MK Applicant AA is still protected by the Mushroom Kingdom, however.

[quote name='D34th' timestamp='1339656537' post='2983115'] You will really think that someone will believe that MK did this because is concerned with Dave's welfare? [/quote] As the Baron of Admissions for the Mushroom Kingdom, I take the safety of our applicants very seriously.

[quote name='Rotavele' timestamp='1339645715' post='2982772'] You know what? The sad thing is, is that if I had kissed Doomhouse's/NG ass a week ago, I'd be held on a high throne and told about how great I am.... However, a true woman sticks to her honor and her values. I hope the social sell out was worth it Dave93. [/quote] Didn't we ban your sorry ass from our boards?