Derwood1 Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 [quote name='AirMe' timestamp='1310007675' post='2751060'] Got to page 5, I am a few days behind. But after the Jack Diorno incident, Ronin does protect the NAAC AA in any way that we can. No there is nothing on paper about it. It's ok though, the person who raided Chozo isn't....well you know my mom always said if you can't say something nice don't say anything at all. [/quote] Airme wakes up to find the world has left him behind, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Boris Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 [quote name='Mr Damsky' timestamp='1309885392' post='2749461'] I was under the impression the NAAC is protected by FAN. [/quote] This reference actually gave me a decent laugh. Bravo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnCapistan Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 [quote name='Lord Boris' timestamp='1310062611' post='2751501'] This reference actually gave me a decent laugh. Bravo. [/quote] Maybe I'm just completely lost here, but FAN still does protect the NAAC AA right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriekfreak Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 [quote name='AirMe' timestamp='1310007675' post='2751060'] Got to page 5, I am a few days behind. But after the Jack Diorno incident, Ronin does protect the NAAC AA in any way that we can. No there is nothing on paper about it. It's ok though, the person who raided Chozo isn't....well you know my mom always said if you can't say something nice don't say anything at all. [/quote] Maybe you should make sure it's on their bio's and on their wiki next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Janova Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 Or maybe raiders should apply due diligence. Anyway, Tetris formally posted a notice of protection, so there shouldn't [i]be[/i] a next time and if there is there should be reps no questions asked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Impero Romano Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 [quote name='Bob Janova' timestamp='1310071007' post='2751601'] Or maybe raiders should apply due diligence. Anyway, Tetris formally posted a notice of protection, so there shouldn't [i]be[/i] a next time and if there is there should be reps no questions asked. [/quote] Airme said there was nothing written on paper about it and it was "in any way they can", so I don't think there was really and diligence to do. But yea, now there is something on paper, so it should be fine in the future, and I don't think your going to see NG or anyone else having gripes with a formal protectorate. Happy ending for all, etc etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriekfreak Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Bob Janova' timestamp='1310071007' post='2751601'] Or maybe raiders should apply due diligence.[/quote] I don't care much about due diligence Bob. Reasonable investigation should be enough. Bio's and wiki's should be updated all times. You can't expect people to monitor all posts in all threads in all forums, can you? [quote]Anyway, Tetris formally posted a notice of protection, so there shouldn't [i]be[/i] a next time and if there is there should be reps no questions asked. [/quote] With next time I meant, the next thing they want to protect. I don't give a !@#$ basically who or what they or anyone else protects, just make clear you are. So it must come up with reasonable investigation. If not, well the blame is on you. Edited July 7, 2011 by kriekfreak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandwich Controversy Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 [quote name='kriekfreak' timestamp='1310063740' post='2751511'] Maybe you should make sure it's on their bio's and on their wiki next time. [/quote] Great idea. "Unofficially protected by Ronin, attacks might be responded to" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriekfreak Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 [quote name='Sandwich Controversy' timestamp='1310078232' post='2751710'] Great idea. "Unofficially protected by Ronin, attacks might be responded to" [/quote] It was only unofficial because Ronin lacked putting any of it in writing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3filed Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 (edited) [quote name='AirMe' timestamp='1310007675' post='2751060'] It's ok though, the person who raided Chozo isn't....well you know my mom always said if you can't say something nice don't say anything at all. [/quote] o/ d3filed o/ free tech Ultimately I believe we've done NAAC a great favour here recently; as it's incredibly unlikely that they will be subjected to tech re-distribution ever again. Edited July 7, 2011 by d3filed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereno Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 [quote name='d3filed' timestamp='1310078648' post='2751720'] o/ d3filed o/ free tech Ultimately I believe [b]we've done NAAC a great favour here recently; [/b]as it's incredibly unlikely that they will be subjected to tech re-distribution ever again. [/quote] Moralist scum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pollard Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 Tetris: Spoiling people's fun since 2009. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3filed Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 [quote name='Hereno' timestamp='1310082619' post='2751760'] Moralist scum. [/quote] I believe the terminology was filth, boi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirMe Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 [quote name='Derwood1' timestamp='1310012663' post='2751142'] Airme wakes up to find the world has left him behind, lol. [/quote] This is nothing new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 I could have sworn they were protected by NpO, Ronin, and others who had former members in positions of power. If it's not in their bio or easily available to those who live under rocks, that's one thing, but as soon as the raiders are told the nations are protected they should check out those statements and not make any further attacks, lest risking the goodwill said protectors may be willing to extend under the circumstances. Of course, all common sense, good will, and good faith go out the window if you have the power to back it up regardless of the consequences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackorchid Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 Ignore me... We've been through this kind of case before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K1L1O Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 We did worse actually, we were raiding a dead alliance Good luck for NAAC and NonGrata to solve this peacefully, but please keep raiding alive in this planet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sardonic Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 [quote name='kriekfreak' timestamp='1310071758' post='2751612'] I don't care much about due diligence Bob. Reasonable investigation should be enough. Bio's and wiki's should be updated all times. You can't expect people to monitor all posts in all threads in all forums, can you? [/quote] This, this, a thousand times this. Failing to provide proof of protection in bio or wiki form is an invitation for raiding. You can't expect all alliances to pay attention to this sort of thing on the forums. Bios and Wikis are due diligence enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobalt Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 (edited) I get the whole "feel proud for your disbanded alliance" thing, but I don't really see how that translates into the OP throwing around the weight of those who honor the memory of the NAAC every time his refusal to move on lands him in hot water. The way I see it, the raiders aren't raiding the NAAC, they're raiding a pile of tech and land that expects people to watch its back but with no obligation for it to watch theirs. I mean really, is the memory of the NAAC somehow bolstered by LordChozo's tech? Either way, it seems this has been decided. The OP has been living off the good graces of those who respected the NAAC since she disbanded, and like a good parasite who's host has dried up, it has found a new one - this time in the form of Tetris. See you all in, 6? months when this happens again. Edited July 8, 2011 by Cobalt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirMe Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 [quote name='Cobalt' timestamp='1310143767' post='2752581'] I get the whole "feel proud for your disbanded alliance" thing, but I don't really see how that translates into the OP throwing around the weight of those who honor the memory of the NAAC every time his refusal to move on lands him in hot water. The way I see it, the raiders aren't raiding the NAAC, they're raiding a pile of tech and land that expects people to watch its back but with no obligation for it to watch theirs. I mean really, is the memory of the NAAC somehow bolstered by LordChozo's tech? Either way, it seems this has been decided. The OP has been living off the good graces of those who respected the NAAC since she disbanded, and like a good parasite who's host has dried up, it has found a new one - this time in the form of Tetris. See you all in, 6? months when this happens again. [/quote] It won't happen again. We have gotten the appropriate information to be placed in the bios. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pollard Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 [quote name='AirMe' timestamp='1310145473' post='2752612'] It won't happen again. We have gotten the appropriate information to be placed in the bios. [/quote] Pfft. Our protection is better than yours! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gofastleft Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 [quote name='AirMe' timestamp='1310145473' post='2752612'] It won't happen again. We have gotten the appropriate information to be placed in the bios. [/quote] Good grief AirMe, why did you go and do that?? All you did was stop a few days of drama from happening again in six months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirMe Posted July 9, 2011 Report Share Posted July 9, 2011 [quote name='Gofastleft' timestamp='1310163538' post='2752872'] Good grief AirMe, why did you go and do that?? All you did was stop a few days of drama from happening again in six months. [/quote] We can arrange that I am sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigrun Vapneir Posted July 9, 2011 Report Share Posted July 9, 2011 (edited) [quote name='kriekfreak' timestamp='1310071758' post='2751612'] I don't care much about due diligence Bob. Reasonable investigation should be enough. Bio's and wiki's should be updated all times. You can't expect people to monitor all posts in all threads in all forums, can you? [/quote] The bio space is limited and often used for other things. Anybody can edit a wiki but that doesnt make them up to date as very few people do. You cant be expected to monitor every forum post, but you can be expected to [i]search[/i] them, which it seems would have turned up some warnings. And frankly just looking at his AA seniority should have set off some alarm bells - someone with 4.5 years seniority on an AA like that with no backup? If it looks to good to be true it probably is. Anyhow, looks like everything worked out for the best. Edited July 9, 2011 by Sigrun Vapneir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz Ferdinand Posted July 9, 2011 Report Share Posted July 9, 2011 LordChozo, go and get protection for your Alliance, thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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