LegendoftheSkies Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 [quote name='JT Jag' timestamp='1309811473' post='2748572'] As someone who isn't a dinosaur and joined Planet Bob before the Triassic era, I don't particularly know what NAAC, apparently a relic of an old era which has been dead and gone for years, is, besides an expired alliance with an acronym very similar to NADC. [/quote] NAAC is, as far as I'm aware, an alliance with a long and rich history... of consistently getting their faces beaten in. If anything, Non Grata's just keeping up the tradition. All we need is to get NPO in on this and it'll be just like old times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT Jag Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 [quote name='flak attack' timestamp='1309811659' post='2748575'] I'll note that the NAAC AA was protected by GR before their merge with TLR. You may want to talk to them before you decide this isn't a protected AA. [/quote]TLR explicitly declared which of their treaties were carrying over from the merge and which ones weren't. The NAAC treaty wasn't listed amongst them. So it'd be sorta revised history to just pick the protectorate back up now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varianz Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 It's ridiculously easy to get protection, and as such, I have no sympathy for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chefjoe Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Quit crying you !@#$%, take it like a man or do something to prevent it like getting a protector/build your alliance. Just because you are lazy does not mean you have rights... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush Sykes Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 [quote name='flak attack' timestamp='1309811659' post='2748575'] I'll note that the NAAC AA was protected by GR before their merge with TLR. You may want to talk to them before you decide this isn't a protected AA. [/quote] Actually, as I recall, Athens and GR were jointly going to protect NAAC. That did not materialize however. As for my part, this is just another raid. If NAAC wants to be viewed as a dead alliance, then those hanging onto it, should let it die. Thats just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Virginia Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 [quote name='Edward Reed' timestamp='1309808491' post='2748487'] if you want to continue to exist on a small AA get a protector [/quote] [color="#0000FF"]NAAC as an AA has generally been respected, for historical reasons. In fact, there are many ex-NAAC scattered throughout the leadership of various alliances, and who have in the past declared that the NAAC affiliation will be protected. Quite frankly I must say I am interested in what their response to this will be.[/color] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormsend Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 [quote name='Rebel Virginia' timestamp='1309812029' post='2748584'] [color="#0000FF"]NAAC as an AA has generally been respected, for historical reasons. In fact, there are many ex-NAAC scattered throughout the leadership of various alliances, and who have in the past declared that the NAAC affiliation will be protected. Quite frankly I must say I am interested in what their response to this will be.[/color] [/quote] I, for one, am deeply hurt by this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melancholy Culkin Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Raid them again for whining all over the place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Republic of Bari Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Given the history of the AA, I feel like someone should have put it under protection years ago. Be it a former enemy who respected the NAAC or one of the alliances that arose from the ashes of the NAAC. Just a nice little unilateral statement of protection. Seems odd this was never done. No protection basically meant some younger alliance was going to do exactly what just happened. It's basically likely ignoring a fire hazard for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mergerberger II Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 [quote name='Republic of Bari' timestamp='1309812222' post='2748588'] Given the history of the AA, I feel like someone should have put it under protection years ago. [/quote] Someone did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordChozo Posted July 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 All this talk of "revival" confuses me. I wasn't aware I ever left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vol Navy Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Republic of Bari' timestamp='1309812222' post='2748588'] Given the history of the AA, I feel like someone should have put it under protection years ago. Be it a former enemy who respected the NAAC or one of the alliances that arose from the ashes of the NAAC. Just a nice little unilateral statement of protection. Seems odd this was never done. No protection basically meant some younger alliance was going to do exactly what just happened. It's basically likely ignoring a fire hazard for years. [/quote] They've not just happened to go unnoticed for all these years and only to now get raided. Lots of former members went on to leadership roles in influential alliances. They lent their political weight to see NAAC went unharmed. Those people may have been replaced or fallen from grace these days. Now you see one of the oldest traditions on Bob being buried it would seem. Edited July 4, 2011 by Vol Navy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitchellBade Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 [quote name='Mergerberger II' timestamp='1309812372' post='2748592'] Someone did. [/quote] Oh please be alluding to something. Pretty, pretty please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriekfreak Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 [quote name='Vol Navy' timestamp='1309812532' post='2748601'] They've not just happened to go unnoticed for all these years and only to now get raided. Lots of former members went on to leadership roles in influential alliances. They lent their political weight to see NAAC went unharmed. Those people may have been replaced or fallen from grace these days. Now you see one of the oldest traditions on Bob being buried it would seem. [/quote] Listen buddy, it's not like we are forcing them out of the AA or mass-attacking them. All he has to do is accept the peace offer and move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir Nikanor Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 I thought NAAC kicked the bucket years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pd73bassman Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 I didn't realize we gave special treatment to "Historical" AA's If they didn't want this to happen then simply get a protector and make it known Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vol Navy Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 [quote name='kriekfreak' timestamp='1309812713' post='2748610'] Listen buddy, it's not like we are forcing them out of the AA or mass-attacking them. All he has to do is accept the peace offer and move on. [/quote] I'm just saying they've been protected for 4 years now. It was pretty common knowledge. We will see how much sway the old power brokers that provided that protection still have, or even how many of them are still around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriekfreak Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 [quote name='Vol Navy' timestamp='1309812927' post='2748617'] I'm just saying they've been protected for 4 years now. It was pretty common knowledge. We will see how much sway the old power brokers that provided that protection still have, or even how many of them are still around. [/quote] Fair enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush Sykes Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 [quote name='Vol Navy' timestamp='1309812927' post='2748617'] I'm just saying they've been protected for 4 years now. It was pretty common knowledge. We will see how much sway the old power brokers that provided that protection still have, or even how many of them are still around. [/quote] In those 4 years.. they have been raided multiple times. With no consequences. I wouldnt call them "protected." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Virginia Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 [quote name='Stormsend' timestamp='1309812097' post='2748585'] I, for one, am deeply hurt by this. [/quote] [color="#0000FF"]I would be happy to help you do something about it, but I fear I have my own things that I must do.[/color] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Janova Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 I'm pretty sure GR protected these guys. [quote]Yeah because 4 Ground attacks constitutes a war.[/quote] If we put four GAs in on your alliance, I'm sure you'd claim it was war and demand reps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoomzoomzoom Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 [quote name='Mergerberger II' timestamp='1309812372' post='2748592'] Someone did. [/quote] Yeah, Jack Diorno did his best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pansy Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 I can't remember them being officially alliance wide protected as such, just a PR nightmare if you did raid them, hence why most raiding alliances I know steer clear. Have Fun NG, never been a fan of protecting dead alliances myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegendoftheSkies Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 [quote name='Zoomzoomzoom' timestamp='1309813197' post='2748625'] Yeah, Jack Diorno did his best. [/quote] And everyone just mocked him for it. You all have no one to blame but yourselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriekfreak Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 [quote name='Bob Janova' timestamp='1309813178' post='2748624'] I'm pretty sure GR protected these guys. If we put four GAs in on your alliance, I'm sure you'd claim it was war and demand reps. [/quote] I'd claim it was a techraid gone wrong and demand reps. Subtle but notable difference Bob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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