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"We haven't had a war in ages"
"These wars never end, they are so boring"
Congratulations on being able to point out two opposing opinions in a game containing tens of thousands of players, very clever. I don't understand why you did it however, as simply saying 'these guys have a differing opinion' does nothing to refute either argument, but it looks as though you've already chosen it as your stock reply of choice to anyone who says they are bored by a world with CnG near the top, so whatever.
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I hate to reply to such an obviously thought-out piece with such a simple response, but the answer to why the leading alliances haven't forgiven the NPO isn't because it hasn't apologised and changed, it's because it's strategically advantageous for them to paint the NPO as (still) being the evil monster hiding under the bed.
There are several alliances in particular who have become very drunk on power very quickly and they aren't ready to sober up yet, so by talking up the threat of the dangerous and menacing NPO they are able to keep the loosely affiliated blocs and relationships that give them such a free reign over the world together.
From what little I can see from afar, the NPO has made changes in leadership and foreign policy. These changes are generally ignored or dismissed out of hand however, because they don't sit well with scare tactic that many have apparently bought into - that the NPO is still that same alliance that we all need to fear.
I suspect that an apology would be treated in the same way by those pushing the scare tactics - dismissed out of hand with accusations of "insincerity" or "a lack of substance" no doubt - but it's possible that others might accept it, which would present an interesting situation. I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens!
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The powerless have always stood with their heads down and hoped to not be the next victim. Difference is, nowadays the threat is "whimsical games and jokes," whereas it was destruction, disbandment, or extortion that they faced in the old days.
If anything, this shows how much better the change in power was for Planet Bob, rather than remaining under Pacifica's rule.
Trying to get people to judge the benevolence of SG against NPO standards is pretty silly because those standards were so SO SO low that exceeding them in itself is nothing noteworthy.
It'd just be nicer if they set their own (preferably higher) standards, you know? NPO has been out of power a while now and we could do things completely differently, surely that would be better than SG defaulting to the lowest possible 'we're bad but we're not NPO bad' position throughout their reign over the world.
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People hated you and threw anything they could at you. With that simple answer in mind, maybe you'd be better off focusing on why anyone would go to such lengths to smear the hated NPO in the first place. I think that'd be more productive than rewriting history by deflecting the blame for your downfall away from your leadership and onto the evil propaganda merchants (and their various lines of attack on your own particular brand of rule).
OR!!! Maybe you could simply let it go and move on, instead of trying to stoke up tired old fires.
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I have to laugh at how the uber-old guys always seem obliged to deny their own obvious feelings of achievement every time they bring up how old-school they all are, particularly when using the wonderfully funny I'm being forced to keep playing against my will, kill me now, I am not enjoying this - why am I still here!!! etc shtick.
These pre-emptive strikes against potential accusations of being a "nerd" or a "geek" are not necessary guys, you are free to enjoy the triumph of existence. Put away your shame and show your pride, for it is not a crime for you to love the game as much as you do.
Congratulations on four years of Cyber Nations, AirMe.
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Some high grade burns going on here. Nice work gentlemen.
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I believ Believeland is making the point that most raiders are cowards who are scared of a nuclear deterrent. He is not actually a raider, but is merely mocking them through imitation. Pretty clever you guys!!! :3
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Nice dialogue. Predictably the economically minded leader was the perfect person to help oversee your time under terms, but it'll be interesting (to me, at least) to see whether he remains as a good fit at the head of the alliance now that you are free from the restrictions of a life under reps. Finance folks do not have the dynamism for the job of top dog if you ask me (just a general idea, not a specific criticism of Cortath), they are too linear in thought and uninspiring in deed to be effective leaders of men.
You mentioned a substantial rebuilding fund to help your most loyal allies in rebuilding, how much $$$ are we talking here? If certain alliances are due big handouts from the Pacifican economic machine, I should probably take a gander at said alliances' application procedures.
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I, too, take pleasure in the loss of human life.
*sips Mountain Dew, munches a Cheeto*
Yeah man, they are only IRANIAN lives anyways. Iran is evil, right? Die bad guys! Die die die!
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Nice to see you talking about something other than Gremlins (well, almost
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If you think the problem is 'too much attention is being paid to Grämlins' ... well, there's a 150 page thread full of people to go an complain to, and a lot of those people have a less valid reason to mention it than I do.
The problem is YOU 'paying attention' (that is a nice way of putting what you're trying to do, really) to Gre. The good folks of the 150 page thread have a right to complain about what has become of Gre because there wasn't much they could do about the situation until it was too late. You, on the other hand, had that chance, but you flunked it, and yet you have had the audacity to pontificate over what the alliance has become for weeks now.
In your own words: "obviously I didn't do enough", "my efforts were not enough", "some of it is probably my fault", "Like I said, I failed" and "I'm guilty of [...] not being good enough at stopping the rot". Given those comments, why on earth do you think you're in any position to give repeated lectures of criticism towards Gre telling them all how they've really let themselves go, when the Gre we see today is because of your own inaction and incompetence yesterday?
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Aimee, you really didn't have to read this blog entry, you know
.Burying my head in the sand and ignoring a problem won't make it go away.
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anyone saying "You're crying has annoyed me more than anything GRE has done in the last month," yeah, we get it, you're trying to be "cool" by not giving a damn, but its a community to others.
Ha, yeah, it's all me trying to look cool, you got me. Unbelievable.
I do give a damn about what Gre are doing and I do feel sorry for the members of the alliance to see their home burned down around them over something so silly. This doesn't mean I have to default to an 'I agree with Bob he is really great' position just because he's on the same side of the fence.
I most certainly do not give a damn about him repeating the same tears about his former home when (as has been already said) he is at the very least partly responsible for allowing Gre to go down this road. It's almost as though he believes that by making as big a fuss as possible about it now, he can absolve himself for not doing enough when he was in a position to and when it mattered.
No dice, Janova. You dropped the ball and it's rolled on down the hill, maybe it would be best to let it go now and allow others to take up the chase. That would probably be better than running after it screaming "I do not like the course you're taking!" when by doing so you slowly begin to draw the attention of the people to the guy who dropped it in the first place.
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Boo hoo. I actually find your incessant babyish crying through rose-tinted glasses to be more annoying than anything Gre has done over the past month. We get it, you are upset and you would like for us to be too. Can you please shut up about it now?
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Beautiful poetry ... whoever said nothing good ever came out of tech raiding!? Thanks for sharing these gems.
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For something to do of course.
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People have been saying this for months and even years, and they've all been right. They've also all been ignored.
I guess when it comes to the crunch (and leaders actually get in the position to make demands of another alliance) the thrill of being in a strong position takes over and short-term personal greed thrives, whilst the self-preservation instincts and the principled stands are shoved out onto the back step.
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"Of course, it could be me."
After reading the DoE that you linked to (and in particular your responses throughout), I can state with a good degree of certainty that this is the case.
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Maybe if the big alliances weren't so rubbish, folks wouldn't be so inclined to make their own.
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Thank you for sharing your fruit-fly level analysis.
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CN is your game and you made it the success it is, so my only hope is that you continue to develop the game as YOU see fit and not to appease a moaning minority. If a few vocal whiners don't like the way you develop the game then they know where to go; no-one is forcing them to stay and play.
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Please post up the 800 word e-mail
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Wow, so just because some people don't like some of the stuff he's done, he's banned from playing the game permanently? How sad. I can understand that log dumps annoy people, but there are answers to solve this problem better than keeping him from the game completely, a) don't engage in lengthy IRC conversations with him, b) don't say anything incriminating if you must talk to him. Two easy to understand ways of stopping it from happening again. Either these people who get caught in the log-dumps are doing it willingly to create a legitimate reason to keep him on ZI, or they're just unable to learn from history and how leaders have been embarrassed in the past when they say dumb stuff to JB.All that said, to keep JB on ZI for something so minor is indicative of how petty some of these guys are and how they're quick to take offence of the smallest of slights and quick to hold a grudge over the same.You know Jonathan looking at the logs its clear to anyone reading them that rather than truly trying to remedy your situation your true intention is to elicit responses that you can use to cast IRON in a negative light on the forum when you dump the logs. And this is not the first time you have posted such logs where its clear that your intent is not further your stated goal in the IRC conversation but rather to simply play a game of IRC gotcha. Perhaps you would be best served being a little bit more honest and a little less underhanded in your methods. Because for starters your little IRC games are plainly obvious to whom ever you are attempting to con into making a damning statement. Its no surprise to me in the least that those whom you have played these little games with absolutely despise you. -
"- talking to the admin to "advertise" for your suggestion: do that yourself"
Does this actually work? If so I cannot help but lose a bit of faith in the Suggestion Forum. Players should be able to have a fair hearing for his or her ideas in the SF alone, and not have to feel that, unless they go to The Big A to constantly bug him about how their idea is deserving of implementation, they are at an immediate disadvantage in getting their suggestion recognised.
), even if you did apparently get the name of the day wrong. Is it Viridia Day or Sunset Day?
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Admin Can't Help You
in Shadow's Vault
A blog by Schattenmann in General
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"Nukes do way too much damage right now"
That is not a problem with game mechanics, but a problem with perception. Alliance leaders and members are too scared to risk losing large chunks of their precious alliances and nations. These leaders and players obviously gravitate towards one another over time, and before we know it we have massive alliances that are collectively against taking any kind of risk whatsoever. These alliances exist primarily for their own self-preservation, and they kill the game.
Please, stop trying to pass the buck for the cowardice of the players (and their unhealthy obsession for building and maintaining power-bases and statistics) onto the game developer. The whole community needs to start encouraging those who take the risks that make the game fun, and to get rid of the suffocating influence of the self-preservation stat whores.